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Statement from James O'Keefe
BigGovernment.com ^ | Jan 29, 2010 | James O'Keefe

Posted on 01/29/2010 8:29:50 AM PST by BAW

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To: dead
The report says that they asked where the telephone closet was, then went there and tried to get in, but were denied access. Then arrested... Of course, they need to establish that they intended to tamper with the phone lines, which is very much up in the air.

I'm taking my cue from the recent voter registration fraud incidents.

I swear I recall reading some excuses that it didn't matter if someone REGISTERED fraudulently unless they INTENDED (or maybe even ACTUALLY) voted under that registration.

Using that same logic, it doesn't matter if O'Keefe and company ASKED where the phone closet was, if they didn't intend to tamper with it, then there was no crime in just asking where it was.

-PJ

101 posted on 01/29/2010 12:39:27 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Amen! The commie liberals stick up for thier own, no matter what. We eat our own, no matter what.......


102 posted on 01/29/2010 12:40:00 PM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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To: trumandogz

While you were somewhat level-headed in your posts at the time this story broke, you also made many comments that indicated you believe O’Keefe was guilty and would be going to prison.

In other words, you didn’t give him the benefit of the doubt, and trusted the early reports from the MSM (which we all know lies).


Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:09:33 PM · 245 of 435
trumandogz to muawiyah

That is not going to be enough to get this trial moved. And I’m guessing that the Feds may have a little bit more cash to spend on the trial.

Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:56:05 PM · 35 of 36
trumandogz to truthandlife

O’Keefe may be on trial in October and many surprises may come out of that trial.

Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:00:39 PM · 298 of 435
trumandogz to muawiyah

Typically, when one is arrested by the FBI, they are put on trial unless they accept a plea.

And with four suspects, each looking at hard time, I am sure one of them will sing like a bird.

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:25:47 AM · 101 of 113
trumandogz to txhurl
Depends on the jury.. if there IS one..... ha ha.

Oh yes, there will be an Orleans Parish jury made-up the fine citizens of New Orleans.

And in the trial of Mr. O’Keefe, you can expect at least one of his co-conspirators to testify against him.

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:00:30 AM · 332 of 435
trumandogz to musicman

While I wish we could, we cannot put ACORN in prison however, we can put in prison those who are convicted of attempted to bug the telephone of a federal elected official.

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:36:14 AM · 339 of 435
trumandogz to BP2

Perhaps that is possible, but it has nothing to do with the case at hand which has to do with private citizens allegedly attempting to wiretap telephone owned by the federal government.


There are just a few of your posts where you assumed their guilt. In fairness, some of your posts you also indicated it was an ‘alleged’ crime.


103 posted on 01/29/2010 12:40:47 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: HereInTheHeartland

If you are allowed in a building, I see no specific law against entering a closet. Was it a locked closet?


104 posted on 01/29/2010 12:43:07 PM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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They don’t call me knewshound for nuttin...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2439221/posts?page=17#17


105 posted on 01/29/2010 12:43:48 PM PST by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd. E. Clampus Vitus)
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To: NMEwithin
I am proud of this guy and all that work with him! And howabout the girl that worked with him on the ACORN sting? She may be the most beautiful girl I have ever seen! Not to mention a wonderful sweet girl.
106 posted on 01/29/2010 12:47:57 PM PST by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: knews_hound

I read that post at the time, and I have just one difference of opinion.

I don’t think O’Keefe will be given the recorded video evidence back.


107 posted on 01/29/2010 12:50:47 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: dead

They ought not plead to anything.


108 posted on 01/29/2010 12:51:41 PM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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To: Quickgun

“If you are allowed in a building, I see no specific law against entering a closet. Was it a locked closet?”

I don’t know specifics on the building in question. In my locality, our Senators are housed in the Federal Building (most cities have a similar building)with tight post 911 security.

In our case, that building has tight security; and bad things could happen if people are snooping around the infrastructure part due to all the federal agencies inside.
But I probably shouldn’t be commenting since I don’t know if that’s the case in this story.


109 posted on 01/29/2010 12:57:48 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: UCANSEE2
"While you were somewhat level-headed in your posts at the time this story broke, you also made many comments that indicated you believe O’Keefe was guilty and would be going to prison." In all of you citations, you have not been able to cite where I stated that they were absolutely guilty of a crime.

BTW-Do you have difficulty with every Freeper who in the past has questioned the innocence of those that have been arrested for a crime?

Since, I am sure if you were to look, there would be thousands of posts throughout the years where posters have suggested that a suspect in guilty of a crime, even though the trial had not taken place.

110 posted on 01/29/2010 1:03:24 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: GeronL
Al Sharpton was arrested. Didn’t seem to hurt his popularity with the left media.

The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. actually spent some time in jail, it didn't seem to hurt his popularity or credibility, either.

111 posted on 01/29/2010 1:03:52 PM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: UCANSEE2
"While you were somewhat level-headed in your posts at the time this story broke, you also made many comments that indicated you believe O’Keefe was guilty and would be going to prison."

In all of you citations, you have not been able to cite where I stated that they were absolutely guilty of a crime. BTW-Do you have difficulty with every Freeper who in the past has questioned the innocence of those that have been arrested for a crime?

Since, I am sure if you were to look, there would be thousands of posts throughout the years where posters have suggested that a suspect in guilty of a crime, even though the trial had not taken place.

112 posted on 01/29/2010 1:06:02 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Agreed. Please note that in that thread I noted the vagueness of the charges.


113 posted on 01/29/2010 1:07:14 PM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: UCANSEE2

I didn’t think of that angle, but the seizure of potentially damaging video could be the real reason behind the arrest of THE NEW ORLEANS FOUR by the FBI.

If this is true, O’Keefe and Company are off the hook because if the matter goes to trial, the video will have to be released.


114 posted on 01/29/2010 1:18:28 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
hey, I apologize wholeheartedly to all FReepers and to James O'Keefe if I can reach him with an email, for my first comment on that thread..... which certainly gave far too much credence to the affidavit from the FBI agent.

"[although I did say right at the start " post #269 **IF** the affidavit from the FBI agent is roughly accurate...." (emphasis added now).... that's a bigger "IF" than I realized in the first moments....]

However, from the first instant I gave no credence whatsoever to the Mediascum -- my initial failing was (I think) to believe that an FBI agent, even a lib, would not be stooopid enough to make some of the statements made in that affidavit if they would easily be proved so irrelevant and/or ridiculous. Now it certainly appears much more likely that it is that FBI agent and any other US officials involved who went "over the top" since there is nothing emerging so far that seems to be evidence of a crime.

now that FBI agent, and other officials on the scence, certainly deserve much scrutiny for allowing this incident to escalate beyond what may have been reasonable...... release the video!!

115 posted on 01/29/2010 1:21:38 PM PST by Enchante (Obamanation: are you really concerned about "foreign" campaign donations? Let's see all of yours!!)
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To: All

while accepting some chastisement for my first comment on that thread, I also want to note that (maybe) I hit early on an interesting and plausible possible explanation of the situation (which now appears to be the direction in which all of this is heading, whether or not it was all originally anticipated or intended by O’Keefe and friends):


To: muawiyah

hey, this may be wishful thinking on my part, but let’s consider this scenario:

first let’s postulate that O’Keefe may well be a very sensible and clever guy who would know better than to get himself caught up in what he appears to be caught up in

then let’s imagine why he and the others might be doing what they reportedly did

could it be that they did strictly stay on the right side or the law, or at least nothing beyond a misdemeanor, but that this is all a kind of “trojan horse” publicity stunt to get the Demagogues and MSM to focus upon these guys non-stop??

i.e., what if there is no “listening device” and/or it’s a fake device that could not actually work for any nefarious purpose?

what if they meant to be “caught” knowing (possibly) that there was no real case against them, but that the Demagogues and MSM would quickly over-play the hand, making these guys famous, and then it could boomerang against all who ignored or downplayed the ACORN stings?

not saying I can account for all details since (1) there is a lot we don’t know, and (2) I don’t claim to know what’s going to happen next in legal, political, and media terms..... but if this guy is as clever as he was for the ACORN stings, maybe this is all a set-up AGAINST the Demagogues and MSM..... ssssshhhh, if this is so let’s not tell anyone outside of FR..... we need the media and Demagogues to greatly over-react..... let Holder and even Obambi make statements etc. ooooh, this could be fun

296 posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:54:10 PM by Enchante


116 posted on 01/29/2010 1:26:48 PM PST by Enchante (Obamanation: are you really concerned about "foreign" campaign donations? Let's see all of yours!!)
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To: UCANSEE2

BTW, WHERE IS THE INDICTMENT against O’Keefe & Company? This is Day Five and the U.S. Attorney can’t figure out what charges to bring before a Grand Jury? I’m no legal eagle, but it looks like to me if the Feds thought they had a strong case they would have filed an Indictment by now. I’m bginning to think the point of this exercise was to seize the video.


117 posted on 01/29/2010 1:28:01 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: Ronbo1948
BTW, WHERE IS THE INDICTMENT against O’Keefe & Company? This is Day Five and the U.S. Attorney can’t figure out what charges to bring before a Grand Jury?

He's either tooooooo busy looking for some convoluted, obscure statute to hang this on, or he's not going to do a thing because he knows like everyone else does it's all nonsense.

118 posted on 01/29/2010 1:44:05 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Joe 6-pack

“If this had been Michael Moore dropping in on a Republican’s office to see why his constituent’s were unable to reach him, all would be forgiven by now, and the Republican Senator would be the object of invective and ridicule for the heavy handed suppression of Moore’s First Amendment rights.”

Absolutely.


119 posted on 01/29/2010 2:00:26 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: sauropod

“Was he or was he not arrested?”

Yes. Because they were impersonating, they probably were ‘trespassing’ or some other fine points of the law. But nothing too serious, it appears.


120 posted on 01/29/2010 2:01:46 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: dead
The contention that they sought access to the telephone closet was not an invention of the "state run media", it was in the official police report. It was a contention of Witness 1 to the police.

The Feds are going to need more than 1 witness.

121 posted on 01/29/2010 2:12:57 PM PST by Stentor ("Never underestimate the transcendental power of spite and revenge!")
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To: lsucat; Roux; Pikachu_Dad; WFTR; chemicalman; abb; Liberty911; CajunConservative; LSUfan; ...

Pelican State ping

It’s interesting how Landrieu is unusually silent about the matter.


122 posted on 01/29/2010 2:21:23 PM PST by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: who knows what evil?; BAW

....with humble pie for dessert.


123 posted on 01/29/2010 2:23:59 PM PST by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: UCANSEE2

I think that with Brietbart behind him, he may at least stand a chance.

I fear you may be correct however.

Cheers,

knewshound


124 posted on 01/29/2010 3:01:44 PM PST by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd. E. Clampus Vitus)
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To: sauropod

he was arrested...


125 posted on 01/29/2010 3:02:38 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“going into the equipment closets would be a no no.”

As would be impersonating a phone repair person. But how serious are these offenses? Are they felonies?

Seems like the more serious charges were dreamed up by the libRATS.


126 posted on 01/29/2010 3:10:17 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: ruralvoter

“I am not excusing James’ tactics here, but I remain convinced that it is possible the feds would have pulled in all of his audio and video under one pretense or another.”

This is a little bit 24ish, but too bad he didn’t send the digital videos to another phone - before the took that phone away.


127 posted on 01/29/2010 3:16:03 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: dead

“If it’s not true, its not the mainstream media’s fabrication, but either the arresting officer or the witness.”

Well - that means they only had 2 or 3 major errors/lies in their stories vs. 3 or 4. And oh by the way, there is no qualitative difference between a RAT’s Senate staff (of which the witness is one) and the RAT press. So whether the RAT staff made up a charge or the RAT press, falacious charges were FLYING these last 72 hours from the RATs.

We’ll see if the Feds have any case whatsoever against these guys.


128 posted on 01/29/2010 3:22:59 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: DouglasKC

“It’s just scary how the Democrats have the media as the willing lapdog accomplices when it comes to spreading lies, smears and disinformation. A democrat can say any lie no matter how outrageous and the media will dutifully print it.”

If it was painfully clear before it certainly is now.

dimocRAT party = RAT MSM propoganda press

They are just different departments of the same party.


129 posted on 01/29/2010 3:25:39 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: GeronL

“Al Sharpton was arrested. Didn’t seem to hurt his popularity with the left media.”

In fact it probably enhanced it...but conservatives are treated like dirt, with incredible couble standards. Sickening.


130 posted on 01/29/2010 3:27:38 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: VRWCmember

LOL! Yes!! Free the New Orleans 4!


131 posted on 01/29/2010 3:29:08 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: SeattleBruce

One would think they could have used a better method.

How about setting up a table on the street outside of her office (with a phone available); and invite people to try and call her office?


132 posted on 01/29/2010 3:29:45 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: BAW
I'll be thrilled if he can back up his claim that he was just doing a report on the problems that some people have had calling her office. He's done a great service to our cause in showing the corruption of the ACORN fanatics.

Strangely enough, I've never had a problem getting Mary Landrieu's office to answer my calls. I'm rarely on the positive side of any probability, but they have been willing to talk to me.

133 posted on 01/29/2010 3:52:21 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Red Steel

I just got back from a Lefty message board and they already have O’Keefe tried, convicted and prison raped in the anus. One Leftard said he must be guilty because all Irish Catholics are Democrats. LOL!


134 posted on 01/29/2010 4:08:32 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: Ronbo1948

Dims are idiots. Hannity said O’Keefe will be on his show the next coming Monday, Feb 1.


135 posted on 01/29/2010 4:43:32 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: BAW

btt


136 posted on 01/29/2010 5:30:28 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: thulldud

I remember reading your post. Nuts; it was a great story, though. I agree, Free Republic and the research skills of the members really is amazing and remarkably fast.


137 posted on 01/29/2010 5:51:03 PM PST by TrueFact (Liberty Rules!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; altair; stephenjohnbanker; little jeremiah; ~Kim4VRWC's~; voteNRA; Admiral_Zeon; ...

O’keefe update.


138 posted on 01/29/2010 6:23:22 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: BAW
It has been amazing to witness the journalistic malpractice committed by many of the organizations covering this story. MSNBC falsely claimed that I violated a non-existent “gag order.” The Associated Press incorrectly reported that I “broke in” to an office which is open to the public. The Washington Post has now had to print corrections in two stories on me. And these are just a few examples of inaccurate and false reporting.

James speaks well...

139 posted on 01/29/2010 7:36:29 PM PST by GOPJ (Once the field is level, a global Marxist state is just a few hundred million dead malcontents away.)
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To: BAW
As I said the other day:
“if the police took the tape I guarantee it will be lost.”
140 posted on 01/29/2010 8:17:19 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
If you really want to know why we lose, that thread is a perfect example.

Those kinds of threads are still going on. Palin endorses McCain threads, for example.

141 posted on 01/29/2010 8:28:13 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: TrueFact

Agreed. Salt cannot be taken by the grain when dealing with the MSM but by the truckload.


142 posted on 01/30/2010 6:56:27 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (Episode 2010: A NEW HOPE)
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To: Ronbo1948
I’m bginning to think the point of this exercise was to seize the video.

What other choice did Landrieu have?

Why did the footage from videocams surrounding the Oklahoma City Building disappear?

143 posted on 01/30/2010 12:04:18 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: trumandogz

A poster said your posts all seemed to have an assumption that O’Keefe was already guilty. I listed those I thought applied. I even gave you credit for ‘not guilty until proven’.

Your comments, though, were along the lines of the assumption that O’Keefe was going to jail. You weren’t giving him the benefit of the doubt. And you don’t have to.

I never said that you stated ‘they were absolutely guilty’.

AND, I don’t consider you in the same category as the others mentioned in that first post about this subject. I only listed your comments, because I wanted to point out that while others might come to the conclusion you were proclaiming guilty without a trial, you really weren’t.

Isn’t that what the lines I posted of yours, show?


144 posted on 01/30/2010 12:14:30 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: trumandogz
BTW-Do you have difficulty with every Freeper who in the past has questioned the innocence of those that have been arrested for a crime?

Nope. Depends on exactly what they say, and who they are condemning.

Since, I am sure if you were to look, there would be thousands of posts throughout the years where posters have suggested that a suspect in guilty of a crime, even though the trial had not taken place.

Yep. Been involved in many of them. Have had some very good conversations with those opposed to my take on the issue, and hopefully profited by what I learned from the debate.

145 posted on 01/30/2010 12:19:44 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Ronbo1948
If this is true, O’Keefe and Company are off the hook because if the matter goes to trial, the video will have to be released.

I think the plan is to hold the charges over O'Keefe's head as a way of controlling any further releases he has on ACORN, and to prevent him from any further 'snooping'.

As for the video, unless O'Keefe had it being uploaded to a remote device (such as the guy in the van), then it is already 'gone'. Disappeared, erased, oops we dropped it and it broke 'gone'.

146 posted on 01/30/2010 12:23:02 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

Then it looks like the opposition has a wolf by the ears; it’s not much fun holding him, but they dare not turn him loose.

Also, it knows how much afraid they are of O’Keefe.


147 posted on 01/30/2010 2:01:02 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: rrstar96

She’s probably waiting for another “show me the money” moment to decide which way she’ll jump.


148 posted on 01/31/2010 11:01:20 PM PST by Atchafalaya (Atchafalaya Basin; when you're there , thats the best)
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To: Kansas58
However, to be falsely accused can lead to great things, if you don’t back down!

I hope this young man continues to look into Mary Landrieu’s lack of public concern. As a constituent of Ms. Landrieus, I have tried for months to phone her office on the health care issue. I emailed and received a long blanket email in return explaining Ms. Landrieu’s stand on the issue. I called Washington and stayed on the phone until I finally got a human being from her office and expressed my concerns. Her local offices are impossible to contact. She knows her constituents are against health care but she continues on her path - arrogance is her attitude. I look forward to the day we will finally be rid of her.

149 posted on 02/01/2010 6:18:56 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: BAW

BTTT


150 posted on 02/12/2010 8:28:21 AM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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