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Indians, Lobbyists and Arizona Politics...OH MY!
TheTownCrier ^ | Jan. 29, 2010 | TheTownCrier

Posted on 01/29/2010 10:05:26 AM PST by AuntB

The scene is the Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut . The year 2000. The congressman has $100 chips stacked high, having a grand time at the crap table. He likes to gamble and isn't afraid to show some temper when he loses. Along for the ride are his campaign manager and one of the two biggest lobbyist handing out campaign money from various Indian tribes who was also a 20 year friend of the legislator.

By now we've all heard about the money J.D. Hayworth received from an Indian tribe by way of disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who was one of the two big boys in Indian tribe money lobbying.

Pot, meet Kettle....

However, it was not J.D. Hayworth, nor Jack Abramoff at the crap table. It was Senator John McCain, campaign manager and Indian lobbyist in his own right, Rick Davis, along with Scott Reed, now the one remaining big time lobbyist handling the tribes and their money.

National Review wrote:

“That would be this New York Times story, describing McCain playing the craps table with Rick Davis and Scott Reed. Davis is a longtime McCain friend and associate, currently his campaign manager, who runs a lobbying firm that represented Indian tribes with casino interests. Reed also worked as a lobbyist for Indian tribes, but he was also Bob Dole's campaign manager in 1996, where McCain is a top surrogate”

Another article further describes the scene.

" McCain was betting at a casino he oversaw as a member of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee, and he was doing so with the lobbyist who represents that casino.

The visit had been arranged by the lobbyist, Scott Reed, who works for the Mashantucket Pequots, a tribe that has contributed heavily to McCain's campaigns and built Foxwoods into the world's second-largest casino. Joining them was Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager. Their night of good fortune epitomized not just McCain's affection for gambling, but also the close relationship he has built with the gambling industry and its lobbyists during his 25-year career in Congress.

As a two-time chairman of the Indian Affairs Committee, McCain has done more than any other member of Congress to shape the laws governing America's casinos, helping to transform the once-sleepy Indian gambling business into a $26-billion-a-year behemoth with 423 casinos across the country.

As factions of the ferociously competitive gambling industry have vied for an edge, they have found it advantageous to cultivate a relationship with McCain or hire someone who has one, according to an examination based on more than 70 interviews and thousands of pages of documents.

McCain portrays himself as a Washington maverick unswayed by special interests, referring recently to lobbyists as "birds of prey." Yet in his current campaign, more than 40 fund-raisers and top advisers have lobbied or worked for an array of gambling interests - including tribal and Las Vegas casinos, lottery companies, and online poker purveyors.

When rules being considered by Congress threatened a California tribe's planned casino in 2005, McCain helped spare the tribe. Its lobbyist, who had no prior experience in the gambling industry, had a nearly 20-year friendship with McCain."

Hayworth's explanation of the Abramoff contribution is spelled out by him here. Hayworth got direct contributions of $2,250 from Abramoff, which was donated to charity, Hurricane Katrina relief. The Indian tribe in question insisted the money they gave by way of Abramoff be kept by Hayworth.

Hayworth's exoneration of any criminal charges, by the US Dept. of Justice is in a letter from them here.

The McCain campaign is trying to use this non issue to destroy Hayworth, while indulging in bigger tribe money and underhanded backroom deals far surpassing anything Jack Abramoff pulled.

McCain has been chair of the Indian affairs committee since 2005, having served on it for many years prior. He used this position to bring down Abramoff, who was second only to handing out tribe dollars to McCain's man Scott Reed. Some have speculated the move was not so much to rid politics of the likes of Abramoff, but to gain a monopoly on tribe campaign dollars. There's even a book, 'The Perfect Villain: John McCain and the Demonization of Jack Abramoff' speculating McCain's motives.

In one such article, Chuck Muth writes:

"When stories of Jack Abramoff taking various Indian tribes to the cleaners first hit the press, McCain - Chairman of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee and author of the un-American, anti-free speech McCain-Feingold campaign censorship law - decided this would be an excellent opportunity to settle some old scores, help out some old pals, and do what Sen. McCain does best...get media attention for Sen. McCain.

As the Washington insider newspaper The Hill reported in March 2004, McCain wrote at least one letter on Senate letterhead praising Reed to one of Abramoff’s clients, the Saginaw Chippewa. Five days later, Abramoff was fired and the Saginaw Chippewa tribe retained Reed. In addition, columnist Bob Novak reported last December that on the eve of the investigation’s hearings, Reed handed some $200,000 in bundled contributions to McCain. Does this smell, or what?

The thing is, this McCain “investigation” looks like a real scandal in and of itself. If there are/were actual crimes involved, that’s what the Justice Department is for, not the Senate Indian Affairs Committee. Instead, McCain appears to be using his committee and his position to (a) grandstand for his 2008 presidential campaign, (b) pay back conservatives who opposed him in 2000, and (c) scratch the back of a well-heeled lobbyist who is scratching right back. "

McCain/Feingold/Campaign Finance 'reform' , more than meets the eye.

In 2006, Amanda Carpenter of Human Events relays this story.

McCain’s Law Preserved Loophole for Tribal Contributions

"Sen. John McCain (R.-Ariz.), chairman of the Indian Affairs Committee, says the campaign finance reform law he sponsored in 2002 intentionally left open a loophole that allows Indian tribes to make campaign contributions to an unlimited number of candidates for federal office.

Before McCain’s law passed, most Americans were allowed to give an aggregate of only $25,000 to party committees and candidates for federal office in any two-year election cycle. Indian tribes were not subject to that cap. McCain’s law lifted the aggregate-contribution cap to $95,000 for ordinary American contributors, but declined to impose any cap at all on Indian tribes.

When I asked McCain last week why this was the case, he said, “Because tribes are ‘sovereign entities.’ They are treated on a government-to-government relationship, and we’re looking at that whole issue.”

I asked, “But it was an intentional thing?” McCain replied, “Oh yeah. … Because they are ‘sovereign nations’ unquote. We sign treaties with them.”

When I pointed out that the U.S. does not allow contributions from foreign governments, McCain said, “No, we don’t. But they’re American citizens. So, it’s a unique kind of a status.”

Evidently, Mr. McCain also believes he deserves 'a unique kind of status'. And why not be the 'anti-earmark' champion when there is a ready source of campaign income flowing from lobbyists controlling Indian money?

How very 'Maverick' of you, Senator McCain.


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Hayworth's explanation of the Abramoff contribution is spelled out by him here. http://www.fittrust.org/

Hayworth's exoneration of any criminal charges, by the US Dept. of Justice is in a letter from them here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2439408/posts?page=30#30

1 posted on 01/29/2010 10:05:27 AM PST by AuntB
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To: pissant; rabscuttle385; stephenjohnbanker; Hildy; Jennikins; Maelstorm; Jim Robinson; SmokingJoe; ..

GO J.D. HAYWORTH!

http://www.jd2010.com/


2 posted on 01/29/2010 10:14:57 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

bttt


3 posted on 01/29/2010 10:28:21 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: TigersEye; darkangel82; ReyTurner; 999replies; MestaMachine; greyfoxx39; DoughtyOne; lonevoice; ...

Ping!

“The Hill reported in March 2004, McCain wrote at least one letter on Senate letterhead praising Reed to one of Abramoff’s clients, the Saginaw Chippewa. Five days later, Abramoff was fired and the Saginaw Chippewa tribe retained Reed. In addition, columnist Bob Novak reported last December that on the eve of the investigation’s hearings, Reed handed some $200,000 in bundled contributions to McCain. Does this smell, or what?”


4 posted on 01/29/2010 10:39:24 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB
bttt
5 posted on 01/29/2010 10:41:27 AM PST by marktwain
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To: AuntB

McCain has a lot in common with Pelosi and Obama. All are elitists, and all are better than you.


6 posted on 01/29/2010 10:47:34 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

McCain is doomed.


7 posted on 01/29/2010 10:59:23 AM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: darkangel82

Yep, we peasants are restless ;-)


8 posted on 01/29/2010 11:04:53 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: darkangel82

“McCain is doomed.”

That’s the plan!


9 posted on 01/29/2010 11:20:12 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

Well done, Aunt B. Go JD


10 posted on 01/29/2010 11:25:02 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Thanks, pissant. There is so much more to this Indian lobbying money than Jack Abramoff. McCain is up to his eyeballs in their money, making sure he controls it all.
And what has he really done for the average Indian’s betterment..Nothing, that’s what.

Please ping your list. Not many will see this since it’s in ‘bloggers’


11 posted on 01/29/2010 11:31:08 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

The dichotomy of McCain is interesting. On the one hand you have his dire, heroic trials during the Vietnam war. OTOH, his enduring efforts to destroy the US by way of ‘amnesty’ etc. I wonder what exactly is the connection between the ‘two McCains’? Is this guy a certifiable schizophrenic (by way of his mental war injuries) and should be locked away for the greater welfare or what?


12 posted on 01/29/2010 12:03:32 PM PST by Moltke (DOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the Big House - HOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the White House.)
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To: AuntB; pissant
Thanks AuntB archived to post with THIS

J.D. Hayworth is a Hard-Core Conservative.
Click here for
explanation of political philosophy.
Click here for
VoteMatch quiz.
 

JD on the issues


13 posted on 01/29/2010 12:05:19 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Carville "Part of the problem is that Mr Obama was refreshingly naive in believing his own rhetoric")
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To: Moltke

“I wonder what exactly is the connection between the ‘two McCains’? Is this guy a certifiable schizophrenic (by way of his mental war injuries) and should be locked away for the greater welfare or what?”

The guy isn’t real stable, that’s a fair conclusion. When researching this article some said he throws fits when he looses at gambling. And he gambles a lot.

Capitol Hill staffers rate their bosses.
McCain got no glory from those who work with him.
“Every election year we survey top aides on both sides of the aisle—administrative assistants, press secretaries, legislative directors, and chiefs of committee staffs—to get their up-close and personal, and anonymous, views. While there may be lots of partisan backbiting among congress members, their staffers seem far more capable of putting politics aside and making honest judgments. It wasn’t unusual for aides in both parties to name one of their own as “spineless” or give the “workhorse” nod to someone across the aisle. “

Worst Follower 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.) Show Horse 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.) Hottest Temper 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.) known to snap at staff when the cameras are off

THE McCAIN WAY - ATTACK REPUBLICANS

Defending His Amnesty Bill, “Presidential hopeful John McCain - who has been dogged for years by questions about his volcanic temper - erupted in an angry, profanity-laced tirade at a fellow Republican senator, sources told The Post yesterday. In a heated dispute over immigration-law overhaul, McCain screamed, ‘F— you!’ at Texas Sen. John Cornyn, who had been raising concerns about the legislation. ‘This is chickens—stuff,’ McCain snapped at Cornyn, according to several people in the room off the Senate floor Thursday. ‘You’ve always been against this bill, and you’re just trying to derail it.’” (Charles Hurt, “Raising McCain,” New York Post, 5/19/07)

In 2000, Sen. McCain Ran An Attack Ad Comparing Then-Gov. George W. Bush To Bill Clinton. SEN. MCCAIN: “I guess it was bound to happen. Governor Bush’s campaign is getting desperate, with a negative ad about me. The fact is, I’ll use the surplus money to fix Social Security, cut your taxes and pay down the debt. Governor Bush uses all of the surplus for tax cuts, with not one new penny for Social Security or the debt. His ad twists the truth like Clinton. We’re all pretty tired of that. As president, I’ll be conservative and always tell you the truth. No matter what.” (McCain 2000, Campaign Ad, 2/9/00; www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHoXkCprdL4)

Sen. McCain Repeatedly Called Sen. Pete Domenici (R-NM) nams. “Why can’t McCain win the votes of his own colleagues? To explain, a Republican senator tells this story: at a GOP meeting last fall, McCain erupted out of the blue at the respected Budget Committee chairman, Pete Domenici, saying, ‘Only an a–hole would put together a budget like this.’ Offended, Domenici stood up and gave a dignified, restrained speech about how in all his years in the Senate, through many heated debates, no one had ever called him that. Another senator might have taken the moment to check his temper. But McCain went on: ‘I wouldn’t call you an a–hole unless you really were an a–hole.’ The Republican senator witnessing the scene had considered supporting McCain for president, but changed his mind. ‘I decided,’ the senator told Newsweek, ‘I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.’” (Evan Thomas, et al., “Senator Hothead,” Newsweek, 2/21/00)

Sen. McCain Had A Heated Exchange With Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) And Called Him A “F*cking Jerk.” “Senators are not used to having their intelligence or integrity challenged by another senator. ‘Are you calling me stupid?’ Sen. Chuck Grassley once inquired during a debate with McCain over the fate of the Vietnam MIAs, according to a source who was present. ‘No,’ replied McCain, ‘I’m calling you a f—ing jerk!” (Evan Thomas, et al., “Senator Hothead,” Newsweek, 2/21/00)

In 1995, Sen. McCain Had A “Scuffle” With 92-Year-Old Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-SC) On The Senate Floor. “In January 1995, McCain was midway through an opening statement at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing when chairman Strom Thurmond asked, ‘Is the senator about through?’ McCain glared at Thurmond, thanked him for his ‘courtesy’ (translation: buzz off), and continued on. McCain later confronted Thurmond on the Senate floor. A scuffle ensued, and the two didn’t part friends.” (Harry Jaffe, “Senator Hothead,” The Washingtonian, 2/97)

Sen. McCain Attacked Christian Leaders And Republicans In A Blistering Speech During The 2000 Campaign. MCCAIN: “Unfortunately, Governor Bush is a Pat Robertson Republican who will lose to Al Gore. … The political tactics of division and slander are not our values… They are corrupting influences on religion and politics, and those who practice them in the name of religion or in the name of the Republican Party or in the name of America shame our faith, our party and our country. Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance, whether they be Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton on the left, or Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell on the right.” (Sen. John McCain, Remarks, Virginia Beach, VA, 2/28/00)

Celebrating His First Senate Election In 1986, Sen. McCain Screamed At And Harassed A Young Volunteer. “It was election night 1986, John McCain had just been elected to the U.S. Senate for the first time. Even so, he was not in a good mood. McCain was yelling at the top of his lungs and poking the chest of a young volunteer who had set up a lectern that was too tall for the 5-foot-9 politician to be seen to advantage, according to a witness to the outburst. ‘Here this poor guy is thinking he has done a good job, and he gets a new butt ripped because McCain didn’t look good on television,’ Jon Hinz told a reporter Thursday. At the time, Hinz was executive director of the Arizona Republican Party. … ‘There were an awful lot of people in the room,’ Hinz recalled. ‘You’d have to stick cotton in your ears not to hear it. He (McCain) was screaming at him, and he was red in the face.’” (Kris Mayes and Charles Kelly, “Stories Surface On Senator’s Demeanor,” The Arizona Republic, 11/5/99)

Sen. McCain “Publicly Abused” Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL). “[McCain] noted his propensity for passion but insisted that he doesn’t ‘insult anybody or fly off the handle or anything like that.’ This is, quite simply, hogwash. McCain often insults people and flies off the handle…. There have been the many times McCain has called reporters ‘liars’ and ‘idiots’ when they have had the audacity to ask him unpleasant, but pertinent, questions. ” (Editorial, “There’s Something About McCain,” The Austin American-Statesman, 1/24/07)

Is it any wonder McCain has few endorsements from his Congressional piers? http://thehill.com/endorsements-2008.html

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=john+mccain+congressional+staffers


14 posted on 01/29/2010 12:37:28 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

15 posted on 01/29/2010 12:40:53 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: AuntB

Thank you for that extensive background information. Makes one wonder, hmm?


16 posted on 01/29/2010 12:52:59 PM PST by Moltke (DOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the Big House - HOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the White House.)
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To: AuntB

Bump


17 posted on 01/29/2010 1:28:23 PM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: AuntB

Thing is going to be... how do we get the liberals in Flagstaff and the Indians in northern AZ to vote for JD v McCain..


18 posted on 01/29/2010 2:10:14 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn; All

“Thing is going to be... how do we get the liberals in Flagstaff and the Indians in northern AZ to vote for JD v McCain..”

I hear ya. Liberals and the Indians are who has kept him in office AND a lot of uninformed ‘conservatives’. It is them we have to reach. The Indians are getting too much wampum out of McCain to turn on him. UNfortunately. McCain understands what we don’t want to admit. Ignorant, needy groups like illegal aliens and Indian tribes are easily bribed.

Ignorance brought us McCain. We need to get smarter...FAST.

Poll after the 2008 election:

Voters Unaware of Candidates’ Immigration Positions; McCain Supporters Farthest Off the Mark

# Only 34 percent of McCain voters, 42 percent of Clinton voters, and 52 percent of Obama voters correctly identified their candidate as favoring eventual citizenship for illegal immigrants who meet certain requirements.
# Of McCain voters, 35 percent mistakenly thought he favored enforcement that would cause illegals to return home, another 10 percent thought he wanted mass deportations, and 21 percent didn’t know his position.
# Voters often held different positions from the candidate they supported. Only 31 percent of McCain voters had the same immigration position as he does[snip]

http://www.cis.org/node/13


19 posted on 01/29/2010 2:16:22 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
how do we get the liberals in Flagstaff and the Indians in northern AZ to vote for JD v McCain..

To quote James Carville, "drag hundred-dollar bills through Sedona and the rez"???

Or, as liberals are wont to do, make big promises.

20 posted on 01/29/2010 3:05:32 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Carville "Part of the problem is that Mr Obama was refreshingly naive in believing his own rhetoric")
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To: AuntB

Thank you, AuntB, for finding and posting this.


21 posted on 01/29/2010 3:09:57 PM PST by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters, now.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Sedona is a different story than Flagstaff, Flagg is very liberal and full of old hippies... Sedona is a mix and the Prescott area seems to lean more conservative.


22 posted on 01/29/2010 3:20:25 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: AuntB; Bob J

Oh, my!


23 posted on 01/29/2010 3:23:28 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! May God and TEA save the Republic!!)
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To: AuntB

You wouldn’t believe the radio ads McCain is running here in Prescott. So much drama and spin, like he is the only one standing up to the lefties in DC. Barf. I really hope he gets crushed in the election.


24 posted on 01/29/2010 4:08:23 PM PST by MannMade (This country was not founded by sissies, but now they are everywhere.)
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To: AuntB

Support JD bttt.


25 posted on 01/29/2010 4:21:42 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: AuntB

After reading this article, it’s gonna take a miracle to unseat McCain.
I despise gambling and the hold it has.


26 posted on 01/29/2010 4:26:32 PM PST by b9 (Bad spellers of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

If McCain owns the gambling contingency, how in the world can that be overcome? How on earth can Hayworth possibly surpass the mesmerism of gambling? Is that what this race boils down to?


27 posted on 01/29/2010 5:11:15 PM PST by b9 (Bad spellers of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: AuntB
This means nothing to them:


28 posted on 01/29/2010 5:30:13 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: MaggieCarta

You are most welcome. Please feel free to use it, the blog is mine. Links to all references are there. It’s all documented information. The site is also searchable and there’s more John McCain info I’ve posted over the years than you’ll ever want to know.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2010/01/indians-lobbyists-and-arizona.html


29 posted on 01/29/2010 6:18:46 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB
...there’s more John McCain info I’ve posted over the years than you’ll ever want to know.

I'm greatly afraid that you are quite correct. Although it is more than I want to know, it is probably not more than everyone should know! Thanks again, Aunt B.

30 posted on 01/30/2010 5:34:05 AM PST by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters, now.)
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To: MannMade; All

“You wouldn’t believe the radio ads McCain is running here in Prescott. So much drama and spin, like he is the only one standing up to the lefties in DC. Barf. I really hope he gets crushed in the election.”

I can imagine. McCain supporters bringing up Abramoff is quite telling. J.D. got a total $2, 250 from Abramoff.

McCain, just this last cycle got from his lobbyist/friend Scott Reed (This is above any money coming out of the Indian tribes by way of Reed):

$-2,300 06/30/2008 G JOHN MCCAIN 2008
$-2,300 03/31/2008 G JOHN MCCAIN
$2,300 02/14/2008 G JOHN MCCAIN
$-2,300 04/20/2007 P JOHN MCCAIN
$4,600 03/31/2007 P JOHN MCCAIN

http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/scott-reed.asp?cycle=08


31 posted on 01/30/2010 6:42:20 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Do the libs still vacate Flagstaff every year during the Indian Festival? (Because they can’t stand seeing them all over town...)


32 posted on 01/30/2010 6:53:11 AM PST by Canedawg (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: AuntB

33 posted on 01/30/2010 6:56:58 AM PST by McGruff (Love ya Sarah but I will support and contribute to JD Hayworth.)
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To: Paladin2; Bokababe; gwilhelm56; SteveAustin; norton; Pelham; Czar; wolfcreek; onyx; fish hawk; ...

Ping!

“The visit had been arranged by the lobbyist, Scott Reed, who works for the Mashantucket Pequots, a tribe that has contributed heavily to McCain’s campaigns and built Foxwoods into the world’s second-largest casino. Joining them was Rick Davis, McCain’s campaign manager. Their night of good fortune epitomized not just McCain’s affection for gambling, but also the close relationship he has built with the gambling industry and its lobbyists during his 25-year career in Congress.”


34 posted on 01/30/2010 7:41:08 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB
As I am an American Indian I know a little bit about the political views of tribes. Let me say that any politician that the tribes are for, should not be voted for by any moderate or conservative.
35 posted on 01/30/2010 8:34:23 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: fish hawk

“As I am an American Indian I know a little bit about the political views of tribes. Let me say that any politician that the tribes are for, should not be voted for by any moderate or conservative. “

I hear you, fish hawk. And McCain is their boy, bought and paid for.


36 posted on 01/30/2010 8:59:40 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB; fish hawk

Until gambling is no longer supported, there is no hope for McCain opposition. Would you agree?


37 posted on 01/30/2010 9:19:52 AM PST by b9 (Bad spellers of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: Canedawg

Not that I know of... when you go there it is a combo of NAU students,libs, people from down in the valley with summer homes in Flagg as well as a healthy sprinkling of tourists.


38 posted on 01/30/2010 9:21:35 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Canedawg

I forgot to add... and a lot of Indian’s who come there to shop.


39 posted on 01/30/2010 9:22:06 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: b9

“Until gambling is no longer supported, there is no hope for McCain opposition. Would you agree?”

No.


40 posted on 01/30/2010 9:32:21 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Years ago I stopped there during my travels, and had the pleasure of meeting some NAU students ;-)

I was told about how the town would be clearing out for the upcoming festival, and the reasons for doing so were very specific.

It’s a beautiful area, and I loved Sedona.


41 posted on 01/30/2010 9:32:42 AM PST by Canedawg (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: Canedawg

People coming to Arizona for the first time are usually shocked at how beautiful and diverse our state is.


42 posted on 01/30/2010 9:37:15 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: AuntB

Please tell me how the gambling industry can be overcome in this election to unseat McCain.


43 posted on 01/30/2010 9:44:44 AM PST by b9 (Bad spellers of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: SandRat; American Constitutionalist; Las Vegas Ron; joanie-f; Jane Austen; Budge; RC2; ...

Attention all Arizonians!

ping


44 posted on 01/30/2010 10:00:09 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB
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45 posted on 01/30/2010 10:02:09 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: greyfoxx39
" To quote James Carville, "drag hundred-dollar bills through Sedona and the rez"??? " .. i.e. Bribe the Tribe for votes.

46 posted on 01/30/2010 10:17:15 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: SandRat

ATTENTION ARIZONA!!!

Sandrat, Jim Deakin is also running. I thought he might be worth looking at until I read this today.

Deakin is a LIAR and not very bright. Why replace McCain..one liar, with another?

Jim Deakin: A VOTE FOR JOHN HAYWORTH IS A VOTE FOR JOHN McCAIN (JOHN Hayworth??? )

I scoured the Library of Congress and could find no significant differences in the voting record of John McCain and John Hayworth.

As a politician, it appears from the Library of Congress that Hayworth is politics as usual.

Hayworth served for 12 YEARS. I cannot list every vote (you are welcome to do your own research at http://thomas.loc.gov/ )

Amnesty laws and extensions passed during the Hayworth years in Congress. http://www.legion.org/documents/legion/pdf/illegalimmigration.pdf Page 14 and 15

1. Section 245(i) The Amnesty of 1994 – a temporary rolling amnesty for 578,000 illegal aliens.

2. Section 245(i) The Extension Amnesty of 1997 – an extension of the rolling amnesty created in 1994.

3. Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NA­SCARA) Amnesty of 1997 – An amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America.

4. Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act Amnesty (HRIFA) of 1998 — An amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti.

5. Late Amnesty of 2000 – An amnesty for illegal aliens who claim they should have been amnestied under the 1986 IRCA amnesty, an estimated 400,000 illegal aliens.

6. Life Amnesty of 2000 – A reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty that legalized an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens.

I did not look to see if JD actually voted for any of these Laws. However, he did not stop them either.

Jim Deakin
http://sonoranweeklyreview.com/?p=2441


47 posted on 01/30/2010 10:48:16 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; pissant; Will88; Magic Fingers; All

see post 47


48 posted on 01/30/2010 10:51:16 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB
I did not look to see if JD actually voted for any of these Laws. However, he did not stop them either.

Lol, now a candidate can hold a congressman or former congressman responsible for everything that happened while they were in office? Quite a campaign tactic if Deakin can find anyone who'll believe it.

49 posted on 01/30/2010 11:07:13 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

I could hardly believe a candidate would actually put such tripe in writing. And I had fun telling him so. :<)


50 posted on 01/30/2010 11:08:16 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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