Skip to comments.Tea Party groups split on backing John McCain’s Republican primary opponent
Posted on 01/27/2010 11:45:56 AM PST by Maelstorm
Sen. John McCains Republican primary opponent may have spoken at Tea Party rallies, but that doesnt mean he automatically has the support of the conservative grassroots groups in his quest to unseat the 2008 Republican presidential candidate.
Former Rep. J.D. Hayworth left his Phoenix talk radio show last week to challenge McCain for the Republican nomination to be Arizonas senator. Even though Hayworth will likely market himself as the conservative alternative in the race and draw some Tea Party supporters angry with McCain not all groups are immediately putting their full resources towards him.
On Monday, when Dick Armeys FreedomWorks released their list of more than 65 congressional races across the country with candidates they either support or want defeated, the Arizona Senate race was noticeably absent.
Matt Kibbe, president and chief executive of FreedomWorks in Washington, D.C., said the group isnt targeting McCain because there are some places where you can sort of make that difference and other places where you stay out.
John McCain has stepped up on health care and even cap and trade, which he has a very mixed history on. Hes stepped up, and I think people respect that, Kibbe said.
Lisa Miller of Alexandria, Va., who formed Tea Party WDC, said shes unsure whether Tea Party groups will back Hayworth because he waited for a fairly long time period before jumping in the race.
[McCain] would be a real challenge to overcome, but I dont think its impossible, she said of Hayworths chances.
Miller, who said shed like to see McCain challenged, said she sent Hayworth, who was a sportscaster before turning to politics, an email telling him to either declare or let someone else step forward.
We dont want to allow any incumbent that has voted for tax and spending to go unchallenged on a primary level. Not a one. And that includes not only our party, but the Democratic Party, Miller said.
Mark Meckler, national coordinator of the Tea Party Patriots, said the movement is there for Hayworth, who came into Congress with the 1994 Republican Revolution and was defeated for re-election in 2006.
Lots of people know who J.D. is, and I think he speaks to the movement, he said.
Meckler said people are challenging the establishment because they dont like the way the establishment candidates have behaved.
Among issues that Hayworth and Arizona Tea Party groups have criticized McCain for is his stance on immigration and support for a guest worker program.
John McCain, I know, is behaving in a way that a lot people who consider themselves Republicans or conservatives dont like, Meckler said. And you know, hes the maverick. And hey we like that were mavericks too. But a lot of people dont like his voting record.
Joni Dahlstrom, president of Verde Valley Republican Women Federated and state coordinator for last Aprils tea party events in Arizona, said that shes not completely convinced that Hayworth is the Tea Partys candidate of choice yet. She said Hayworth better get on it if hes serious about a challenge. Dahlstrom also said shes concerned that Hayworth is another establishment guy, so it doesnt really matter anyway.
I will not vote for or support McCain, Dahlstrom said. Ill write in my dog first.
Representatives for McCain did not immediately return a reporters request for comment.
Tapping into Tea Party resentment of McCain is something the campaign will have to do, Hayworth spokesman Jason Rose said.
There is no question when you look at intensity of the support, J.D. Hayworth has it, Senator McCain does not, he said.
In comparing Hayworth to McCain, Rose said their records on taxes are black and white, as J.D. Hayworth has been a consistent conservative on reducing taxes and Senator McCain has famously flipped-flopped.
Counting on Tea Party support, Rose said, factored into convincing Hayworth to jump into the race.
Were going to actively seek it, we hope for it, we want to earn their support, earn their passion
. and they will absolutely have a seat at the table and be critical to success in Arizona.
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Keep trying, genius. Keep the BS coming for McCain.
Like giving welfare to 13 to 30 million legalized former illegal aliens is free market. Because that is what a vote for McCain will get us. Armey is an open boarders bigot. What’s your delusion?
At least we know that McCain knows that FR exists.
Hayworth is definitely more conservative than McCain. If McCain is reelected he will trip over himself running to the other side of the aisle. Go Hayworth.
“Does it elect a true outsider? No, Hayworth voted for nearly all of Bush’s boondongle spending including the Medicare Drug Benefit which is now on track to bankrupt the country.”
All I read is about why we don’t want Mccain.
Why do we WANT Hayworth?
I say move along; there are other candidates, why take someone who has been squishy in some areas to replace someone who has been squishy in others?
Mickey Mouse could be running against McCain...he’ll still get more votes than McCain will.
He’ll be “slagging off the Republican party” no matter what happens to him.
Are chickens coming home to roost with a lot of the Bush bashing that goes on here via support of JD Hayworth for his support of President Bush for votes he cast during during President Bush’s administration?
Has anyone claimed that JD Haywoth is a “true outsider”?
Isn’t the claim only that he is a reliable conservative?
One that can be counted on to uphold the Constitution when it comes to so-called “immigration reform”?
Any group that’s supporting that traitorous bastard John McCain is not a legitimate “tea party” group. and that’s all I have to say about that
Piss on McCain.
I hope you’re right. Remember McCain said we had nothing to fear from an Obama presidency. He was supposed to be running against Obama when he said that. If I lived in Arizona I’d pick Hayworth ... or Mickey Mouse.
If this is true the Tea Party movement is best to stay out of the way.Exchanging one progressive for another is no way to build a movement. Brown's case was unusual, IMO the Tea Partiers should only back someone to make a statement.
So your willing to allow progressives to continue to frak up this country being most of us here know that McCain is a progressive...you know, despite their apparent issue differences, like Jack Squat Barry?
My question to you is this - Is the ‘Tea Party’ really split on the Hayworth/McCain primary choice? Or is this disinformation designed to split the movement, as the Dems just recently said they would be trying.
Can you provide more evidence than a blog report?
I am highly suspicious.
There are NOT any other viable candidates with a high profile who are in the run against McCain. I’ve met Deakin. Nice guy, true conservative, but he needs to earn his chops in the political arena, not come out of, literally nowhere, and run for the Senate, just because, he’s interested in politics, as his website state.
JD is eloquent, has been pounding the conservative message on his radio show, and simply put, we need new blood in the Senate. He has name recognition, otherwise McCain wouldn’t be campaigning against him specifically, even before JD officially announced his run.
These Senators get too cozy with each other and are too willing to scratch each other’s back, to the detriment of what is good for the country. For that reason alone, McCain has got to go. He puts his own self-interests and his cronies above his constituents and the nation.
It all comes down to illegal aliens for these clowns.
Hayworth has a 98% lifetime ACU rating. Is stellar on taxes, amnesty, defense, sovereignty, guns, global warming, life, etc, etc.
Who was the a**hole that played the marxist class warfare card during the deliberations over the Bush tax cuts? JD or McQueeg?
Who was the one that teamed with Bush and lindseed Graham to force feed a country 80% opposed to amnesty the most egregious amnesty ever? Hayworth or McQueeg?
Who pushed campaign finance reform which was not only unconstitutional, but a unilateral disarmament of the GOP? Hayworth or McQeeeg?
Who has campaigned now for the last 10 years on the Algorian fairy tale about global warming? Hayworth or McQueeg?
Who teamed with Joe Lieberman and others to push to getrid of “cheap handguns”? Hayworth or McQueeg?
Who has stated time an again they want to get rid of entire departments in the federal bureaucracy? Hayworth or McQueeg?
THis is just the tip of the iceberg, “my friends”
Watch the game being played. It’s called MOVE THE GOAL POSTS.
Has anyone claimed that JD Hayworth is a true outsider?
Isnt the claim only that he is a reliable conservative?
One that can be counted on to uphold the Constitution when it comes to so-called immigration reform?
“Piss on McCain.”
So tell me Jim, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...
What are you trying to say?
Let me be perfectly clear, there is no split.
Maelstrom! Stop spouting LIES!!! I gave you three links in your earlier JD bashing post that proves JD’s innocence in the Abramoff debacle...
You obviously have one mission and that’s to try and smear JD. Enough, already, seriously...WE DON’T WANT MCCAIN.
McCain can pound sand.
McCain needs to retire and most here at FR are going to help him do that, Hayworth is a conservative and I’ll support him with a donation.
I’m afraid that if Tea Party groups begin endorsing candidates, it will serve only to split Republicans and conservatives.
And who would care about that?
There are plenty of mad old men walking the streets of New York that slag off the Republican Party too. No one pays them any mind.
Plus McCain has been slagging off teh Republican Party for years, so what will be new about that?
Will this issue tear the Tea Party movement apart?
Its obvious your a McCainiac - you keep posting articles critical of JD. Either you are a plant or a huge RINO. Quit it with the JD bashing - 99% of FR cant stand McCain.
I never want to hear of Meghan McCain again, that’s for sure. I’d pay to make her a nobody.
McCain always puts on a good Republican front during an election year. It’s the 6 years after he is elected that suck.
Anybody who buys this crap is a moron. McCain sees the light just in time for his re-election campaign. If he wins he'll break his arms trying to 'reach across the aisle'.
“For that reason alone, McCain has got to go.”
Yeah, I get that. That was my point. I GET THAT. The question I asked was WHY Hayworth. Why HIM?
How in the hell is JD Hayworth “new blood” and doesn’t he have PLENTY of his own baggage?
And no one else has name recognition?
You mean like the famous Scott Brown had before he knocked off Ded Kennedy (D-HELL)?
I thought the idea was to throw all of these bums out, not recycle them.
I’m a Tea Partier and I’ll be donating to J.D. McCain has proved time and time again he’s a RINO. Maverick my @ss.
Let me be perfectly clear, I am/we are the teaparty groups.
Juan will suddenly “turn conservative” until he has been re-elected. THEN, look for the same old selling out of the party, the nation and the American people.
Not sure how Armey and Tea parties are suppposed to be synonymous? I am not necessarily endorsing Hayworth but Dick Armey and Freedomworks need to take a hike. If they represent the Tea parties then the Tea parties are nothing but an arm of the GOP.
Amen and Amen again! So it begins. “Tea Party” triangulation for liberal “R’s”! The old b-tards school of incumbents uber-alles. Some things never change.
J. D. Hayworth stands head and shoulders above that amnesty giving little mutt John McCain. I don’t know what you are talking about, but whatever it is I don’t think it makes sense.
Here in Montana Conrad Burns lost his seat because the slimey Democrats hammered him about Abramov. They never mentioned that lots of legislators, Democrats and Republican, got money from from Abramov.
There is a Democratic creep named MacDonld running right now to unseat Denny Rheberg, the Republican Congressman. MacDonald was the head of the Democratic Party when Conrad was running. After they stole the race and got John Tester elected, MacDonald claimed that Burns was going to be indicted momentarily.
He said that to me during a series of Emails we exchanged. I had pointed out to him that Conrad Burns had not even been indicted for anything. The last message he sent me stated emphatically that Burns would be indicted within the next two days, convicted and sent to jail.
A couple of days later, on about page eight in the Missoulian, it was announced that the Burns investigation found no evidence of wrong doing by Burns. He was exonerated
So I would suggest that you bring some proof that J.D. Hayworth did anything wrong before you start bad mouthing him. John McCain is a disgrace to his office. He couldn’t shine J.D. Hayworht’s shoes.
“And then he got acerbic: Cheney, he says, believes that waterboarding doesnt fall under the Geneva Conventions and that its not a form of torture. But you know, it goes back to the Spanish Inquisition.
Yesterday on Fox News, McCain reiterated that waterboarding is not a new technique, and it is certainly torture. You hear it from al Qaeda operatives that when we torture people and it becomes public, then it helps them recruit, he said.
This fool must go.
Most aptly put JR!
Maybe. But the Tea Party is unanimous in its primary goal of ousting the incumbents who created this mess! That's the entire purpose of the TEA Party!!
And RINO McCain bears s lion's share of the responsibility.
Down with McCain!! Just vote them out in 2010!!
Rebellion is brewing!!
Afraid to read this thread. Bummed out by the Palin haters who appear on every McCain post.
I did join the Hayworth group on Facebook and would vote for him if I were in Arizona.
Armey does not represent the Tea Party movement.
Exactly .......... and that's what we need!
Armey’s group is just one of thousands of like-minded groups in the Tea Party movement. He has a lot of followers but his voice is just one of millions. I am thankful he is part of us.
This should be a no-brainer for the Tea Partiers. McCain needs to go post-haste, and the sooner J.D. can knock him out, the better!