Log Cabin Republicans Responds to State of the Union Address (demand legalizing homosex in military)

Log Cabin Republicans ^ | Jan 27, 2010 | Charles T. Moran

[merry10]

No use arguing with you. So I’m done. However, you could not be more wrong. Gay men have served in the military as well as gay women. Do you know any gay people? Well, if you did you would know that it’s a lot more than sexual desire. Even my very right wing, NRA duck hunting, deer hunting friends here in central PA know that.

I hope you continue to ruminate about what gays do, because you seem preoccupied, as well as incorrect, about it.

[manc]

I’ve served you have not, I know what it is like you do not.
I know what most of the military say about this and it is the same as what I say.

do I know homosexuals, yes I do and they also know where I stand.

It’s more than sexual desire, what rubbish, it is all about sexual desire and what turns them on. Homosexuals say it isn’;t all about sex because they try to reason their pervertedness to the world and sadly some fools for it or they fall for the old “I just want to be left alone and be happy loving someone”
I love my dog and family but I have no feelings to have sex with them

I bet you would argue that homosexuals should marry , adopt kids too wouldn’t you.?
Well this is a conservative website and Jim Robinson has said on more than one occasion that this site is not here to push pro homosexuals views

there is no privacy in the military do you understand that?
Having homosexuals serve openly might be fine for homosexuals who want their homo parties and homo parades but it brings nothing , nada, zilch to the military.

You come on here and on the homosexuals threads and then state I am wrong knowing full well this is a conservative website.
ARF

what the hell does a duck hunter from PA know about how the military feels having homosexuals serve openly in the military when they have not served. it’s a bit like a woman telling marines that they’re wrong about this because that woman knows a homosexual
it’s plain stupid.

Yes I will keep stating my opposition to homosexuals, because it is they who need to get their heads sorted out and understand how nature works.
Their sick agenda will never be accepted and telling them that they should do what they want from child birth doesn’t help them.

Even another woman on here who is in Iraq right now has posted on this thread that she would never get into a sleeping bag with a lesbian and if you had served you would know that in training we have to do that .
Think her words were it’s disgusting.

[manc]

neither do I and it’s amazing how anyone could.

homo pride, I mean WTH is that about.
they tell us that it is their own private business and then state how they want to be open in the military.
well that now is telling me what they like sexually.

Look how they act at places like the folsom fair, it is just plain sick and we’ll still have folks defending this pervert agenda

[POWERSBOOTHEFAN]

It’s disgusting.What they are doing spreads disease and it’s nothing to be proud of.I’m straight but you won’t see me running around in the streets declaring my sexuality.The gays in the military need to keep it to themselves;no one cares.I know I would not want another woman looking at me that way.Yecch.If G-d wanted me to be w/a woman, He’d have made me a man.

[manc]

what you said is exactly what my wife says.

It repulses her to think of any woman looking at her in a sexual way.
I’m the same with men, it truly is disgusting and our bodies are designed in a way to be having sex with the other sex not the same sex.

[merry10]

Yes, I do think gay people should marry, if they want. What do you care what others do? The divorce rate in this country is SKY HIGH, and who are we to preach morals to others.

I am not here to push my views. I am here simply stating them, and you continue to argue. If you want me banned from the site, tell the administrator. What’s your issue - you can’t take back talk from a woman? YOu need to whine to a moderator? What kind of military guy are you, then?

Now you’re slamming duck hunters from PA? And you really think that gay people are incapable (since you have such a vast knowledge of them) of being professional soldiers, sailors, airmen, and bluesuiters?

Being gay is not going to affect a person’s ability to perform their assigned duties. The soldiers and sailors I know who are straight don’t care about a person’s sexual orientation...they just want to know, does this guy have my back.

You won’t agree with me, and I won’t agree with you, but you keep trying to point out that I have not served, and I wonder why that makes a difference, since I have not written anything about my professional life.

I found the attached interesting. But, it would probably frighten you, so i suggest you not read it.

http://gaylife.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=gaylife&cdn=people&tm=7&gps=360_352_1259_825&f=10&su=p284.9.336.ip_&tt=15&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.sldn.org/templates/index.html

[manc]

the point is you have never served so therefore you have no idea how the military work and what many of us think about homosexuals

of course you’re here to push your pro homosexual views as I am pushing my anti homosexuals agenda views..
I’m sure Jim Robinson has mentioned a few times about your kind of pro homo views being spewed on here.

all because you have a homosexual in your family you want them to marry, adopt, be open in the military.
you’re on the wrong website, this is a conservative one , a site where we believe in family values not some sick twisted perverted agenda.
It doesn’t help telling these mentally sick people while they grow up that they’re normal and they have nothing to be ashamed, of course they do and they need to hear it.

Now that might not the be message you like and like I said maybe it is time for you to find a site which is more intuned with your pro homosexual views.

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[massmike]

Center for Military Readiness
— Policy Analysis —
January 2010

Consequences of the Proposed
New “LGBT Law” for the Military

http://cmrlink.org/CMRDocuments/CMRPolicyAnalysis(WEB)-January2010.pdf

[manc]

of course it will affect the militarys job.

I’ll give you an example, in the Arctic where we were we had to share sleeping bags, you think any guy wants to get into a sleeping bag with a homosexual ?
Then if that pervert makes a pass am I supposed to ignore it? Hell no

It’s all about sex to them and then it doesn’t help when we have a bunch of whiny liberal parents telling their homo that they’re normal, they’re not, it’s all about sexual pleasure to them.

They can’t even keep it in their pants, go to a dog park, public bathroom, a park, rest stop etc.

Many areas have had to close down because of these perverts and now you say they should marry, adopt, and be open in the military.

what happens when the chaplain does nto want to marry them?
what happens when a guy gets into a fight with a open homo and if you had served you would know that there is always fights?
What happens if an officer has sex with a private and then lets that private not do his duties out of being a favorite?
What happens when they want homo pride parades on base or homo parties?
What happens when we have to share a shower?

Now you might not have a problem with sharing a shower with a homo but we do who are in or who have just left.

What happens when we tell a homo joke, do we go on charges now, are we supposed to be sensitive to their feelings when we have just killed a couple of guys

you have no clue what so ever how the military works and it seems you do not have much a clue about homosexuals and their twisted sickness
It seems to me that you have fallen for the usual crap they spout like I just want to be equal, I just want to be accepted, I just want to be happy I just want to be married and have a normal life.

Course you don’t see the homo;s with their friends when you’re not about, places like folsom fair, are you saying that is normal too?

What pro’s does it bring to the military to have homo’s serving openly?
name 3 pros.

I and others could easily give you lots of cons but you name 3

[manc]

thanks Mike

BTW My MIL up there voted for republican for the first time and is sick of obama, course this don’t ask has her now pissed off with him and because of it she is getting rid of the D on her voting card

seems plugging away with the truth pays off

[Maelstorm]

For those of you who don’t understand what the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell will mean it will mean the following:

The military will face even more pressure to promote homosexuals and homosexuality in the ranks.

You will see pressure to allow effeminate gay behavior among military men and anyone who objects will become the “problem”.

Cases of unwanted advances will become more common and more often covered up so the military will not appear biased.

You will see the military used as a device to further push the idea that homosexual behavior is normal.

We let this policy fall and we will have lost yet another battle in the war of the left to reshape the culture into a prurient deviant design.

It isn’t enough that your son or daughter go to war but instead they will have to face indoctrination and have it shouted, beat, and reeducated into them about how normal homosexuality is and if they don’t except it they will be expelled and punished. Is that what you want?

This isn’t about what a few hyper egotistical sexual deviants want. It is about what kind of world and what kind of military do you want? We are not Britian and we are not Europe nor should we aspire to be like them. We are America, the land of the free, the home of the brave or is that depraved?

[GranTorino]

In the old English navy, Sodomy was a hanging offense. Couldn't you imagine a boat load of queers trying to fight the Spanish Armada?

[Elsie]

No, I don’t care what they do.

SOMEone does!!!

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Genesis 13:13
 Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21 
  Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house. 

They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." 

Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

 

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape.....

[POWERSBOOTHEFAN]

It’s been said that the majority of women are bisexual.Not this woman.I fully believe that it’s a choice to be gay.I used to think that people were born gay but there’s no evidence to support that.Something that gets me is the fact that lesbians hate men,but some like to dress and act like men.

[manc]

My wife says the same thing. It repulses her to even think a woman is looking at her in a sexual way.

what’s bizarre is that we have a homosexual woman hating to be with men but most of them go out with a homosexual woman looking like a man and then when they have sex one has to wear a strap on and pretend they’re a man.

That is no way normal and for parents who might have homosexuals then telling their kids it is alright is not helping that kid.
Of course the homosexual will not act the same way in front of their mother as they do with their homosexuals friends;. Instead the homosexual will tell their mother how they want to be accepted, how they want to be happy and love someone bla bla

Course the mother takes it all in and not think what her daughter or son is really doing.

[POWERSBOOTHEFAN]

I used to be OK with homosexuality,but I now see it as a disease-spreading perversion. It goes against nature and G-d.What troubles me is that the gays,or sodomites,as they should be called,don’t care that they are spreading these filthy diseases to others.It’s like you stated earlier;there’s a reason for the differences in our bodies.Men and women complete each other.It has always been this way,no matter what anyone else says.This whole “I love who I want to love” BS turns my stomach and makes me want to vomit. Yes,Heteros spread diseases but not at such an alarming rate.Besides,we Heteros can always have natural sex,whereas the sodomites cannot.

[POWERSBOOTHEFAN]

BTW,which branch were you in and when did you serve?

[manc]

ah same as me

never never bothered about homosexuality until that day I saw them on a parade.

I then started to hear about how they want this or that in our schools, work places, in our faces etc.
Basically I started to hear about their agenda but the more they shoved their agenda the more I stood up and heard them .
Over months I started to take more and more notice and say enough is enough and now I speak out against it.
If we’re at a party etc then I don’t go all PC anymore I speak out and let it be known that the homosexual agenda has to be stopped.

The more these homosexuals push their agenda the more they are pissing people off and yet, one would think that they would say enough is enough and now we’ll go on with our lives like we used to and just forget about this agenda, but no they instead see people pissed off and so they push their agenda even more.

it doesn’t make sense

[manc]

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