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ACORN gotcha man among four arrested for attempting to bug Mary Landrieu's office
The Times-Picayune ^ | January 26, 2010 | David Hammer

Posted on 01/26/2010 12:41:17 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian

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To: cripplecreek

agreed

if there is evidence and cameras the I will say he is guilty but some of these things do not add up

it doesn’t take 4 people to tap a phone.
the feds were quick on the scene
there was a supposed witness, well if he is on the office and then the only way the witness could see him do this is by being in the room wiht him or having the door open.

now even the biggest idiot doesn’t tap a phone or leave a door open while they do it

this is all certainly sounds like a set up to me


151 posted on 01/26/2010 1:44:25 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Cowman
Don't ask how I know

You watch a lot of 'Leverage' and are a deep Alec Hardison fan? lol

152 posted on 01/26/2010 1:45:34 PM PST by BelegStrongbow (I'm still waiting for Dear Leader to say something that isn't a lie)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I agree with this poster at Malkin’s website:


This sounds… hinky. I’ll be waiting for more info, but seeing as how all the ACRON video DA’s were gunning to charge O’Keefe and Giles on wiretapping charges for filming my gut tells me, and this is only a guess, that they weren’t bugging the phone lines but were filming some nefarious goings-on at the Landrieu office. Note the report neither mentions having tapped the phone lines, or any wiretapping equipment on their persons. The government does not like O’Keefe. Holder doesn’t like O’Keefe. Until I hear credible facts I’m giving O’Keefe benefit of the doubt. Besides, unless he’s sniffing glue why commit a felony in front of witnesses? Why not break in after hours a la Watergate? Why not hire nerds to hack the computers? Why not steal Soros’s hidden Nazi loot? If you’re going to go, go big. Kidding aside, it sounds really… hinky. I eagerly await more info.


153 posted on 01/26/2010 1:46:11 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: Cheap_Hessian
New Orleans, huh?

I wonder if he was arrested by Steven Seagal . . .

154 posted on 01/26/2010 1:47:25 PM PST by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

so reading this then how does he do a crime then.

if these men tried to get in with out o keefe and then held at the main entrance then how are they tied to him when he is in the office and another part of the building ?

why does it take 4 people to tap a phone?

this all sounds like a big set up


155 posted on 01/26/2010 1:47:45 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: ichabod1

how about THIS?

“...federal agents that worked with FLANAGAN and BASEL in the planning, coordination, and preparation of the operation.”


156 posted on 01/26/2010 1:48:35 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: Ronbo1948
2 Biggest Questions From http://twitter.com/nikofyodo

"@allahpundit @EdMorrissey read the O'Keefe affidavit 1. Why would O'Keefe record? 2. Why no mention of any actual wiretapping equipment?"

157 posted on 01/26/2010 1:49:56 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: trumandogz

To show you how easy it is to dupe the public, they already have you convinced there were four men dressed as telephone repairmen.


158 posted on 01/26/2010 1:51:18 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: nevergore
This kid had a promising future that he just threw away.....

I suspect he's not that stupid (I could be wrong) and this is NOT the end of the story.

159 posted on 01/26/2010 1:52:09 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: manc

“if there is evidence and cameras the I will say he is guilty but some of these things do not add up

it doesn’t take 4 people to tap a phone.
the feds were quick on the scene
there was a supposed witness, well if he is on the office and then the only way the witness could see him do this is by being in the room wiht him or having the door open.

now even the biggest idiot doesn’t tap a phone or leave a door open while they do it

this is all certainly sounds like a set up to me”


Excellent points. my friend. This deal just doesn’t pass the smell test...New Orleans - most corrupt city in the USA...Democrat Senator - one of the most corrupt in the USA...corrupt FBI agents? We have seen plenty of them. A U.S. Attorney after a promotion to federal judge by sucking up to a corrupt and degenerate Attorney General? And on top of the stinking pile of manure - President Zero, the master of lies, deceptions and Marxism.


160 posted on 01/26/2010 1:53:27 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: BP2
They deserve our support, not our disdain.

NO, they deserve Justice! Innocent until proven guilty, but its funny how everyone on here is trying to dream/make/come up with why they are innocent. . He's 25 years old. He probably got a pretty big head on him after his early success and tried to push the bounds. I'll give him innocent until proven guilty, but can we at least look with open eyes and say that it doesn't look too good right now? And if/when proven guilty, can we dispense with the "Patriot" lines??? If found guilty by a jury of his peers, he broke FEDERAL laws! If he was an ACORN nut we'd want to lynch him in the town square! What if this had been Palin instead of Landreau????

161 posted on 01/26/2010 1:54:29 PM PST by BallparkBoys (Republicans spend $100,000 getting women into clothes while Democrats spend $100,000 getting women o)
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To: Ronbo1948

We are slowly getting details, but there must be a lot more to the story than is out yet.

I think there is going to be a surprise coming.


162 posted on 01/26/2010 1:54:41 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Cheap_Hessian; All

Traffick in underage kids. No problem. (ACORN vid)

Try to bug an office. Get arrested immediately. (Assuming you are a Republican)

Both are wrong, but I would argue the former is far more nefarious than the latter.


163 posted on 01/26/2010 1:55:16 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: UCANSEE2

We will see.

Jim Letten is a good prosecutor who has many notches in his belt for taking down crooked politicians.

But, in the end, their fate will be in the hands of an Orleans Parish jury made up of upstanding New Orleans citizens.


164 posted on 01/26/2010 1:56:24 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: ichabod1

none of this makes sense

you do not need 4 guys to wiretap a phone firstly
OK lets say they are.

so these two guys are held for trying to get into the building and O keefe pulls his phone out to record it.

Now why on earth would he do that but then it states he is waiting in the room but there is a witness.
witness to what .
okeefe holding a phone and wiretapping it.

even my youngest kid knows that when he does wrong he doesn’t do it in full view.

This sounds to me that they are after him and this is one bit time set up to shut him up


165 posted on 01/26/2010 1:56:27 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Taggart_D

“I suspect he’s not that stupid (I could be wrong) and this is NOT the end of the story.”


Ditto. It ain’t over until the fat lady sings.

Like I said before, the people making these charges better have their act together.

And the country is in no mood for more Leftard crap.


166 posted on 01/26/2010 1:57:48 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: LibWhacker

it is the Flanagan father-son relationship that looks the most suspicious... why in the Hell would O’Kieffe risk this association?


167 posted on 01/26/2010 1:57:48 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: dinoparty

was thinking that he was making an undercover investigative report about how lax the security is at Senate offices.. like those newspaper guys who try and sneak a gun onto a plane to prove we need more security..


168 posted on 01/26/2010 1:58:54 PM PST by outlawjake
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To: UCANSEE2

This might be a setup from O’Keefe. One of the guys arrested is the son of a Republican U.S. prosecutor???

I think someone is fixing to go down in Landrieu’s office.


169 posted on 01/26/2010 1:58:54 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Cowman

that’s true

4 guys trying to wire tap a phone

it sounds so stupid that I can’t even think anyone would go along with it

What we have 1 guy doing the tapping and what do the other 3 do , ?Watch him for training

this is just plain stupid and yet again the justice dept, Feds and the white house , with ACORN are on their roll of perverting justice and silencing those who expose them


170 posted on 01/26/2010 2:00:40 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Interesting to see how the AG will handle this case...

I mean when baton weilding Black men stand outside polling booths in Phila and intimidate voters by claiming “You are about to know what its like to be ruled by the black man”... have their case dropped.... then of course this White man that was attempting to uncover TRUTH in our political system will have his case dropped too RIGHT?


171 posted on 01/26/2010 2:01:06 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (Eric Holder and Obama are making a mockery of our justice system.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
It's a trap!


172 posted on 01/26/2010 2:02:53 PM PST by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: cynwoody; ichabod1
The sentence fails to parse without the "they".

Oh, it parses very well.

It points out that O'Keefe and DAI are being kept separate from the other two.

It points out that O'Keefe admitted to planning something.

But is it the same thing the other two have confessed to?

That is why it is worded as it was.

173 posted on 01/26/2010 2:03:17 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Bad Jack Bauer

O’Keefe should have known that from the day he exposed Obama’s ACORN, he has been under 24/7 counter-surveillance. Even if the FBI was not at point, ACORN has the money, manpower, technical resources and the motive to get the job done.

When you are a target, and O’Keefe was, there is no room for shades of gray.


174 posted on 01/26/2010 2:03:20 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First FAILED "light skinned African American [Pres-dent] with no Negro dialect..")
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To: ichabod1

I agree. This does not add up.

From the affidavit: “O’KEEFE and DAI have also admitted to federal agents that [sic] worked with FLANAGAN and BASEL in the planning, coordination, and preparation of the operation.”

Sounds serious. But what, exactly, was “the operation”? The affidavit implies a plot to wiretap. But that’s not what they’re charged with. The only language they can muster in the affidavit is intent to “interfere” with a telephone. And gaining entrance to a federal building under false pretenses. Note that the affidavit charges only that the phone had been “manipulated”—an ominous way of saying the phone was handled.

The “operation” might have been something very different than what’s being portrayed here. As you point out, it seems odd none of them would have lawyered up. So maybe they saw no need to, thinking the facts would show that what appeared to be criminal was not—perhaps naively. Each of the nefarious sounding actions in the affidavit could be the actions of someone pretending to do something, with no intent of actually doing it.

What if they’d been asked to test the security of senate offices and believed “the operation” to be sanctioned by Landrieu’s office or Homeland Security? A stretch, perhaps, but so is the idea that O’Keefe and the son of a US Attorney would be so dumb as to try to actually wiretap a senator’s office.


175 posted on 01/26/2010 2:03:51 PM PST by Eroteme
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To: Cheap_Hessian

O’Keefe would not have been recording this if he was part of a plot to wire tap a phone. This is a set up and I would not be surprised if the telephone company guys were associated with ACORN.


176 posted on 01/26/2010 2:04:50 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: BP2
The same FBI that “caught” them is run by Obama’s Justice Department

Actually it sounds like the guy who caught them was the GSA building employee who asked to see their IDs and got suspicious when they said they'd left them in their car.

177 posted on 01/26/2010 2:05:00 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Something smells. OH, IT’s New Orleans?

No wonder.


178 posted on 01/26/2010 2:05:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
From Hot Air: James O’Keefe arrested for trying to tap Mary Landrieu’s phones
179 posted on 01/26/2010 2:05:52 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: Ronbo1948
to add why the hell do you need 4 guys to tap a phone, you don't.

is one of them supposed to tap it while the other 3 watch.

none of this adds up at all, even the affidavit by the officer says they admit but it doesn't state admit what

180 posted on 01/26/2010 2:06:41 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: corkoman
RE: Ok - so there is a law about plotting a wiretap? Is plotting a crime?

Yep... it's called 'Conspiracy to commit a crime', which is a felony. I'm no lawyer, but I believe it doesn't even matter what the crime is. If you hatch a jaywalking plot with your buddies, it's a Conspiracy rap.

181 posted on 01/26/2010 2:07:29 PM PST by alancarp (Calling all states: Reduce the cost of doing business and jobs will flock to your doors.)
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To: BallparkBoys

“NO, they deserve Justice! Innocent until proven guilty, but its funny how everyone on here is trying to dream/make/come up with why they are innocent. . He’s 25 years old. He probably got a pretty big head on him after his early success and tried to push the bounds. I’ll give him innocent until proven guilty, but can we at least look with open eyes and say that it doesn’t look too good right now? And if/when proven guilty, can we dispense with the “Patriot” lines??? If found guilty by a jury of his peers, he broke FEDERAL laws! If he was an ACORN nut we’d want to lynch him in the town square! What if this had been Palin instead of Landreau????”

I disagree. Even if O’Keefe is guilty as sin, I will stand beside him. He’s a patriot on my side of the line in this civil war. In fact, even if O’Keefe becomes a convicted felon, I would consider it an honor to shake his hand. His heart and loyalty are in the right place. After all, the Senator in question is corrupt and a socialist, a traitor to the U.S. Constitution and Enemy of the American People.

Landreau should be standing before judge and jury. Maybe in the near future she will be.


182 posted on 01/26/2010 2:07:48 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: corkoman

This was her office?...in N.O.?

How is that “federal” property?

And if it is...why wasnt anyone ever convicted of federal crimes for trashing GOP rep offices?


183 posted on 01/26/2010 2:08:00 PM PST by Crim
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To: Cheap_Hessian

2. Why no mention of any actual wiretapping equipment?”

Probably a modern day PBX. Just Software tap it.

No hardware required.


184 posted on 01/26/2010 2:08:30 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: Crim
How is that “federal” property?

It's in a federal office building.

185 posted on 01/26/2010 2:09:36 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: manc

The feds were quick on the scene because - it’s a Federal building. Plus, it’s a sitting U.S. Senator’s office.

Even the FBI has to go through hoops to wiretap a Senator. As I recall, the Abscam bribe taking (Sen. Harrison “Pete” Williams, D-NJ) videos were set up on neutral ground (a yacht, hotel rooms, a house in D.C.). For national security reasons (sensitive material could be discussed), it’s not good for security that the two guys in repairman outfits got even this far.

GSA (Boggs building)- 500 Poydras Street, New Orleans, LA
FBI - 1250 Poydras Street, New Orleans, LA (about a block from the Superdome)
about a mile apart.


186 posted on 01/26/2010 2:10:02 PM PST by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2010.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Watergate all over again. Just another opportunity for the Dems to destroy the GOP.


187 posted on 01/26/2010 2:10:22 PM PST by RogerQ
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To: trumandogz

The FBI’s two chief methods for catching people are:

1) Informants

2) Setups

For instance, they go to some suspected terrorists and say they work for this company and would like to sell them some missiles.

Another possibility is that they were shadowing him, and set him up.

This is Standard Operating Procedure. The question is, whether he did anything or seemed to consent to anything that would enable them to prosecute.


188 posted on 01/26/2010 2:10:35 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ah, thanks for the info.


189 posted on 01/26/2010 2:10:52 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: alancarp

what I couldn’t tell from the William Flanagan bio is whether he was a Clinton, Bush or Obama appointee — or a civil servant who is acting in an interim capacity.

Finding out more about the father may reveal a lot about the son’s activities.


190 posted on 01/26/2010 2:11:44 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Thnx


191 posted on 01/26/2010 2:12:11 PM PST by Crim
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To: dinoparty

Well I’m reading through the comments about this and I’ll not say I agree with you. I WILL say that I’m not buying that that group was actually going to tap a senator’s phone.

Hey, anything’s possible but damn, tapping a senator’s phone is right serious, not the stuff of amateurs.

So I’d suggest that your assertion that it was likely some attempt to film activity involving phones....or maybe that group had wind that Landreau’s phones were already tapped and they were trying to get pics of this...but I’m not ready to believe they were trying to tape a senator’s phone lines.

Two guys are obviously all dressed up like telephone repair guys...they wanted to get near the phone lines of course. But why O’Keefe there, NOT dressed like a phone guy? There was no need for him to be there if the intent was to put a bug on Landreau’s phone, unless he was a distraction I suppose.

Point being, I’m not buying, for now, that they were trying to tape a senator’s phone.

And if they were, goodness me...well I just don’t know. They should leave that sort of thing up to the FBI methinks.


192 posted on 01/26/2010 2:12:45 PM PST by Fishtalk
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Didn’t some people try something like this at the Watergate Hotel in DC once? ;-)


193 posted on 01/26/2010 2:12:45 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: RogerQ

stupid and hyperbolic analogy. there is no cover-up of anything, and we are not the party in power.


194 posted on 01/26/2010 2:13:13 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: RogerQ

It’s definitely not as bad as Watergate, but I can tell you Breitbart is having a bad day.


195 posted on 01/26/2010 2:13:25 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: Eroteme

From the affidavit: “O’KEEFE and DAI have also admitted to federal agents that worked with FLANAGAN and BASEL in the planning, coordination, and preparation of the operation.

Maybe it parses like this:
... federal agents that worked with FLANAGAN and BASEL in the planning, coordination, and preparation of the operation.

IOW, this was a federal sting that went sour.


196 posted on 01/26/2010 2:15:37 PM PST by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2010.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I find it hard to believe that anyone whose face has been so publicized would atempt to do something like this. He had to know he would be recognized. Not to mention that someone who makes a name for himself by exposing illegal activity would turn around and break the law....it just doesn’t sound right.


197 posted on 01/26/2010 2:16:25 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Ronbo1948
Even if O’Keefe is guilty as sin, I will stand beside him. He’s a patriot on my side of the line in this civil war. In fact, even if O’Keefe becomes a convicted felon, I would consider it an honor to shake his hand. His heart and loyalty are in the right place. After all, the Senator in question is corrupt and a socialist, a traitor to the U.S. Constitution and Enemy of the American People. Landreau should be standing before judge and jury. Maybe in the near future she will be.

So, I'm glad to know that YOU are the final arbitor of justice here in the grand ol US of A! "His heart..is in the right place"??? Are you freakin' kidding me? So, if someone tapped Palin's lines, broke into her house, roused her family, and I dont know, killed the dog, it would be "OK" if their "heart was in the right place"? If they truly believed they were saving the country from evil? SERIOUSLY??? You cant be that thick. Laws are Laws, and without them, we quickly devolve into anarchy!

I too believe that Landreau is dirty, but you dont break the law trying to prove it. Let me simplify it for you.... THE ENDS DO NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS!

You sound like a KOS kid over here!

198 posted on 01/26/2010 2:16:32 PM PST by BallparkBoys (Republicans spend $100,000 getting women into clothes while Democrats spend $100,000 getting women o)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

An example of an individual being morally correct but legally wrong. Someone needs to “bug” every politician’s office, computers and telephones etc. I could not read all the article but he seemed somewhat clumsy. Better luck next time.


199 posted on 01/26/2010 2:17:02 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Fishtalk

Agreed... on all points.


200 posted on 01/26/2010 2:17:16 PM PST by alancarp (Calling all states: Reduce the cost of doing business and jobs will flock to your doors.)
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