Skip to comments.Statement from James O'Keefe
Posted on 01/29/2010 8:29:50 AM PST by BAW
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This is what Rush said they were doing yesterday.
Gee, I hope his video of this doesn’t somehow end up altered, ruined...etc.
The posts are there. NO excuse to hide or say, but, but, but...
Another one - Trumandogz. There is commonality here...I'll let FR to figure it out.
The posts are there. NO excuse to hide or say, but, but, but...
Another one - Trumandogz. There is commonality here...I'll let FR to figure it out.
Can we write the same indictment for Obama?
0bama’s Ministry of Hope is trying to take down James O’Keefe.
But this is only going to bring more attention to James’ cause.
When the dust settles, the involvement of 0bama’s political operation in this ‘bust’ will be exposed.
My mistake. Thank you for pointing out my error.
Now does the report say that “he” went into the closet? Or was it the other people who did?
For some reason FR allows certain trolls to remain, for years now.
True, most did. But too many didn't. And that doesn't include the trolls and the agitator who was most vocal in that thread.
hear, HEAR!! (that means I agree)
The most obvious troll on this site since John HK/Strategerist.
Yeah, I was shocked by the behavior of the GUILTY! crowd.
I have really enjoyed FR for exactly this reason. Bacon said that "writing makes an exact man", and on FR one has the opportunity to write and get immediate corrective feedback.
There was the time I posted a comment about General "Black Jack" Pershing, containing a story about his handling of rebels in the Philippines around a hundred years ago. Couldn't remember where I had seen it originally, but the gist of the thing was that he had executed 5 out of 6 Muslim partisans and buried them in pig offal; then let the sixth one go home to report, thus putting a damper on the Muslim insurgency.
Well, not an hour had passed before I got questions about the source of that story, so I went looking for online references and found that, lo and behold, there were none. No source from that time makes reference to Pershing having done any such thing. He was in the islands at the time, but that is the only point of contact this story has with reality.
Shut my mouth properly, that one did. Wouldn't have happened nearly as fast or effectively without FR.
When did the FBI get involved to arrest him? Immediately? Cops showed up first?
Did someone in the office call the FBI first? Or was the FBI already.....?
I dunno. If the office was on federal property it would make sense.
Discovery will be interesting.
At the very least, we’re going to find out if the phones were or were not working! ;^)
I never saw any time line to when the investigating authorities showed up. Since it was a federal building that the FBI probably has an office there, So I would surmise in a very timely manner when Senator Landrieu or her cronies pitched a B.
The report is not entirely clear, but if they were working in concert to mess with the phone lines, it really doesn't matter which ones tried to get into the phone closet.
Of course, they need to establish that they intended to tamper with the phone lines, which is very much up in the air. I hope it's all as O'Keefe's statement says, but if they did try to get into the phone closet, his version of events becomes unworkable.
I can't wait for his videotape of events to come out. It will eventually. It may show the political workers in Landrieu's office getting all melodramatic and nuts over nothing, just to get the four guys in trouble. I'm suspecting that in the end, they'll have to plead to some minor "trespassing under false pretenses" type of charge, and pay a fine.
I have not followed the story closely, but her her office is in a Federal Building the FBI would be involved in the investigation.
I suspect they will be charged with trespassing or something similar assuming anyone presses charges.
That pertains in a court of law.
Discounting the question, "How did they get by security?", my next question would be, " They were told where to access the phone lines, and then denied access?"
That sounds like a set up to me.
The senator said her phones were jammed, not broken. To me, jammed means busy as heck, like the phones were jammed with calls. Does anyone know more about what exactly she said?
I believe they were by the receptionist, which would be a public area. The two "phone guys" asked where the phone closet was, and were told it was on a different floor. When they went there, they were asked for official identification and denied entrance. Then arrested.
No, he didn’t. They asked the receptionist in Landrieu’s office about it and that person sent them to the GSA office in the building where access to such places is controlled.
They did not leave the common areas of the building. There’s no intent of crime here. A ruse to find evidence that Landrieu was ignoring the public by not answering her phone.
I remember when you posted that. A few years back now. I never looked it up and was probably onto the next thread without seeing anyone questioning the story. The story always stayed in my mind. You had to have heard it from someplace? Second hand? Thats not the sort of story people there would have necessarily wanted in print.
According to the charging document, they asked about the phone ‘closet’, and were directed to the GSA office in the building that controls access to places like that. They were not given access, and did not go there.
"trumandogz" is a dissembling troll.
He's a flack apologist for Truman and FDR, a common snark mouth on birth certificate investigation threads and now it seems he's salivating at the prospect of having James O'Keefe locked up in the federal pen.
Check out this earlier FR Thread:
ACORN gotcha man among four arrested for attempting to bug Mary Landrieu's office Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:06:57 PM · 66 of 358
trumandogz to TornadoAlley3
"Joseph Basel, Robert Flanagan, James OKeefe, and Stan Dai should cinsider [sic.] themselves lucky that they will be going to Federal Prison and not The Farm in Angola."
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Here the FBI agent’s Affidavit:
Pretty sure it was a printed medium where I saw it, and it would have been great if I could have remembered which one. Although I don't remember there being any footnotes. It was probably just the writer quoting something that somebody thought he saw in a disremembered book. Really, the same thing that I was doing when I posted that.
How legends are made, eh? At least, those which go well beyond fact....
For Immediate Release
January 26, 2010 United States Attorney’s Office
Eastern District of Louisiana
Contact: (504) 680-3000
Four Men Arrested for Entering Government Property Under False Pretenses for the Purpose of Committing a Felony
NEW ORLEANSJOSEPH BASEL, age 24; ROBERT FLANAGAN, age 24; JAMES OKEEFE, age 25; and STAN DAI, age 24, were charged in a criminal complaint with entering federal property under false pretenses for the purpose of committing a felony, announced the United States Attorneys Office for the Eastern District of Louisiana.
According to the complaint, which was unsealed earlier today, the arrest of FLANAGAN, BASEL, OKEEFE, and DAI took place after BASEL and OKEEFE attempted to gain access to the New Orleans office of United States Senator Mary Landrieu on January 25, 2010, while posing as telephone repairmen. According to the complaint, FLANAGAN and BASEL were each dressed in blue denim pants, blue work shirts, light green fluorescent vests, tool belts, and construction-style hard hats when they entered the Hale Boggs Federal Building, located at 500 Poydras Street, New Orleans, Louisiana 70130. Once in the building, FLANAGAN and BASEL sought access to the offices of Senator Landrieu. OKEEFE was already present in the office, holding a cellular phone so as to record FLANAGAN and BASEL. Once inside Senator Landrieus reception area, FLANAGAN and BASEL told a member of Senator Landrieus staff that they were telephone repairmen, and they requested access to the main telephone at the reception desk. FLANAGAN and BASEL then manipulated the telephone system. FLANAGAN and BASEL next requested access to the telephone closet because they needed to perform work on the main telephone system. They were directed to the main office of the United States General Services Administration, also inside the Hale Boggs Federal Building, where they again represented themselves to be employees of the telephone company and stated that they needed to perform repair work in the telephone closet. Both FLANAGAN and BASEL stated that they had left their credentials in their vehicle. In addition, the complaint alleges that OKEEFE and DAI assisted FLANAGAN and BASEL in the planning, coordination, and preparation of the operation. The men were apprehended by the United States Marshals Service soon thereafter.
If convicted, FLANAGAN, BASEL, OKEEFE, and DAI each face a maximum term of 10 years in prison, a fine of $250,000, and three (3) years of supervised release following any term of imprisonment.
The United States Attorneys Office reiterated that the complaint is merely a charge and that the guilt of the defendant must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
The investigation is being conducted by Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Deputy Marshals with the United States Marshals Service. The case is being prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorney Jordan Ginsberg.
Blackjack Pershing might not have threatened to have a muslim buried in a pigskin, but Gary Cooper threatened to do it in the 1939 movie The Real Glory.
According to ESPN, he went in to the wiring closet because Mike Leach thought he was faking a concussion.
Someone HAS to expose these legislooters..the MSM ain’t gonna!
Oh, STOP it!
In a PUBLIC building, opening an unlocked door marked "AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY" wouldn't even get a Federal Employee working in that building fired; they'd get a meeting with their Supervisor and MAYBE a letter in their personnel file.
Unless you're a hard-core, brainwashed union stiff who recognized the non-existent boundaries between "Communications Union" territory and "Non-union People" territory, you grasp the fact that going into a communications equipment room, though it may be an error in judgment, does not constitute a crime of any degree in any jurisdiction in any State.
Certainly, the building Facility Manager will take umbrage at your temerity, and will likely see that you are professionally detained until the nature of your doings can be ascertained, but unless you are on PRIVATE property, your entry into the equipment closet doesn't even rise to the level of trespassing, much less anything outright criminal.
Interestingly, you are citing the same ‘experts’ on Constitutional law who endlessly defend BHO’s ‘natural born’ status. I.e., the ‘afterbirthers.’
Having diffciulty cutting and pasting but They detail the story as being unproven and unlikely to have been the work of Pershing but could have benn the work of Col. Alexander Rodgers.
(I won’t go off topic on this thread any more.)
I've been wondering that as well. Typically when someone says their phones are jammed they mean that the phones are very busy with incoming calls, not that they're broken. I'd like to know exactly what Sen Landrieu said about the phones.
Regardless of who gets charged with what - this was a STUPID idea!
A complaint that has no merit. What they entered was a public building using the public elevator and walked public hallways, and then entered a public Senator's lobby. The purpose was to see if Landrieu was ignoring her public phone calls.
then manipulated the telephone system. FLANAGAN and BASEL
How did they manipulate the phone system? They picked up the receptionist's phone and then did what?
Once in the building, FLANAGAN and BASEL sought access to the offices of Senator Landrieu.
emphases - they asked. What offices?
They were directed to the main office of the United States General Services Administration, also inside the Hale Boggs Federal Building, where they again represented themselves to be employees of the telephone company and stated that they needed to perform repair work in the telephone closet.
Lying is not a crime. If that was true, everyone in the Democrat party would be jail. Did they go? They were challenge for their credential and were denied access. Furthermore, common telephone closets are not restricted areas.
the complaint alleges that OKEEFE and DAI assisted FLANAGAN and BASEL in the planning, coordination, and preparation of the operation.
The complainer alleges? LoL! How would Landrieu know? And that was what? What were they planning, coordinating and preparing - to do what? You don't say anything about that. There was no intent of crime Landrieu as O'Keefe says above.
What you did say in the FBI's affidavit and not here is that you had "probable cause to believe" To believe who? Senator Landrieu who had a sissy fit.
“Well, lets hope he isnt telling us how morally correct he is from a Federal prison...”
I don’t think O’Keefe and Company have even been indicted yet...but assuming the worse and they are found guilty of a felony, I would think they’d get off with probation and a fine, after all these guys are clean cut and without a rap sheet.
I had to have seen it,i don’t recall it,but it was mentioned in one of the articles i read looking this up. The good old non PC days in movies.
Yes, the comment you cite was regarding O’Keefe’s legal difficulty in the State of Louisiana and not his actions against ACORN.
Now, could you please cite where I rushed to judgment to condemn James O’Keefe vs. ACORN?
As of now, the charges are merely a way for Landrieu to keep the videotape evidence from getting into the Media.
IMHO, the FBI will hold the ‘charges’ over O’Keefe’s head as a way of ensuring the videos are not put on the internet, or anywhere else.
I believe the issue of a possible crime will be down to intent. The FBI says the intent was
under false pretenses for the purpose of committing a felony
the reporter says the intent was to discover what the Senator was doing with the phone calls.
Can you imagine how great our country could be if we arrested everyone that entered a Senator's office under false pretenses? No more lobbyists, no more backroom deals, etc.
That's no felony to discover if Landrieu was ignoring the public phone calls to her office. No evidence of bugging - none. They wanted to document their ignorance of the phone system by video. They have no concrete evidence to the contrary of what O'Keefe has stated.
All theatrics by Landrieu and PMSNBC.