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Polish bishop accuses Jews of using Holocaust as propaganda
Haaretz ^ | 1-25-2010 | via Reuters

Posted on 01/25/2010 7:53:17 PM PST by smokingfrog

A leading Polish Catholic bishop caused a stir on Monday when he was quoted as saying that Jews had "expropriated" the Holocaust as a "propaganda weapon".

The comments by Bishop Tadeusz Pieronek, a former head of the Polish bishops' conference, prompted concern among Jewish leaders in both Poland and Italy after they were published on the conservative Italian Catholic website www.pontifex.roma.

Pieronek later went on Polish television to say his comments had been manipulated and he denied one phrase in which he was quoted as saying "the Holocaust as such is a Jewish invention".

He also said that he did not "authorise" the publication of the interview, which was still on the website on Monday evening.

"It is undeniable that the greatest number of dead in concentration camps were Jews but there are also Polish gypsies, Italians and Catholics on the list," he was quoted as saying.

On Wednesday some countries will mark International Holocaust Remembrance Day on the 65th anniversary of the liberation of the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Polish President Lech Kaczynski and ministers from many European countries are due to attend commemorative events at Auschwitz on Wednesday.

"It is not right to expropriate that tragedy for propaganda," Pieronek was quoted as saying, adding that memorial days should be held for the "victims of communism, for Catholics, for persecuted Christians and so on."

He continued: "But they, the Jews, enjoy good press because they have powerful financial means behind them, enormous power and the unconditional backing of the United States and this favors a certain arrogance that I find unbearable."

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: auschwitz; holocaust; propaganda
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1 posted on 01/25/2010 7:53:18 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Well, I might get flamed for this, but he has a point. 5,000,000 non-Jews died in the Holocaust and almost no one knows it. We only hear about the Jews, sometimes about Gypsies and homosexuals and that’s about it.


2 posted on 01/25/2010 7:56:13 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: smokingfrog
"and this favors a certain arrogance that I find unbearable"

Sound like the pot calling the kettle black. Lets not talk about the wholesale slaughter by the Church of indigenous people of South America and Mexico.

3 posted on 01/25/2010 7:57:41 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: smokingfrog

There are, very sadly, some Jewish folks (even in the ADL itself) who hype this already horrendous tragedy, not for the sake of revising generally agreed historical statistics, but to keep on wringing money out of parties, even some of their own.


4 posted on 01/25/2010 7:58:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: guitarplayer1953

They made the Aztec system go away.


6 posted on 01/25/2010 7:59:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: vladimir998

Yes but it was Stated and Planned policy to practice Genocide on the Jews.

Anyway this guy is an idiot.


7 posted on 01/25/2010 8:00:35 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: smokingfrog

In so far as Poland lost 6 million people (20% of its population) and only half were Jewish, I can understand soe bitterness at what they see as appropriation. However, let us not forget that the communist government of Poland actually tried to downplay Jewish deaths, perhaps as cover for their antisemitism. Meanwhile, East Germans and other communists used the Holocaust to attack all nationalism. I see no condemnation of this. I also see no condemnation of homosexuals trying to appropriate the Holocaust. Instead, he is singling out Jews and claims against Israel. The bishop does himself no favors.


8 posted on 01/25/2010 8:03:28 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: smokingfrog

why do those who hate jews find it so hard to believe that it did happen, after all they themselves would be happy to carry it out, right now


9 posted on 01/25/2010 8:06:37 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: smokingfrog
Well, the Catholic church is a big organization. There's always going to be the danger of a bad selection in the clergy. If this guy wasn't a nutcake when he was appointed(?) there's always the danger of going mental after he reached his position. The 40’s and 50’s are the danger years for male brains, so consider that as well.

You are aware that there has been quite a resurgence of antisemitism in the world of late, though we in the US haven't really had that much exposure. It seems to be far more of a European thing, or a Middle Eastern thing, or a Far Eastern thing.....Hell, it's worldwide and getting worse as far as I can tell. I really don't believe it ever went away in Europe. The Jews need every edge they can get with those odds.

10 posted on 01/25/2010 8:07:43 PM PST by Habibi ("It is vain to do with more what can be done with less." - William of Occam)
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To: Marty62
“Yes but it was Stated and Planned policy to practice Genocide on the Jews.

Anyway this guy is an idiot.”

Exactly!

11 posted on 01/25/2010 8:09:36 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Yes they burn many books and records. Yet some was saved by the very ones who burned them.
13 posted on 01/25/2010 8:11:10 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: vladimir998

Sadly, my DH had no clue that there was anyone but Jews killed in the Holocaust. He didn’t believe me that there were Catholics in the camps.


14 posted on 01/25/2010 8:13:36 PM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: guitarplayer1953

The Church didn’t slaughter Indians in Mexico or South America—Spaniards did on some occasions but not for religious reasons. The Inquisition existed in the New World but the indigenous people were not put to death by it. Most of the decline of population (very severe in some regions) was from the spread of disease. Anyway the Poles were not involved.


15 posted on 01/25/2010 8:18:11 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: guitarplayer1953

Sound like the pot calling the kettle black. Lets not talk about the wholesale slaughter by the Church of indigenous people of South America and Mexico

wait a second, I think all those armies were made up of protestants and......oh wait a second, there were no protestants then......sorry, they’re johnnie come latelys from a much later period of time...but always think they’re right...pathetic


16 posted on 01/25/2010 8:18:51 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but interested and informed)
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To: FrPR
The holocaust was pure evil. Blaming the Jews for their revulsion to it fans the same flames of hatred which caused the holocaust in the first place.

This cleric should learn from Jesus and stop hating. This is not a man of God. This same poison permeated Poland before and during WW II and led to extreme suffering and genocide. A religious leader should know better.

17 posted on 01/25/2010 8:24:39 PM PST by Armaggedon
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To: rmlew

He sounds like one of Father Rydzyk’s wackos.


18 posted on 01/25/2010 8:25:04 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: guitarplayer1953
"Lets not talk about the wholesale slaughter by the Church of indigenous people of South America and Mexico."

The Spanish military and governmental forces, not the Church, were responsible for the deaths of the indigenous peoples. The Church actually sent missionaries, many of whom suffered greatly and died.

19 posted on 01/25/2010 8:27:04 PM PST by Natural Law
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437098/posts


20 posted on 01/25/2010 8:27:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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