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1 posted on 01/24/2010 11:20:52 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

I may do this....thanks for the reminder.


2 posted on 01/24/2010 11:23:01 AM PST by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: Graybeard58

Roth bump


3 posted on 01/24/2010 11:28:09 AM PST by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Graybeard58
To each his/her own, but I would strongly advise against a Roth conversion.

A lot can change between now and retirement (depending on your age), and I have no faith that Congress will keep the full tax exemption for withdrawals from Roth IRAs in place. Why convert now -- and pay income tax on the conversion -- and run the risk of getting it taxed again?

4 posted on 01/24/2010 11:30:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Graybeard58
Definitely Roth!


12 posted on 01/24/2010 12:09:56 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (When Republicans don't vote conservative, conservatives don't vote Republican.)
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To: Graybeard58

You plan just in case but I disagree with the premise! With conservatives in charge government revenue can increase by growing the economy just as has been don countless times. We need to reduce taxes and shrink the size of government!


14 posted on 01/24/2010 12:13:06 PM PST by orinoco
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I am doing the conversion this year, moving an old 401(k) and traditional IRA over to my Roth account. The bulk of my retirement savings is tax-deferred (like a regular IRA), not tax exempt (like a Roth), so I want to hedge my risk. I know that they *could* retroactively change the rules on Roths, and I know that rates *might* go down or I might be in a lower bracket when I retire. But without a Roth, I am essentially betting everything in the other direction. I need to be covered either way.

Plus the Roth lets you withdraw your principal tax-free and penalty-free whenever you want (once you have had the account for five years). And there are no mandatory distributions when you retire. And there are favorable inheritance provisions.

Also, converting this year allows you to spread the tax hit over 2011-2013 instead of having to take the whole hit in April 2011.

18 posted on 01/24/2010 12:35:39 PM PST by kalt
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Financial decision-making is the one area of life where I would love to turn it all over to some fantasy expert, one who knew all, could be trusted to the Nth, etc.

I have no feel for it, and studying it leads to a house of mirrors where nothing seems real and conclusive.


20 posted on 01/24/2010 12:49:02 PM PST by avenir
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I think the most likely scenario is that they will take away the ability to leave a Roth to your heirs tax-free, so it will be in your best interest to try to die without a Roth. However, the best strategy for me (mid-40’s) is to go with the Roth, convert as much of my traditional retirement money into Roths as I can afford, and vote for conservative candidates.

I can't control what they do to me in the future, but I can do what I can within the law to provide for myself as well as I can. For now, for me, investing retirement money in a Roth is the wisest decision. I can't go around refusing to do what is wise in the current environment because of what someone **MAY** do in the future.

22 posted on 01/24/2010 1:04:43 PM PST by Stegall Tx (Democrats: raising your taxes; cheating on theirs.)
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To: Graybeard58

IIRC, people above the income cap for a Roth are allowed to convert existing accounts, but NOT to contribute new funds after that.

I’m in the “yeah, right, you won’t decide to tax/take it later” camp myself anyway (after tell anyone who saved for retirement that they will receive no SS, since we don’t “need” it).


24 posted on 01/24/2010 1:54:02 PM PST by Darth Reardon (Im running for the US Senate for a simple reason, I want to win a Nobel Peace Prize - Rubio)
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To: Graybeard58

I can’t invest worrying about what the rules “might be” down
the road. I prefer to deal with the game as it’s being played
at present. If the rules change, so does my strategy.
No one should be without a Roth IRA gaining themselves at least 8% (mine’s up 57%) tax free right now. It’s a no brainer.


28 posted on 01/24/2010 3:33:41 PM PST by Fireone (Know the 2nd Amendment......it's all we have left.)
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