Report: Harsh winter a sign of climate change (More "Global Warming" insanity)

MSNBC ^ | 1/28/2010 | Juliet Eilperin and David A. Fahrenthold/WP

[VeniVidiVici]

Sooooo, what would have to happen in order to prove to these closed-minded Warmists that Global Warming *isn’t* happening?

[Young Werther]

Heck! She doesn't need Cap and Trade. The hair and suit are sufficient!

[beagleone]

surprise, surprise, surprise!

[jesseam]

This is an el-nino year which moderates the winters in the Pacific Northwest. In Montana we have had temps of -30 with snow off and on (mostly on) since the end of November. Currently it is snowing and 8 degrees in Helena. I hate to see what our winter would have been like if the el-nino was not active. It is scary to think that next year we won’t have an el-nino to “moderate” the winter.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Absolutely, positively, NOT GUILTY! What was this thread about again?

[driftless2]

So let me get this straight: all the bitterly cold winters I experiencec as a child back in the fifties and sixties were also due to climate change aka AGW? What would these lunkheads have said back then? All the twenty and thirty below temps were signs of AGW? It’s amazing how supposedly educated people can delude themselves.

[Brugmansian]

The IPCC is falling apart because, among other things, it got caught including agitprop from the National Wildlife Federation in its last report. But here the NWF is again with its crackpot science.

[Young Werther]

I’ve been told that my humor is quite cheeky BUTT that’s the way I see things.

[CowboyJay]

Sooooo, what would have to happen in order to prove to these closed-minded Warmists that Global Warming *isn’t* happening?

You can't prove a negative. The alarmists rely on that to keep the grant money rolling in.

[RipSawyer]

This whole steaming pile is astoundingly dishonest. They keep pretending that climate change and anthropogenic global warming are the same thing. They alternate between climate change and global warming to suit their case.

[HereInTheHeartland]

Cold is actually hot.
Up is down.
Good is bad.

In other words; Deconstructionism.

http://204.11.47.158/article.asp?artID=73

[palmer]

I clicked through so I could read this scientific report. I got to this part

"At the same time global warming is shifting storm tracks northward.(15)"

I looked up reference 15, and like many others it is "USGCRP 2009". The WWF basically just regurgitated a bunch of government-created crap such as how there is now an anthropogenic "fingerprint" in atmospheric water vapor. Both the USGCRAP and the WWF reports are glossies full of fuzzy polar bear pictures and model-generated hockey sticks.

I looked through the USGCRAP for the storm track data and instead found the projections from a climate model: The projections suggest that rain-producing storms that normally affect the southwest United States will shift northward, making the region drier. Further work will be required to understand the reason for the shifts in the storm patterns. ( http://www.usgcrp.gov/usgcrp/Library/ocp2009/ocp2009-hi-clivar.htm)

So, no. It is not "global warming" shifting storm tracks northward, but rather models of global warming showing that storm tracks could shift northward. Quite a difference even if you believe the models.