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Kill Big Bird
The Washington Times ^ | January 28, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 01/27/2010 4:32:52 PM PST by Abakumov

Public broadcasting's defenders make contradictory claims that the federal government only supplies a fraction of its funding, yet cutting it would put the organization into a death spiral. Public broadcasting receives about a 15 percent subsidy from the federal government, which is a reasonable cut to take in the public interest. Times are tough, and public broadcasting should not be given immunity from shared sacrifices.

Some of public broadcasting's programs can be competitive in the marketplace. "Sesame Street" has long been used as an icon by PBS defenders, who stridently decry any attempts to "kill Big Bird." But "Sesame Street" is also one of the most lucrative franchises to emerge from the public broadcasting system. The not-for-profit Sesame Workshop has merchandising deals for toys, games, clothes and air fresheners, among other things. Last year, Universal Studios Dubailand signed a deal to build three "Sesame Street"-themed venues at its Middle Eastern theme park.

If the Sesame Workshop became a for-profit publicly traded corporation, it could assume a large part of the burden of supporting public broadcasting, assuming its stockholders thought that was good business. In any case, we doubt that Big Bird is hurting.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: bigbird; budgetcuts; deficit; pbs

1 posted on 01/27/2010 4:32:55 PM PST by Abakumov
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2 posted on 01/27/2010 4:34:52 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Abakumov

I believe that cutting funding of NPR should be done first. PBS is much less propoganda-based than the lousy NPR State-Run-Media arm of the communists/socialists. Even C-Span is totally liberal-biased in all their commentary, IMHO.


3 posted on 01/27/2010 4:36:08 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Abakumov

They want to have it both ways.

PBS may only receive 15 percent in DIRECT federal funding. But how much do they receive indirectly through tax credits by those who contribute?

These “tax credits” are the same tax credits that the left refuses to apply to religious schools because the left does not think the government should fund private religious education.


4 posted on 01/27/2010 4:36:12 PM PST by earlJam
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To: SandRat

Cut FRONTLINE and Independent Lens!


5 posted on 01/27/2010 4:36:32 PM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: Abakumov

what other national media operation is headquartered a few blocks from the White House?


6 posted on 01/27/2010 4:37:44 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: SandRat
Back in the 70's, I went with a social worker to visit a welfare family with 15 kids ( and no man in the house). They proudly showed off their new huge color TV. When we left, I mentioned to the social worker that I thought it was interesting that they could afford a big color TV, while I (a working person) could only afford a small black and white TV.

The social worker replied "Well the kids need to see Sesame Street".

I went home and checked and you could actually receive Sesame Street on my small black and white TV.

Yes, they do use this as an excuse and it has been going on a lot of years.

7 posted on 01/27/2010 4:43:21 PM PST by w1andsodidwe (How can you tell when the President is lying? When his lips move, of course.)
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To: Abakumov

So Sesame Street can have product placement from Pepsi and McDonalds? No thanks.

Sesame Street’s purpose is to educate. Commercial television’s purpose is to create consumers. I know I’m in the minority here, but I still believe public television has a place, especially where children are involved. My kid’s going to be bombarded with enough commercial messages. There needs to be at least one port in the storm.


8 posted on 01/27/2010 4:43:52 PM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Abakumov

The CPB needs to be ended.


9 posted on 01/27/2010 4:49:31 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Ace of Spades
Sesame Street teaches youngsters how to watch TV. Teletubbies teaches toddlers how to watch TV.

The more we do this, the more we are amusing ourselves to death.

10 posted on 01/27/2010 4:51:06 PM PST by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: Abakumov
PBS is the reason that shows like Sesame Street, Barney, and Ken Burns get huge followings, allowing them to become filthy rich by marketing books, toys, games, videos, etc.

How much of those royalty payments does PBS see? Zilch.

If PBS would require a marketing profit sharing deal with their shows, they wouldn't need government help.

11 posted on 01/27/2010 4:51:52 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Ace of Spades
There needs to be at least one port in the storm.

That port used to be books and magazines. Now with supervision that port is the internet. Nobody needs TV.

12 posted on 01/27/2010 4:52:02 PM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: SandRat

That is hilarious!


13 posted on 01/27/2010 4:52:02 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: SandRat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM


14 posted on 01/27/2010 4:52:34 PM PST by Shimmer1 (When life hands you lemons, ask for tequila and salt)
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To: earlJam

It is amazing as Green Secular Progressivism is a religion.


15 posted on 01/27/2010 4:58:52 PM PST by wac3rd (Felipe Calderon supports the public option.)
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To: palmer

Wait, you’re telling me that PBS has zero partnership arrangements with the producers of Sesame Street, Barney and Thomas the Tank Engine?

That’s just criminal stupidity.

I have big problems then with using tax payer money and tax free contributions being used to float such incredibly profitable franchises. These producers don’t need to float their shows in a competitive fashion with Nick Jr, Nickelodeon, Disney, Sprout or any other number of outlets?

So PBS gives them the slot. Pays them to produce the shows. Member stations pay a per episode licensing fee on top of that and then make nothing on the franchise they created?

Wow, that’s an even bigger racket than I ever imagined it being.

I know Fred Rogers Family Communications didn’t really whore out the puppets, trolley or anything else from that show but the three I mentioned? They’re beyond whorish on how they’ve been merchandised.


16 posted on 01/27/2010 4:59:09 PM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: Ace of Spades
If you don't want them to watch commercials, turn the TV off. Very few books come with paid advertising.

If they must watch Sesame Street, buy the old ones on DVD. The first few years were a lot better than what is on it now.

17 posted on 01/27/2010 4:59:13 PM PST by wbarmy (Hard core, extremist, and right-wing is a little too mild for my tastes.)
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To: SandRat
I've never really had a problem with Big Bird.

However, for a while there when my kids were little, I did often have a compulsion to brutalize a purple dinosaur.

I love you,

you love me,

let's hang Barney from a tree!

18 posted on 01/27/2010 5:04:58 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: palmer

Okay, I agree with you partially. Point by point on that one:

Books- Agree completely. My wife and I are both voracious readers, and will do our level best to turn our boy into one as well.

Magazines- I like magazines, but can you name me one that isn’t advertiser-driven, especially one aimed at kids? The only one that used to be was MAD, and guess what? Now they run ads.

Internet- I shudder to think of the time when he discovers the internet. It’s the wild west out there. Again, lots of advertising out there, even on the kids sites. And no matter what kind of supervision you offer, anyone with half a brain will find what they want to find. You never had a kid on the playground with a stolen copy of dad’s Playboy? Trust me, it’s 10 times worse nowadays.

Television can be a great teaching tool when its used right. An episode of Mr. Rogers got me interested in writing, which is now my full-time career. I simply object with turning children into consumers before they’re at an age when they can make good decisions.


19 posted on 01/27/2010 5:06:43 PM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: 2111USMC

Ugh. Barney is the devil, and Dora and Diego are his tiny minions. It pains me to watch Dora with my kid, I feel like my brain is trying to escape from my skull. But, at least I get to point things out to him and try to teach him about what’s going on. Thank God he doesn’t like Barney.


20 posted on 01/27/2010 5:10:19 PM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Ace of Spades
It is the wild west, but the sooner he learns to deal with it the better. There are filtering tools to keep things safer (although not complete) and there are monitoring tools to figure out what went wrong. Protection is not going to work any more than with your friend's Dad's Playboy even if it is 10 times worse.

As for the TV, hook it to a DVD player or hook it to the internet and watch things together. The problem with letting any of the networks in and especially cable is that it turns into a flood of crap that you pay for (or all of us in the case of commercials). The channels that had any merit in the past (e.g. Discovery) have little and commercials more than cancel that out.

Commercial free PBS looks attractive in comparison but Mr Rogers is dead. However I have not watched kids shows for at least a decade so there could be a good hour or two left out there. Free of leftist politics seems unlikely though.

21 posted on 01/27/2010 5:20:26 PM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: 2111USMC
Barney is the Real Reason all the other Dinosaurs are dead. They took their own lives rather than have him hanging around.
22 posted on 01/27/2010 5:26:22 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Abakumov
Gotcha covered, bi-atch.

Say "Hello" To NPR!


23 posted on 01/27/2010 5:30:46 PM PST by scoobysnak71 (I'm light skinned with no negro dialect. Could you milk me?)
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To: Abakumov

PBS, NPR. The GOP doesn’t have the stones. Period.


24 posted on 01/27/2010 5:37:25 PM PST by Leisler (We are in the best of hands)
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To: Abakumov

I’ve long thought that Sesame Street was not only targeting the “lead paint chip sucking” kids, but that it never develops beyond that.

Scientifically, we know that young children are remarkably equipped to learn some subjects, such as language, very quickly. This is because for a few critical years, they have far more brain glucose than they will have for the rest of their lives. This provides their brains the energy for rapid education. But it is a narrow window of opportunity.

So wasting their time with redundant, very low intensity instruction, does them a terrible injustice. In a time when they could learn two or three other languages, they learn how to count to ten, about a hundred times, to the sound of amusing jingles. Yes, every one of them, except for the kid in the wheelchair whose eyes don’t track movement, has learned how to count to ten. Big deal. The vast majority learned how after one episode.

“But we’re doing more than educating! We’re developing their imaginations and creativity!” No. They aren’t. The children are learning how to watch TV for a half hour. So unless their career track is for security guard, this is not useful instruction.


25 posted on 01/27/2010 5:37:38 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Abakumov

That mean no Masterpiece theatre that good show I watching Return to Cranford other night that was good


26 posted on 01/27/2010 5:38:47 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: palmer

Right now I am watching Live from Lincoln Center with Joshua Bell. I discovered David Garrett after he followed a Josh Groban special on PBS.

PBS knows how to showcase good music.


27 posted on 01/27/2010 5:43:42 PM PST by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Abakumov

I could couldn’t care less if PBS had to kill Bigbird! IMHO the propaganda they feed is killer why would anyone invite that into your home?


28 posted on 01/27/2010 5:44:24 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: palmer

I agree with you — though kids should be looking to books for knowledge, not “now... then” TV, which leads to ADD.


29 posted on 01/27/2010 7:26:12 PM PST by Cronos (Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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To: mom4kittys

PBS only showcases good music when they are begging for money.

Sesame Street is WAY TOO PC. Have you watched it lately. I watched 2 episodes with my daughter. No more.


30 posted on 01/27/2010 7:28:24 PM PST by Sunbunny
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To: Sunbunny

You are right. EVERY time it is something good on PBS, there is a pledge drive. They have great programming to coincide with that.

Haven’t watched Sesame Street lately, but I have heard about it being politically correct ad nauseu.m


31 posted on 01/27/2010 7:47:20 PM PST by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: w1andsodidwe
Back in the 70's, I went with a social worker to visit a welfare family with 15 kids ( and no man in the house). They proudly showed off their new huge color TV. When we left, I mentioned to the social worker that I thought it was interesting that they could afford a big color TV, while I (a working person) could only afford a small black and white TV.

Back in 2000/2001, I delivered pizzas. Sometimes I had to go into the run down, Section 8, neighborhoods and I've seen their houses as run down as well as caught glimpses of the insides where they had holes in walls, busted cabinets, unruly kids running around and so on. I also saw they had the latest, then, big screen TV's and stereos. It would not surprise me if a few of those TV's were early HDTV models. Myself, then as well as now, I watch a 1982 Zenith, drive a 1994 car and work hard for a living. BTW, I'll call it the night, got work tomorrow and millions on welfare depend on me. B-P
32 posted on 01/27/2010 9:51:25 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you?)
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To: 2111USMC
stick a knife in his back

put a bullet in his head

Ill be so glad when barnys dead

my wife gets so pissed when i sing that out loud near kids...

33 posted on 01/27/2010 10:15:31 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Abakumov

The childrens programming seems harmless enough but it is indoctrinating the most impressionable among us. Most don’t see it right away because they don’t fully understand how Liberals, Marxists, Communists and Democrats view the world around them.


34 posted on 01/27/2010 11:49:52 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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