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Terror at the Mall
American Thinker ^ | January 24, 2010 | J. R. Dunn

Posted on 01/24/2010 12:14:47 PM PST by CapnJack

The shopping malls of America will be among the next major terrorist targets.

Malls make such obvious high-value targets that it's difficult to grasp why they haven't been hit up until now. Shopping malls are America's marketplaces, constantly packed with people, with uncontrolled entry, and openly vulnerable to any given form of attack. We need only consider the darkest days of the Iraqi terror campaign of 2006-2007 to grasp how the jihadis view marketplaces. Scarcely a week went by without another Iraqi marketplace bombing, with casualties largely consisting of women and children, mounting from the dozens to the hundreds. We need only add the fact that the mall in many ways symbolizes the United States to people across the world, acting as kind of American Horn of Plenty, to see the inevitability of the threat. Such attacks will come, and they will be ugly.


TOPICS: Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; jihadinamerica; mall; malls; mallsecurity; shoppingmalls; targets
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Something to think about on a Sunday afternoon.

How safe do you really feel going to the mall, grocery store, etc...

When you do go to these places, do you check out your surroundings, the people, the security aka. entrences?

Are you prepared if something does happen? Are you a CCP holder and carry your firearm with you to these places (me ... yes always ... on my hip now even sitting at home)?

Check out the comments at the link to this story ... very good comments.

1 posted on 01/24/2010 12:14:48 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: CapnJack

Thanks, my wife just left for the mall 45 min ago........


2 posted on 01/24/2010 12:15:53 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: cmsgop

Feel safe. Around here,the malls are empty. Not target rich.


3 posted on 01/24/2010 12:18:39 PM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: CapnJack
it's difficult to grasp why they haven't been hit up until now.

Someone apparently doesn't keep up with the news.

4 posted on 01/24/2010 12:19:18 PM PST by PAR35
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To: CapnJack

I think we need a SSA . We can empty our pockets BEFORE we get in the mall ..


5 posted on 01/24/2010 12:19:21 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: CapnJack

Things like this being put out are a two edged sword. On one hand people need to know the potential danger and on the other we are giving bad people ideas.

I have worried that something like that would happen during the Christmas shopping season for the last few years. I shudder to think what the impact would be if there were widespread simultaneous attacks.


6 posted on 01/24/2010 12:21:58 PM PST by flash2368
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To: CapnJack

Obama is doing everything he can to ensure that America’s shopping malls are no longer constantly packed with people.


7 posted on 01/24/2010 12:22:59 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Why buy health insurance at all if you can't be turned down for any pre-existing conditions?)
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To: CapnJack

It must be the jihadi lack of imagination that they are so ridiculously obsessed with airliners.

Hell, a suicide bomber would kill just as many airline passengers if he just got in line with passengers waiting to get through security screening.

They really are dumb when you think about it. The Beltway snipers killed ten and injured three, yet they held the entire Greater DC Metro area in a state of terror for three weeks.

How much chaos and havoc would be caused by a slew of bombs going off underground in the NYC or DC or Philly subway systems? Jerusalem-style bus bombings? How could anyone prevent it?


8 posted on 01/24/2010 12:25:26 PM PST by sinanju
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To: PAR35
Someone apparently doesn't keep up with the news.

Aside from the 2007 Westwood Mall massacre in Omaha (which wasn't Islamic terrorism) I'm hard-pressed to think of another mall shooting rampage. Have I missed something?

9 posted on 01/24/2010 12:27:47 PM PST by Drew68
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To: cmsgop

“Thanks, my wife just left for the mall 45 min ago........”

Sorry, I can’t time these post too good sometimes.

Is she packing her Lady Smith?


10 posted on 01/24/2010 12:31:33 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: CapnJack
How safe do you really feel going to the mall, grocery store, etc...

Am I worried about Jihadis? No. Not really. My situational awareness is more concerned with keeping the thugs and other criminals in the corners of my eyes.

Much greater chance of getting jacked in the parking lot than falling victim to terrorism.

11 posted on 01/24/2010 12:32:11 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
WestROADS Mall.

Just had to straighten that out. Sorry.

12 posted on 01/24/2010 12:32:24 PM PST by MountainDad
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To: CapnJack
I have said this for years. Five malls in various cities in one afternoon would shut down the economy.
13 posted on 01/24/2010 12:33:19 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: sinanju

Oh, they really have little imagination. I have been waiting and waiting for them to really start branching out, and they keep concentrating on airplanes. I have noticed more Muslims around our parts in the last year or two, so I am extra vigilant when I see them in the grocery store (almost NEVER go to the mall- about once every three years or so, if that.)


14 posted on 01/24/2010 12:35:54 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: CapnJack

lady smith dont work when your wired with explosives imbedded with ball bearings.....


15 posted on 01/24/2010 12:36:44 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: CapnJack
I;m sure the terrorists have thought this through: malls simply don't have the crowd density that transportation systems have to maximize the body count. Ease of entry also means ease of escape for shoppers. A transportation system is a moving object with people confined and unable to escape their fate.

This article is just a sensation piece. No we don't need metal detectors and ID cards to enter malls.

16 posted on 01/24/2010 12:37:02 PM PST by Procyon (The most controversial two words you can ever utter in a public space are "Jesus Christ.")
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To: CapnJack
I'm sure the terrorists have thought this through: malls simply don't have the crowd density that transportation systems have to maximize the body count. Ease of entry also means ease of escape for shoppers. A transportation system is a moving object with people confined and unable to escape their fate.

This article is just a sensation piece. No we don't need metal detectors and ID cards to enter malls.

17 posted on 01/24/2010 12:38:31 PM PST by Procyon (The most controversial two words you can ever utter in a public space are "Jesus Christ.")
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To: Drew68
Aside from the 2007 Westwood Mall massacre in Omaha (which wasn't Islamic terrorism) I'm hard-pressed to think of another mall shooting rampage.

Trolley Square, Salt Lake City, February 12, 2007.
Sulejman Talovic, Bosnian Muslim green card recipient, murders 5 American civilians in Trolley Square shopping mall and seriously wounds at least 4 others. Talovic was killed by an armed off-duty police officer.

18 posted on 01/24/2010 12:43:28 PM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Drew68
Aside from the 2007 Westwood Mall massacre in Omaha (which wasn't Islamic terrorism) I'm hard-pressed to think of another mall shooting rampage. Have I missed something?

A year or two ago in Tacoma WA.

19 posted on 01/24/2010 12:43:30 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: CapnJack

Good article, but the biggest terrorists are the democrats who have destroyed vast numbers of malls.

The economy has been intentionally ruined by Obama/Reid/Pelosi with many US shopping centers now “ghost malls” of empty stores.

The democrat party is far, far more destructive than al Queda could ever hope to be.


20 posted on 01/24/2010 12:45:10 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: conservative cat

I agree with your approach to malls: simply don’t go there.
Sometimes, once a year, I have to, though.

My USPc is always carried on such occasions.

Around home in NH I tend to be a bit less strict.

Whilst consulting in Manassas, VA I needed to attend one prior to the “illegal immigration” check that they started a couple of years back...

I was still worried, as I only had eleven rounds (FYI CCW legal in VA)and the “observer” corps was huge.

Been back since, things have gotten better!

But the .40 still goes.


21 posted on 01/24/2010 12:45:15 PM PST by benewton (Life sucks, then you die)
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To: CapnJack

Very old idea. I remember some 70s TV program (I think) where a couple of radical “liberationists” were walking through a mall tossing hand grenades into the stores as they passed.


22 posted on 01/24/2010 12:46:16 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: CapnJack
Will Mall owners be liable for any lawsuits brought by families of the victims of such an attack? A foreseeable attack and yet they did nothing ... you can hear the lawyers now.
23 posted on 01/24/2010 12:48:21 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar. ---- "OBAMA: THE GREAT MISTAKE OF 2008")
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To: CapnJack

There may have been an attempt only recently. I think there was a guy who was going to shoot up a mall in Sudbury, Massachusetts. Thankfully, the attempt was stopped. Scott Brown mentioned it in his debate with Martha Coakley.

You mean the media didn’t give this a lot of attention? Shocking. Here’s the link, including the name of the Amish suspect.

http://www.wickedlocal.com/sudbury/archive/x1136014995/Sudbury-man-charged-with-planning-terrorist-attacks


24 posted on 01/24/2010 12:53:01 PM PST by LostInBayport (2010 - The Second American Revolution. The first shot was fired 1/19/2010 -- here in Massachusetts!)
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To: CapnJack

Our enemies like to make grand statements. Think what one AR 15 did to the DC area some years back.


25 posted on 01/24/2010 12:57:28 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: CapnJack
You have nothing to fear about the malls... Gecko45 - the ultimate Mall Security Cop is on the job!
26 posted on 01/24/2010 12:59:39 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: LostInBayport

Maybe Jihadis like to shop too? But as stated in another post, we had a Bosnian Muslim go on a rampage in a mall. The real answer is letting Americans carry to defend themselves.


27 posted on 01/24/2010 12:59:42 PM PST by JMS
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To: LostInBayport

As much as America’s security apparatus is maligned, they really have been effective at heading off many potential attacks. It is very difficult to get C-4 within the US borders and it’s not something easily smuggled in. The real risk is fertilizer bombs, but the police and industry have been very diligent since the Oklahoma City bombing. If it was that easy to pull off this type of attack, the crazy mo’s would have done it already. Not saying it won’t happen, but I think it’s a lot harder for the enemy that it appears.


28 posted on 01/24/2010 1:03:57 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: Drew68

Apparently so.

Feb 2007

Police: Off-Duty Cop Saved Lives In Mall
Salt Lake City Police Say Officer Prevented Gunman Who Fatally Shot 5 From Killing More
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/13/national/main2466711.shtml


29 posted on 01/24/2010 1:04:24 PM PST by PAR35
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To: JMS; All
Maybe Jihadis like to shop too? But as stated in another post, we had a Bosnian Muslim go on a rampage in a mall. The real answer is letting Americans carry to defend themselves.

Yeah ... BUT, we got a secret weapon ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF1b1pf9DRY&feature=related

She's ... [wait for it] ... CANADIAN !!!

30 posted on 01/24/2010 1:08:36 PM PST by Lmo56
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Here’s the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF1b1pf9DRY&feature=related


31 posted on 01/24/2010 1:18:05 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: sinanju
It must be the jihadi lack of imagination that they are so ridiculously obsessed with airliners. Hell, a suicide bomber would kill just as many airline passengers if he just got in line with passengers waiting to get through security screening.

They're evil AND STUPID. Look at the crappy countries they live in - and some of them sit on top of oceans of oil - and they're still crappy.

Lowlifes. Evil, sadistic, jealous lowlifes.

32 posted on 01/24/2010 1:24:01 PM PST by GOPJ (Happy Anniversary Barack! - - - Love, Massachusetts - - - FreeperGOPsterinMA)
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To: Lmo56
Rick Roll'd just met its match.

(Now I have dueling earworms. Thanks a LOT.)

Cheers!

33 posted on 01/24/2010 1:26:04 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: sinanju

I’m surprised (and grateful) they haven’t tried anything at sporting events. Something like a NFL game seems like such an easy target.


34 posted on 01/24/2010 1:32:45 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: CapnJack
When you do go to these places, do you check out your surroundings, the people, the security aka. entrences?

Are you prepared if something does happen? Are you a CCP holder and carry your firearm with you to these places

You betcha!

I went from a compact .45 with less than 40 rounds to a competition length 9 with more than eighty rounds for just this reason.

I've got the tactical diaper bag. Now I'm looking for a kevlar stroller :)

35 posted on 01/24/2010 1:34:01 PM PST by papertyger (Representation without taxation is tyranny!)
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To: CapnJack

I’ve always thought that a stadium or arena would be a better target for terrorists than a mall.


36 posted on 01/24/2010 1:45:14 PM PST by LiberConservative
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To: Procyon
Unfortunately, they don't need to maximize the body count. Half a dozen is enough to make the national news.

Repeat it often enough simultaneously or in a short period of time, and the effect on retail businesses would be devastating.

37 posted on 01/24/2010 2:11:17 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: CapnJack

What more appropriate a target than the massive Mall of America (MOA) in Minneapolis. My son lives in Minneapolis and reports that a new mosque is being opened in Bloomington very near the MOA.


38 posted on 01/24/2010 2:37:32 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: All

ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/malls/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/mall/index


39 posted on 01/24/2010 2:49:08 PM PST by Cindy
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To: LiberConservative

Note: Malls, like stadiums (sports arenas, too) are an area of concern, too.

ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/stadiums/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/stadium/index


40 posted on 01/24/2010 2:58:16 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Drew68
Aside from the 2007 Westwood Mall massacre in Omaha (which wasn't Islamic terrorism) I'm hard-pressed to think of another mall shooting rampage. Have I missed something?

Yes. The Bosnian Muslim who shot a lot of people in a Salt Lake City mall on Valentine's Day. Altho not discussed in the MSM, it was a jihad attack. He was given a martyrs burial in Bosnia. 2007.

41 posted on 01/24/2010 3:23:11 PM PST by Red Boots
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To: CapnJack

A terrorist attack in a mall would be a boon to internet sales and the old style retail mom and pop’s. If these scum succeed at turning malls and walmarts into airports this will only push us into a different way of doing business.

My family and I no longer travel by air. Reason? The airlines and TSA have turned it into a PC mess. Since we stay in country driving is fine.


42 posted on 01/24/2010 3:25:42 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

“You have nothing to fear about the malls... Gecko45 - the ultimate Mall Security Cop is on the job!”

That was great! What a laugh that guy is.


43 posted on 01/24/2010 3:36:03 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: All

Related link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2436288/posts


44 posted on 01/24/2010 3:41:42 PM PST by Cindy
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To: The Great RJ
I worry about college campuses. I work at college: lots of people, big auditoriums full of students. The only thing worse (for terror-threat concerns) would be a big, heavily populated sports stadium. :( 4L
45 posted on 01/24/2010 4:00:54 PM PST by 4Liberty ( we have a rat problem .)
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To: liberty or death

The Administrati0n is successfully destroying the airline industry with its ‘security’ policies.

At least the Dems are good at something.
Destroying commerce.


46 posted on 01/24/2010 4:18:14 PM PST by 4Liberty ( we have a rat problem .)
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To: 4Liberty
We still have our ingenuity and Americans always find a way around blockades.

Big business, Airlines, Banks etc... better learn to recognize their enemy (DNC/American Socialist Party).

Boeing's long time lobbyist is or was Tom Dachles wife. That s#it just baffles me. As my bro who is a Boeing exec said, “without the military we would be dead”.

47 posted on 01/24/2010 4:33:25 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: grey_whiskers

Try this: Homecoming Queen’s Got a Gun- no mention of permits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8hxCpAdCJI


48 posted on 01/24/2010 4:40:24 PM PST by blu (Graffiti the world, I've seen the writing on the wall...)
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To: conservative cat

Unimaginative indeed, think of the 2007 Glasgow Airport attackers, both MD’s who slapped together a ridiculous propane-tank bomb and tried to drive their way into the terminal, unsuccessfully might I add, one of them was fatally torched.

They would have accomplished a lot more bloodshed had they simply taken two AK’s and all the loaded magazines they could carry and shot the place up. You’d think two med school graduates would be at least smart enough to know their limitations and think things through.


49 posted on 01/24/2010 4:55:16 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Question Liberal Authority

“Obama is doing everything he can to ensure that America’s shopping malls are no longer constantly packed with people.”

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking, they’re no longer the high value target they once were.


50 posted on 01/24/2010 7:36:22 PM PST by jim35 (Tea Party former Republican)
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