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Airline Passenger Says Concerns Ignored (Muslim testing airline security?)
myfoxphilly.com ^ | Jan. 27, 2010

Posted on 01/28/2010 9:43:15 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

A South Jersey woman got the scare of her life when she tried to report suspicious activity on board a plane Philadelphia International Airport.

The woman shared details of her terrifying ordeal only with Fox 29 News on Wednesday.

Now, she's wondering if it was some kind of sick joke or a test run for a terrorist.

Fox 29's Dave Schratwieser reported that 12 days after her red-eye flight from Los Angeles, the US Airways passenger is still upset over an incident on her flight, the reaction to it by the flight crew, and the lack of reaction from authorities.

"I was trembling, and I was just completely frightened," said the mother of three.

She won 't soon forget her latest US Airways flight from L.A. to Philadelphia after she encountered a passenger on board who scared the daylights out of her.

"He starts talking to himself. Then he goes, 'Detroit, huh-huh-huh,' like that, and it was really, really frightening," she said.

The woman, who asked to remain anonymous, said the passenger was Muslim and repeatedly made a reference to the latest terrorism incident in Detroit on Christmas Day with the so called "underwear bomber."

The passenger immediately told a flight attendant, who then told the pilot before the plane even left the gate.

What the flight attendant said next shocked the passenger: "'The pilot has asked me to ask you if you think we should leave the gate.' And I looked at her, and I said, 'What?'"

The woman told Fox 29 News no one from the flight crew spoke to the man or investigated further. Then, the pilot made a call to the flight attendant.

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1 posted on 01/28/2010 9:43:15 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t understand why the woman didn’t demand to get off the aircraft.


2 posted on 01/28/2010 9:47:18 AM PST by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

As a former pilot, all I can say is............just wow.


3 posted on 01/28/2010 9:49:07 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A prudent pilot would have at least talked to the guy in question. A better one would have had him removed from the flight.


4 posted on 01/28/2010 9:50:14 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Guess if the woman answered “No, don’t leave the gate” or “Sure, you can leave, but let me off first.” the pilot and crew would have taken her more seriously.


5 posted on 01/28/2010 9:52:00 AM PST by YankeeGirl
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To: Free ThinkerNY; nw_arizona_granny; Cindy; Oorang; Rushmore Rocks

Testing, testing, testing


6 posted on 01/28/2010 9:52:29 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Free ThinkerNY

1. Use your cell phone to record video/audio of the event.
2. Speak quietly to a flight attendant.
3. Speak quietly to another flight attendant.
4. Speak to other passengers. Use their eyes and ears also.
5. Smile and ask the perp, “Are you travelling to Detroit? [Smile] My Aunt Sally lives in Detroit. [Smile] Would you like to hear about my grandchildren? Are you a Lions fan?”


7 posted on 01/28/2010 9:53:20 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

From the article:

“A TSA spokesperson said that if the passenger was passed through security there was nothing to worry about.”

Huh? Are there TSA employees who still haven’t heard of the pantybomber and still don’t get it?”


8 posted on 01/28/2010 9:54:38 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"... TSA spokesperson told Fox 29 that if you have an incident like this onboard a flight you should immediately report it to a TSA customer service person at the airport when if you arrive."
9 posted on 01/28/2010 9:54:54 AM PST by norton
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To: Vigilanteman

What is going to stop the tin foil set from claiming random people look suspicious? Can’t remove every “swarthy” looking Greek, Italian, Spaniard, Egyptian, Indian, etc. because someone doesn’t like their look.

I think if she felt the person was a real threat, she would have asked to be taken off the flight. Then her vocalized concern would have had more merit. IMHO.


10 posted on 01/28/2010 9:56:11 AM PST by YankeeGirl
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The woman said US Airways told her if the man got through security, there's nothing to worry about.

A TSA spokesperson told Fox 29 that if you have an incident like this onboard a flight you should immediately report it to a TSA customer service person at the airport when you arrive.

You can't write morbid comedy any better than this. This stuff is gold.

11 posted on 01/28/2010 9:56:13 AM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Two reasons to get off that aircraft.

1. The muslim, making threats.

2. I'm not flying with any Captain that allows a passenger to make a go or no go decision. That is his ship and if he can't make that call I won't go with him.

12 posted on 01/28/2010 9:56:52 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Kakaze

I don’t think the captain was asking her to make the decision. I think he was testing the strength of her “hunch” or suspicion. If you’re not willing to miss your connection or get to your destination a little late, you must not feel so threatened. Apparently no one else concurred with her assessment of the situation or had a concern with this fellow passenger.

Sounds like she is trying to get some attention from the media.


13 posted on 01/28/2010 10:01:01 AM PST by YankeeGirl
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ve stopped flying. Don’t need the hassle.


14 posted on 01/28/2010 10:03:53 AM PST by crosshairs
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To: mbarker12474

“1. Use your cell phone to record video/audio of the event.”

Yeah, the TSA would probably go after you for recording within the POS’s permission.


15 posted on 01/28/2010 10:11:53 AM PST by Londo Molari
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To: Londo Molari

within = without


16 posted on 01/28/2010 10:13:18 AM PST by Londo Molari
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To: RightOnline
The TSA tole her .." you should immediately report it to a TSA customer service person at the airport when you arrive."

If you arrive!!!

We need to take a proactive approach to Muslim airline passangers - if there is a hint of a problem, they are off, or they continue the flight in plastic wire-ties around their ankles.

17 posted on 01/28/2010 10:17:59 AM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: YankeeGirl

What is going to stop the tin foil set from claiming random people look suspicious? The Muslim infested TSA, the Muslims in the Military, Homeland Security or political office, maybe an idiot Muslim loving President?
Pick on the victim much?


18 posted on 01/28/2010 10:23:52 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: YankeeGirl

“Can’t remove every “swarthy” looking Greek, Italian, Spaniard, Egyptian, Indian, etc. because someone doesn’t like their look.”

Heck, I don’t care what they LOOK LIKE, but I trust my gut instincts, and I don’t care WHO they are, if they make me nervous, they should be at least questioned!!! Anyone can convert to ISLAM, lots are. Profile everyone like Israel does.


19 posted on 01/28/2010 10:24:03 AM PST by yellowroses (a Yankee in Texas)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Not to worry — airline security will imrove with each terrorist-caused air disaster. We should be patient and realize that we have to follow a very shallow learning curve before expecting more acceptable results.


20 posted on 01/28/2010 10:35:41 AM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: YankeeGirl
What's to stop Islamofacists from dressing up like Catholic nuns to smuggle explosives aboard?

Is anyone advocating that Catholic nuns get to skip preboarding airport security? I think all that is being requested here is taking threats seriously and spending 60 seconds or so talking with the source to determine if it is real.

21 posted on 01/28/2010 10:53:29 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: mbarker12474
1. Use your cell phone to record video/audio of the event.
2. Speak quietly to a flight attendant.
3. Speak quietly to another flight attendant.
4. Speak to other passengers. Use their eyes and ears also.
5. Smile and ask the perp, “Are you travelling to Detroit? [Smile] My Aunt Sally lives in Detroit. [Smile] Would you like to hear about my grandchildren? Are you a Lions fan?”

6. Smile and ask the perp, "Was Muhammad a child molester?"

22 posted on 01/28/2010 10:54:50 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Free ThinkerNY

My gut feeling is all these minor incidents are just a distraction. Something big on the horizon. Hope all you freepers are stocked up on food, water, bible, amo etc. Scarey times we live in.


23 posted on 01/28/2010 10:57:44 AM PST by mouse1
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To: YankeeGirl

“Sure, you can leave, but let me off first.”
Ditto.


24 posted on 01/28/2010 3:04:45 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Velveeta

Thank you for the ping Vel.


25 posted on 01/28/2010 3:05:23 PM PST by Cindy
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To: YankeeGirl
I don’t think the captain was asking her to make the decision. I think he was testing the strength of her “hunch” or suspicion. If you’re not willing to miss your connection or get to your destination a little late, you must not feel so threatened.

You are correct. Another thing missed on this thread, the Captain should NEVER go back and deal with a suspicious passenger. This is AGAINST procedure.
26 posted on 01/28/2010 3:10:18 PM PST by Tzfat
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To: Vigilanteman
A prudent pilot would have at least talked to the guy in question. A better one would have had him removed from the flight.

Wrong. The flight crew is not to deal with suspicious passengers. It is AGAINST procedure.
27 posted on 01/28/2010 3:13:00 PM PST by Tzfat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That the pilot made the passenger into a terrorism expert is the problem here. Frankly, I’m sorry that the airline has to be the second to last line of defense. The Israelis would be assassinating these folks much prior to one of them having the opportunity to arrive at an airport.

Here in the US, they are just another potential democrat voting bloc, so here’s a pillow and some peanuts, and have a nice flight.

Having said all that, leaving ‘Go/No Go’ decisions to some slob in 18F isn’t the way to pilot an aircraft. The airline, again, made the passenger the LAST line of defense - again.

The goodwill US AIR built with Sullenberger just went out the window with Captain ‘No Go’ here in my opinion.


28 posted on 01/28/2010 4:03:05 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Velveeta

Thanks for the ping, you are correct “testing’...........


29 posted on 01/28/2010 8:59:15 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( garden/survival/cooking/storage- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2299939/posts?page=5555)
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