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Atheist Group Blasts Postal Service for Mother Teresa Stamp
FoxNews.com ^ | January 28, 2010 | Diane Macedo

Posted on 01/28/2010 11:02:50 AM PST by ColdOne

An atheist organization is blasting the U.S. Postal Service for its plan to honor Mother Teresa with a commemorative stamp, saying it violates postal regulations against honoring "individuals whose principal achievements are associated with religious undertakings."

The Freedom from Religion Foundation is urging its supporters to boycott the stamp -- and also to engage in a letter-writing campaign to spread the word about what it calls the "darker side" of Mother Teresa.

The stamp -- set to be released on Aug. 26, which would have been Mother Teresa's 100th birthday -- will recognize the 1979 Nobel Peace Prize winner for her humanitarian work, the Postal Service announced last month.

"Noted for her compassion toward the poor and suffering, Mother Teresa, a diminutive Roman Catholic nun and honorary U.S. citizen, served the sick and destitute of India and the world for nearly 50 years," the Postal Service said in a press release. "Her humility and compassion, as well as her respect for the innate worth and dignity of humankind, inspired people of all ages and backgrounds to work on behalf of the world’s poorest populations."

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1 posted on 01/28/2010 11:02:51 AM PST by ColdOne
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2 posted on 01/28/2010 11:03:53 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Screw them. Is someone holding a gun to their head, demanding they buy these particular stamps? Ridiculous.

“I know God won’t give me more than I can handle, I just wish He didn’t trust me so much!” ~ Mother Teresa

(I have a plaque stating that at work. It keeps me focused and makes me laugh when things are going nuts.)


3 posted on 01/28/2010 11:07:06 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: ColdOne

I bet these “atheist” groups would never protest a Malcolm X stamp, a Mohammed stamp, a Buddha stamp, or some other figure of another religion....

Most of these “atheists” are really just Anti-Christian.


4 posted on 01/28/2010 11:07:27 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: ColdOne; All

“The Freedom from Religion Foundation is urging its supporters to boycott the stamp — and also to engage in a letter-writing campaign to spread the word about what it calls the “darker side” of Mother Teresa.”

What is the “darker side” of Mother Teresa?


5 posted on 01/28/2010 11:10:17 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: ColdOne

Didn’t she win a Nobel Peace Prize? Surely that is enough of a secular award to refute their arguments.


6 posted on 01/28/2010 11:11:17 AM PST by married21
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To: ColdOne
“and also to engage in a letter-writing campaign to spread the word about what it calls the “darker side” of Mother Teresa. “

Horrors... A flawed human who strove for a higher ideal...

I find I have developed a strong distaste for militant atheists.

7 posted on 01/28/2010 11:11:53 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: ColdOne

The Stalinist impulse of the Left to censor, on full display.


8 posted on 01/28/2010 11:13:18 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: ColdOne

What regulation? Besides, wouldn’t it be more of a violation of the First Amendment to exclude people for anything specifically because of religious reasons? I have problems with Mother Theresa, but nobody can honestly deny the overall good she did.


9 posted on 01/28/2010 11:21:34 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
They are correct about the regulation, but probably wrong about the interpretation...

Click here to go to USPS stamp regs.
10 posted on 01/28/2010 11:31:52 AM PST by magritte ("I will give this monkey for lunch to Mr Sata,")
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To: ColdOne

Many of those honored on postage stamps could have been accused of being honored for “religious undertakings.”

Albert Schweitzer leaps to mind. I am sure there are many others.

I guess Am. Ath. thinks no nuns or priests or missionaries or anyone with a clerical collar or garb can be honored?


11 posted on 01/28/2010 11:32:02 AM PST by Persevero
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To: paterfamilias
“What is the “darker side” of Mother Teresa?”

She dared to have human failings. Can you believe it?

12 posted on 01/28/2010 11:32:46 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: magritte
Stamps or stationery items shall not be issued to honor religious institutions or individuals whose principal achievements are associated with religious undertakings or beliefs.

Thanks for the link, so there's the reg. On the surface it seems they're right, but I don't think so. Her principal achievement may have been religious to her, but it had a real, non-religious effect on the world. If you use their interpretation you'd have to eliminate stamps for the likes of Martin Luther King, Jr., and any other person who made real-world contributions based on religious conviction.

13 posted on 01/28/2010 11:44:04 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: ColdOne

So, then, a lifelong exhibition of human compassion is an achievement attainable only by religious people??

That’s the core of the argument these atheist idiots are implicitly making; that human efforts on behalf of the poor and downtrodden must necessarily emanate from religious faith.

They shame themselves.

Worse, they tip their hand to reveal their deep doubts as to their own professed atheism. The settled atheist is not threatened by postage stamps honoring great humanitarians, whether they be people of faith, or not.

Truly there are few aside from this crowd more well-deserving the epithet “damned fools”.


14 posted on 01/28/2010 11:45:37 AM PST by HKMk23 (Jesus loves me, this I know, and He IS coming; sooner than you can possibly imagine!)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Problems with Mother Theresa? Care to elaborate?


15 posted on 01/28/2010 11:45:56 AM PST by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: paterfamilias
What is the “darker side” of Mother Teresa?

Nobody's perfect. It's not like she was a saint. Oh, wait, they're going for that...

16 posted on 01/28/2010 11:46:00 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“Most of these “atheists” are really just Anti-Christian.”

That is correct. They don’t harass and demean anyone else’s religion. Just ours. That is because there are too many of us to control. They have to use the machine of government to supress us.

I hope it turns around on them tenfold.


17 posted on 01/28/2010 11:47:01 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: HKMk23

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+14:1&version=NIV


18 posted on 01/28/2010 11:51:20 AM PST by ConservaLiv
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Pingout today.


19 posted on 01/28/2010 11:56:39 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: ColdOne
boycott the stamp

Oooh! THAT will show them!!

20 posted on 01/28/2010 11:58:28 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: ColdOne
...it violates postal regulations against honoring "individuals whose principal achievements are associated with religious undertakings."

If such a regulation exists, would it not be an unconstitutional discrimination against religion?

That said, how often do we honor foreigners on our stamps? Why her? Was it part of a series of Nobel Prize winners?

21 posted on 01/28/2010 12:00:23 PM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: RoadGumby
Problems with Mother Theresa? Care to elaborate?

Wllingness to take dirty money. Discouraging nuns from getting medical training so they could better deal with the sick and dying, resulting in a standard of care lower than it could have been. Most of all her general belief that suffering is good, and having no desire to end it, only to help make it more bearable.

22 posted on 01/28/2010 12:01:30 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Wllingness to take dirty money. Discouraging nuns from getting medical training so they could better deal with the sick and dying, resulting in a standard of care lower than it could have been. Most of all her general belief that suffering is good, and having no desire to end it, only to help make it more bearable

Source?

23 posted on 01/28/2010 12:05:02 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: ColdOne

We also have Christmas stamps every year.

I am tired of these self-loathing individuals.

If they show up at my place, I have a couple of bullets and some empty land & backhow\e waiting for them. Let them go back to God and try again with another life.


24 posted on 01/28/2010 12:19:07 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ColdOne

Just like those who think Catholics shouldn’t work in Emergency Rooms.


25 posted on 01/28/2010 12:19:15 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("Personal freedom begins when you tell Old Mrs. Grundy to go to Hell." -Lazarus Long)
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To: ColdOne

Did the atheists boycott the “Eid Stamp” last September?

http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=https://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay%3FcatalogId=10001%26storeId=10052%26productId=10006182%26langId=%2D1%26parent%5Fcategory%5Frn=10000003%26top%5Fcategory=10000003%26categoryId=10000031%26top=%26currentPage=0%26sort=%26viewAll=N%26rn=CategoriesDisplay%26WT.ac=10006182


26 posted on 01/28/2010 12:21:56 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; NYer; Salvation

Good Lord, can they get any worse?


27 posted on 01/28/2010 12:24:24 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ColdOne

Time for me to go out and buy a bunch and plaster them on every piece of mail I send out.


28 posted on 01/28/2010 12:26:44 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ColdOne

What? Are these “atheists” afraid they’ll burst into flames if someone sent them a letter with a Mother Teresa stamp on it?

Must be.


29 posted on 01/28/2010 12:27:21 PM PST by GloriaJane (Pro-Choice = Pro-Death........ Pro-Life = Pro-LIFE!)
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To: Pyro7480

Wow, I thought this was well-known. You could probably start with her Wikipedia entry and go to the various sources cited. For the finances, she took money from Duvalier and Keating and praised them as good people for their donations. IIRC, she even pleaded for leniency for Keating, which would mean she knew the money she got was stolen.


30 posted on 01/28/2010 12:36:54 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: ColdOne
Let's see, there was a postage stamp honoring the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. Did they complain about that?
31 posted on 01/28/2010 12:40:10 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: GloriaJane
Are these “atheists” afraid they’ll burst into flames if someone sent them a letter with a Mother Teresa stamp on it?

That would kind of make them not atheists, wouldn't it? You have to believe in something in order to believe it can harm you.

The fact that they often act as if touching a rendering of a religious figure or entering a religious building could have some special meaning due to the religious nature leads me to believe that they are not atheists, but anti-theists (or, more specifically, anti-Christians).

32 posted on 01/28/2010 12:41:31 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Well, my reading of "achievements are associated with religious undertakings or beliefs" would be Popes, Saints, Billy Graham, The Dali Lama, Joseph Smith...people that, execept for their religious background, would be unknown...

MLK could be considered a "Civil Rights Leader", and Mother Teresa a "helper of the poor"...things they could have done regardless of religion...magritte
33 posted on 01/28/2010 12:42:43 PM PST by magritte ("I will give this monkey for lunch to Mr Sata,")
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To: antiRepublicrat; RoadGumby
Most of all her general belief that suffering is good, and having no desire to end it, only to help make it more bearable.

Matthew 16:24-25 Then Jesus said to his disciples: If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For he that will save his life, shall lose it: and he that shall lose his life for my sake, shall find it.

Where in the world could have Mother Teresa gotten a crazy idea like that?

34 posted on 01/28/2010 1:00:15 PM PST by frogjerk
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Discouraging nuns from getting medical training so they could better deal with the sick and dying, resulting in a standard of care lower than it could have been.

The source being cited is uncorroborated by someone who left the order so take if for what it is worth -

From http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:C0DfGJNB95YJ:www.answers.com/topic/mother-teresa+Discouraging+nuns+from+getting+medical+training+teresa&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

"Colette Livermore, a former Missionary of Charity, describes her reasons for leaving the order in her book Hope Endures: Leaving Mother Teresa, Losing Faith, and Searching for Meaning. Livermore found what she called Mother Theresa's "theology of suffering" to be flawed, despite being a good and courageous person. Though Mother Theresa instructed her followers on the importance of spreading the Gospel through actions rather than theological lessons, Livermore could not reconcile this with some of the practices of the organization. Examples she gives include unnecessarily refusing to help the needy when they approached the nuns at the wrong time according to the prescribed schedule, discouraging nuns from seeking medical training to deal with the illnesses they encountered (with the justification that God empowers the weak and ignorant), and imposition of "unjust" punishments, such as being transferred away from friends. Livermore says that the Missionaries of Charity "infantilized" its nuns by prohibiting the reading of secular books and newspapers, and emphasizing obedience over independent thinking and problem-solving.[49]"

35 posted on 01/28/2010 1:14:12 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk
Where in the world could have Mother Teresa gotten a crazy idea like that?

I don't know. It's kind of a twisted masochistic theology. Jesus wasn't talking about suffering for suffering's sake, he was saying to endure any necessary suffering in following him because the reward will be greater than the suffering.

36 posted on 01/28/2010 1:14:30 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: magritte
MLK could be considered a "Civil Rights Leader", and Mother Teresa a "helper of the poor"...things they could have done regardless of religion...magritte

Exactly what I was thinking.

37 posted on 01/28/2010 1:16:18 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat; Pyro7480
Wow, I thought this was well-known. You could probably start with her Wikipedia entry and go to the various sources cited. For the finances, she took money from Duvalier and Keating and praised them as good people for their donations. IIRC, she even pleaded for leniency for Keating, which would mean she knew the money she got was stolen.

So you are a big Christopher Hitchens fan especially his book the "The Missionary Position"?

38 posted on 01/28/2010 1:19:27 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: antiRepublicrat; RoadGumby
I don't know. It's kind of a twisted masochistic theology. Jesus wasn't talking about suffering for suffering's sake, he was saying to endure any necessary suffering in following him because the reward will be greater than the suffering.

You are ignorant with regards to the Catholic teachings and understandings on suffering so I forgive you for your error.

Also, as go along with Hitchens on slandering a holy woman with regards to her dealings with Keating you might want to skim the Hitchens book where it states in her letter that Mother Teresa didn't know anything about Keatings dealings. She was writing a letter to the judge just to tell the judge about Keatings dealings with the poor, nothing else. There is no pleading for clemency or anything like that in it. One kind letter to a judge.

Hitchens is one sick puppy that should be avoided like the plague.

39 posted on 01/28/2010 1:29:06 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: metmom

Here goes:

If we take the word “religion” to be mean a belief system and world view determined by said belief system*, there are two religions in the world. Everyone, regardless of label, falls into one category or another**.

1. Those who not only believe in God, but accept and try to follow the rules set out in the scriptures of the world; which are, in the main, largely in agreement over the basic rules of morality, behavior and values for human society. For instance, prohibitions of sex before and outside of marriage, against homosexual acts, against murder, theft, false witness, blasphemy, and so on. And finer concepts as avoiding lust, greed, anger, envy, covetousness, and so on.

Another aspect of this meaning of religion is the world view that this mortal world is not our eternal home, but a sort of testing ground; with the real home in the eternal Kingdom of God, and that true happiness can be found only in relationship with the Supreme Godhead.

2. The other world view and belief system is based on atheism, hedonism and moral relativity - which is based on hypocrisy, since what it really means is that only their view point is valid.

This world view is not just espoused by outright atheists*** but many who claim to believe in “God” - but the “God” they supposedly worship does not have the actual qualities of God. For instance, various denominations who allow homosexuals to be priests and ministers, consider abortion perfectly okay, and so on. Up to the Metropolitan Community “Church” that is focused solely on homosexuality, or Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity Church which is merely a racist and marxist political group using sort of Christian sounding slogans occasionally.

Religion #2 views this world as all in all, and seeks to find perfection in this world; perfection in their eyes meaning the most enjoyment possible (in their view) before the worms take over. “Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow you die”. There is no God in control (other than a superficial label pinned on), you make your own rules, each sees his own desires and whims as the guiding light in life, or the whims of others who have similar values and world view.

The really bad news is that Religion #2 is completely intolerant of any of the viewpoints, morality or world view of religion #1 having any sway in public life. They pretend that there is “neutral ground” for public life, and that Religion #1 should not have influence over public policy, in supposed deference to “secularism” or “neutrality”.

But, the problem is that there are only two world views, or two religions. If theists cannot influence public life, than atheism and hedonism are the standard. There can only be one standard, there is no neutral ground.

* Of course, there are other meanings of the word “religion” but leaving that for another day.

** I am also leaving Islam aside for now as that is a whole ‘nother category in a sense. Or a subset.

*** An interesting point is that there atheists who are content to live in a world peopled by group #1 with the morals and values of group #1. Such atheists are another subset. :-)


40 posted on 01/28/2010 1:47:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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So only atheists and hedonists on stamps. I will go out and buy a bunch of Mother Theresa stamps and use them exclusively.

41 posted on 01/28/2010 1:49:01 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: frogjerk
You are ignorant with regards to the Catholic teachings and understandings on suffering

The idea that avoidable suffering is noble is sick, and applying it to others besides yourself is evil to the core. Take a hammer. Smash your hand. Enjoy your avoidable suffering.

One kind letter to a judge.

In defense of a crook. How about her praise of Papa Doc?

You are very sensitive about your idols, aren't you? No criticism allowed? You are very like Hitchens. He doesn't think she could have done any good because of the bad she did. You can't accept that there's any bad because you have this perfectly good view of her. Neither of you realize that people are flawed, and can do both good and bad things.

42 posted on 01/28/2010 1:54:31 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: ColdOne

These people are big fat gigantic turds.


43 posted on 01/28/2010 1:55:25 PM PST by vpintheak (How can love of God, Family and Country make me an extremist?)
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To: antiRepublicrat
The SCOTUS would consider this regulation to be patent viewpoint discrimination. If someone is beloved and worthy of our nation's admiration, the post office cannot forbid it simply because the basis for the admiration is a life of faith.

Reverend King has a stamp. The work that made him beloved was 100% bible-based as a man of the cloth.

And I would guess that Jesus and the Blessed Virgin Mary, who are featured each year on a Christmas stamp from famous Catholic images, would be prohibited by this regulation (and must really make these folks mad as hell).


44 posted on 01/28/2010 2:39:03 PM PST by Notwithstanding (Wer glaubt ist nie allein. Who believes is never alone.)
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To: GloriaJane

45 posted on 01/28/2010 3:07:57 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: All
She is a Nobel Peace Prize Winner.

There are very few of them.

Albert Einstein was Jewish. Should we neglect him in history books because he is Jewish?

By the same token, Martin Luther King, Jr., was a Protestant Minister

Atheists should be adamnant in their opposition to MLK, JR., if they are to be consistent...

46 posted on 01/28/2010 4:36:58 PM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Most of these “atheists” are really just Anti-Christian.

Exactly.

And they sure seem to have a lot of time on their hands.

47 posted on 01/28/2010 4:38:44 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: antiRepublicrat

Sounds like perhaps you have been reading alot of the drivel ABOUT Mother Teresa, and very little BY Mother Teresa. If you read her own writings, her speeches, or the principles of the Missionaries of Charity which she founded (both religous and lay orders), you will see your simplistic explanation is a bunch of bunk promoted by one atheist writer in particular who’s on a hate spree. Don’t fall for it.

If any of us could stand for one week to live and do what Mother Teresa did, truly alleviating suffering and not just on a physical plane, then maybe you would have a tiny insight into why she is already considered a saint by many.

Next time you’re bathing a leper’s sores, then you can criticize Mother Teresa.


48 posted on 01/28/2010 9:31:05 PM PST by baa39
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To: frogjerk

Some people can’t cut it in the military either. They are honorably discharged if they are too physically or psychologically weak to do the demanding work. It’s not for everyone.

Mother Teresa left one religious order to found an even stricter one. Ms. Livermore obviously chose the wrong order, or perhaps did not have a religious calling at all, so she left. Fine, I sure as heck couldn’t live as a Missionary of Charity for one day! No vanilla lattes is one big problem. Does that mean there’s something wrong with Mother Teresa or the thousands who have followed in her footsteps? No, it just means the rest of us don’t measure up. That’s why she’s a “saint” in almost anyone’s eyes, probably even most atheist’s and agnostic’s.


49 posted on 01/28/2010 9:39:08 PM PST by baa39
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To: Notwithstanding
Yahoo search for Mother Teresa stamp:

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50 posted on 01/28/2010 9:58:59 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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