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Schwarzenegger asks: Why not build prisons in Mexico?
Sacramento Bee ^ | 1/26/10 | Kevin Yamamura

Posted on 01/26/2010 7:47:42 AM PST by SmithL

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Monday offered yet another way California can save on incarcerating illegal immigrants: pay to build prisons in Mexico.

Schwarzenegger said in a Sacramento Press Club speech that rather than raise taxes, the state could find money by cutting pension costs, allowing offshore oil drilling and lowering prison expenditures.

His budget calls for an $880 million infusion from the federal government to pay for housing illegal immigrant prisoners who have committed crimes in California. The governor also wants to rely more on private prison companies.

But he also gave an off-the-cuff suggestion that California send undocumented inmates to Mexico and pay to build and run new prisons there.

"We can do so much better, in the prison system alone, if we can go and take inmates – for instance, the 20,000 inmates that are illegal immigrants that are here – and get them to Mexico," Schwarzenegger said.

"We pay them to build a prison down in Mexico and then we have those undocumented immigrants be down there in the prison," he added. "Half the cost to build the prisons and half the cost to run the prisons. That is money, again, a billion dollars right there that can go into higher education. That is an example of one of the things we do that is unnecessary spending."

Schwarzenegger's idea had not been vetted. The Governor's Office was unable to answer, for instance, whether he would like to send all illegal immigrant prisoners to Mexico or just those who have Mexican citizenship.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; arnold; crimaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; mexico
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1 posted on 01/26/2010 7:47:43 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL; mkjessup; rabscuttle385; AuntB

“His budget calls for an $880 million infusion from the federal government to pay for housing illegal immigrant prisoners who have committed crimes in California.”

Send them all to John McCain. He owns 5 houses ;-)


2 posted on 01/26/2010 7:50:52 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: SmithL

Or, why don’t we send them to Guantanamo, it will be empty soon. This way if the illegals escape to Cuba, they’ll at least speak the same language. And most liberals think Cuba has better healthcare than we do, so it’s a win-win for the illegals. Their anchor babies can now keep them in Havana.


3 posted on 01/26/2010 7:50:56 AM PST by Sir Clancelot
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To: SmithL
His budget calls for an $880 million infusion from the federal government to pay for housing illegal immigrant prisoners who have committed crimes in California.

I love the smell of bailout in the morning.

4 posted on 01/26/2010 7:51:29 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: SmithL

I don’t get it. If Mexico cannot restrain its own criminal population, how will they restrain the Californian criminals (themselves, probably mostly Mexican illegals) the Arnie intends to send down there.

Did I understad that correctly?


5 posted on 01/26/2010 7:52:48 AM PST by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think. " Adolph Hitler)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Gee, Arnie...if ya tried keeping them out in the first place you wouldn’t need a PRISON anywhere!

Idiots.


6 posted on 01/26/2010 7:56:41 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: SmithL

Why not? We already have Mexico in our prisons!


7 posted on 01/26/2010 7:57:03 AM PST by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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To: SmithL

Totally disagree with sending US citizens to a foreign country for incarceration.... does not seem constitutional.

Let’s just send the illegals to Mexico, and call it even.


8 posted on 01/26/2010 7:57:51 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy

Send the illegals to the furthermost regions of SOuth America- the closer to our border, the sooner they come sneak across again.

Air Force C-130 touch-and-go practice on a desolate airstrip :out the back you go, enjoy your MRE and bottled water.Thanks for flying Crimalien Air!


9 posted on 01/26/2010 8:00:52 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: SmithL

It’s too bad that Arnie doesn’t get some real advice, like from the border patrol or NAFBPO, who reports ALL THE TIME about the problems in Mexican Jails, mostly drug cartels breaking their compadres out, riots, jail breaks...with most of the prison officials on the take, prison in Mexico will look good to these criminals because they’ll be out in no time and BACK in California!


10 posted on 01/26/2010 8:01:49 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: SmithL

How about we send all our illegals to Europe? They’ve gotta be better than the muzzies that are overtaking Europe.


11 posted on 01/26/2010 8:03:21 AM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Reddy

“Totally disagree with sending US citizens to a foreign country for incarceration.... does not seem constitutional”

Yeah, if it was just illegals maybe. But the whole thing has massive jurisdiction issues, smells of amero.


12 posted on 01/26/2010 8:03:27 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: SmithL
the state could find money by cutting pension costs, allowing offshore oil drilling and lowering prison expenditures.

It sounds like Ahhhnald was trying to be funny with all these suggestions but they all should be done. Instead of being flip about incarcerating illegals he needs to patrol the border, he has a national guard to do that and he needs to start crippling companies that hire them, cut off the benefits and stop with the bi-lingual nonsense and they'll self deport.

13 posted on 01/26/2010 8:03:55 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: umgud
They’ve gotta be better than the muzzies that are overtaking Europe.

That's a true point you make right there.
14 posted on 01/26/2010 8:04:13 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: SmithL

How about enforcing border security and let Mexico pay for the upkeep on their criminals?

There’s a tycoon richer than Bill Gates living in Mexico. It is not a poor nation.


15 posted on 01/26/2010 8:04:31 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Keep on truckin', Senator Brown.)
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To: SmithL

Why not? Half of the criminals are from Mexico.


16 posted on 01/26/2010 8:04:42 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: SmithL

This is a great idea. Prisoners cost 50K a year in CA but $50 a year in Mexico. This will get the libs worked up.


17 posted on 01/26/2010 8:08:38 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: AuntB

How about throwing the bastards out and vigorously enforcing both our borders and immigration policies, Arnie?

They would not be here if your state and all the others with “sanctuary” policies were not laying out the red carpet for them and the federal government turning a blind eye to the whole situation.

All illegal aliens should be deported with the understanding that if they ever come back they are kill on sight.


18 posted on 01/26/2010 8:08:56 AM PST by Nahanni
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
"They’ve gotta be better than the muzzies that are overtaking Europe."

They aren't, with a border as porous as Obama's skull, it would only provide a venue for terrorists to conveniently escape.

It would almost be like a halfway house for terrorists transitioning from small target operations to the allah cum all kaboom limelight.

19 posted on 01/26/2010 8:09:23 AM PST by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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To: SmithL

Well, Arnold, why not send the illegals back where they came from and enforce immigration laws. That’ll cut costs.


20 posted on 01/26/2010 8:11:55 AM PST by This Just In
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To: SmithL

Just deport the illegal aliens. It is that simply, Arnold.


21 posted on 01/26/2010 8:13:46 AM PST by Dante3
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To: SmithL
"We can do so much better, in the prison system alone, if we can go and take inmates – for instance, the 20,000 inmates that are illegal immigrants that are here – and get them to Mexico," Schwarzenegger said.

I have a better idea. STOP GIVING THEM FREE STUFF.

22 posted on 01/26/2010 8:14:16 AM PST by SandyInSeattle (Socialism is the plundering of the productive by the unaccountable)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

“They’ve gotta be better than the muzzies....”

You win the “Missing The Point” award.


23 posted on 01/26/2010 8:15:48 AM PST by This Just In
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To: SmithL
Sounds like Arnold is partaking in some of that medicinal greenery.
24 posted on 01/26/2010 8:16:17 AM PST by Force of Truth (Yes political conservatives are libertarians. They want to have their rights and eat them too.)
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To: SmithL

No documents, right back to Mexico you go.

Why are prisons (except for some holding pens) needed at all?

(Yes, I know Californication doesn’t work that way...)


25 posted on 01/26/2010 8:21:32 AM PST by PGR88
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To: This Just In

knowing a little something about Europe, I can tell you it’s actually a pretty good point, and worth some thought.


26 posted on 01/26/2010 8:25:32 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Nahanni
"How about throwing the bastards out and vigorously enforcing both our borders and immigration policies, Arnie?"

Exactly, Nahanni. While he's at it, he could stop giving millions of California tax dollars in cash to SENIOR illegal aliens. Nope, California didn't cut THAT program!

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rest of the story here:

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Senior+illegal+aliens

27 posted on 01/26/2010 8:27:51 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: SmithL

All Governor Shriver should do with regards to reforming prisons in Ca, is follow Sheriff Joe’s Footsteps. California has a Giant Desert which would make a wonderful Tent City Prison. Remember Malibu Canyon was built by PRISON INMATES ON THE CHAIN GANG. Bring that style of Punishment back and watch Crime Drop. Not to mention the amount of money Ca will Save


28 posted on 01/26/2010 8:31:43 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: chuck_the_tv_out; umgud

“They’ve gotta be better than the muzzies that are overtaking Europe.”

What difference does it make which group we are ‘taken over’ by? Americans die every day at the hands of illegal alien Mexicans. They kill a lot more of us than the ‘muzzies’ do.

What is an Army?? From the US border Patrol

http://www.usborderpatrol.com/Border_Patrol901_10.htm
Immigrant Effects, Part 10 (all 10 parts are amazing!)

The United States of America spent over forty years defending itself against a terrible foe. That foe was the Soviet Union.

The United States built 70,000 nuclear weapons of 65 different types to protect ourselves from a Soviet army of two million men. That two million man army was composed of Christians (the govenment leaders were definately not Christian) who were responsible for fine art, fine music, the first man in space and rockets to the moon.

What makes up an army? An army is made of men between the age of 15 and 35.

What comes across our border by the millions each year? Men between the ages of 15 and 35.

Afghan drug lords are now teamed with Mexican drug cartels to flood our cities with heroin. In Mexico, this Muslim Connnection to the drug cartels has brought beheadings to the streets of border towns. Many Mexican cities are now surrounded by Mexican Army troops and tanks — all to quel the violence. The city of Tijuana had its entire 3,000 man police force disarmed and replaced with Mexican Federal Troops.

What we have below are two images. One is of an enemy we fought tooth and claw for seventy years nearly bankrupting our country. The other we today invite across our border with welfare, free medical care, and more. The centers of many American cities are now controlled by MS-13 and others of the most violent gangs in America’s entire history. These gangs want to kill police and federal agents to rise in reputation among their own kind. Our prisons are now filled with a violent criminal class never seen before anywhere on earth.

In all of the 70 years of the Soviet Union — including the years of the proxy war of Vietnam.— they killed fewer Americans in total than Mexican Illegal Aliens do inside this country in a single year.


29 posted on 01/26/2010 8:32:49 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: montyspython
"They aren't, with a border as porous as Obama's skull, it would only provide a venue for terrorists to conveniently escape. "

Lol...good one.

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30 posted on 01/26/2010 8:36:14 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: DoughtyOne
Schwarzenegger asks: Why not build prisons in Mexico?

LOL

31 posted on 01/26/2010 8:38:56 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: YankeeReb
cut off the benefits and stop with the bi-lingual nonsense and they'll self deport.

Exactly! We live in a high-illegal area. It is an ex post facto sanctuarty by virtual of local (agricultural/Mexican owner) corruption. "They" talk everyday to their brothers, cousins, friends, in Oaxaca; it's not like there is any big secret or there aren't cell phones in every van - "Heyyy cousin come on up and live here in the trailer park."

The word is here, there, and everywhere, whether the word is to come on up, or to stay away.

How damn obvious is it?

Democrat vote farming and the CFR.

32 posted on 01/26/2010 8:43:50 AM PST by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: SmithL

Give the guv credit for a synapse or two starting to work....honestly if this isn’t proof of state government collusion facilitating the illegal immigrant problem, I don’t know what is.

This is a great deal for the prison industry in California
For the taxpayers..the best deal is to simply enforce the damn law!!!At the border. Before it becomes a social problem.

(therein lies the issue because when its a social problem...it justifies the parasitic burocrats’ claims on the our wallets)


33 posted on 01/26/2010 8:48:09 AM PST by mo
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To: AuntB

Hey - I couldn’t agree more. But seriously, this is how europe felt about their situation 25 years ago, and then suddenly it all got a LOT worse. With somalis & nigerians & various north africans & their hate-faced women covered in black cloth.


34 posted on 01/26/2010 8:51:04 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: SmithL
That is money, again, a billion dollars right there that can go into higher education.

Why?

Why spend any more money on college, when 75% of the "students" are either unable to do the work, or too stoned to accomplish anything?

If I was going to cut the California budget, higher "education" is where I would start.

35 posted on 01/26/2010 8:59:58 AM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Oui Vey


36 posted on 01/26/2010 9:20:30 AM PST by DoughtyOne (God, Family, Friends, Home, Town, State, the U.S., Conservatism, Free Republic & a dollar a day...)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

“knowing a little something about Europe....”

You’re assuming others don’t? The issue is not one of “muzzies” and their ideology. The issue on this thread concerns California’s belly-up budget status, and a Schwarzenegger’s ineptitude in trying to cut costs.

In case you failed to recognize the “nuances”, Hispanic’s have large families just as “muzzies” do. Hispanic’s, or should I say, illegals, are notoriously involved in the illegal drug trade, which presents a whole other set of problems for our country. Furthermore, these illegals are not beholden, or have sworn allegiance to America. Which explains why HS students will stike Old Glory and raise their colors in protest.

“I can tell you it’s actually a pretty good point....”

Perhaps on another thread, but not this one.


37 posted on 01/26/2010 9:22:03 AM PST by This Just In
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To: sickoflibs; AuntB; Nahanni

“..This will get the libs worked up...”

How about just throwing the damned libs in Mexican prisons and calling it even???


38 posted on 01/26/2010 9:26:19 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: SmithL

If they are illegals to begin with, they should be sent back either in handcuffs and released at the border or if they are convicted murderers and cartel or gang members, push ‘em out the back end of a C130 at 10000 feet over the Gulf of Mexico and call it a fish feeding program. CHutes are optional.

OOps, that was an ‘off the cuff’ remark.. ;-]


39 posted on 01/26/2010 9:31:22 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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thread from earlier
Schwarzenegger: Send illegal immigrant inmates to Mexico (off-the-cuff remark)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2437164/posts


40 posted on 01/26/2010 9:32:41 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: SmithL

Why not send our prisoners to Russia instead. Siberia already has a hefty supply of prison space that is not currently being used. We wouldn’t have to build anything. After doing time in a Siberian gulag, you will see the rate of recidivism decline considerably.


41 posted on 01/26/2010 9:34:45 AM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: SmithL

Move all liberal government to Mexico and seal the border.


42 posted on 01/26/2010 9:37:13 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Send the illegals to the furthermost regions of SOuth America...

Do you realize that Mexico and Chile and Argentina are not the same country?
43 posted on 01/26/2010 9:44:25 AM PST by kenavi (No legislation longer than the Constitution.)
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To: kenavi

YEP.

Honduras is nice,too.


44 posted on 01/26/2010 9:47:41 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


45 posted on 01/26/2010 9:53:20 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: NFHale

Ranting today? Tomorrows speech will cheer you up. Hope and Change part 2


46 posted on 01/26/2010 9:56:04 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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Send the Californicator to México with his buddy Jorgé...’moderate’ and ‘conservative’ republicans.

Never forget what they have done.


47 posted on 01/26/2010 10:00:52 AM PST by Moe Tzadik
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To: Reddy

I think that’s what Arnold said (the headline was misleading)


48 posted on 01/26/2010 10:06:54 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: SmithL

Governor looks south of the border for prisons
State could save $1 billion by building and operating prisons in Mexico to house undocumented felons
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/26/MNV11BND6M.DTL&feed=rss.news

building AND operating prisons South of the border???

operating?? huh?


49 posted on 01/26/2010 10:11:55 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: SmithL

Just build a wall around Mexico. Problem solved.


50 posted on 01/26/2010 10:15:51 AM PST by AFreeBird
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