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J.D. Salinger in Purgatory (Political Cartoon)
The San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 01-29-2010 | Steve Breen

Posted on 01/29/2010 5:05:02 PM PST by DogByte6RER

Purgatory

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: cartoon; catcherintherye; catherintherye; irony; jdsalinger; purgatory; salinger; thecatcherintherye
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Oh, the irony!
1 posted on 01/29/2010 5:05:03 PM PST by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

I struggled through “Catcher in the Rye” one time about 30 years ago and wondered what the heck all the fuss was about.

It ranged between utterly incomprehensible to totally boring.


2 posted on 01/29/2010 5:10:55 PM PST by Ronin
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To: DogByte6RER

Shouldn’t them “angels” be teenage boys ?


3 posted on 01/29/2010 5:11:03 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Ronin

I read it in high school and again at 29 years. What an absolute waste of time. Another one of those books that’s a “classic” merely because everyone says so.


4 posted on 01/29/2010 5:15:18 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

I read it for fun when I was in college and it’s one of my favorite books. Maybe you should try reading it again. You might like it this time.


5 posted on 01/29/2010 5:17:42 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

I read it because everyone was all atwitter about it being in our middle school library. I too, thought it was boring, and I thought the writer must really be a boring guy.


6 posted on 01/29/2010 5:19:38 PM PST by sockmonkey
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To: Ronin
I struggled through “Catcher in the Rye” one time about 30 years ago and wondered what the heck all the fuss was about. It ranged between utterly incomprehensible to totally boring.

Never read it, but I guess you're not the right one to ask... *\;-)

7 posted on 01/29/2010 5:21:45 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: MinorityRepublican
I will read it again after I finish Dune. Not.
8 posted on 01/29/2010 5:22:14 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: Ronin
It ranged between utterly incomprehensible to totally boring.

I was an English Lit major and Salinger was out of style in the early 70's. I finally read "Catcher" a few years ago. I can understand that it might have been a book that might have affected me a great deal more at 18. I certainly never had the skill to write its equal.

9 posted on 01/29/2010 5:26:39 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: DogByte6RER

Ha! I love Steve Breen’s cartoons.


10 posted on 01/29/2010 5:38:39 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: DogByte6RER

About all I ever got from that book was Caulfield’s ‘secret slob’ roommate, who had to shave twice; I’ve had to do that a few times.


11 posted on 01/29/2010 5:38:43 PM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: DogByte6RER

Great book. I really liked Franny and Zooey. The second half is excellent.


12 posted on 01/29/2010 5:40:13 PM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum)
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To: Ronin

Me, too. I didn’t get it....oh, the teenaged preppie angst!


13 posted on 01/29/2010 5:41:20 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What’s it about?


14 posted on 01/29/2010 5:42:13 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: MinorityRepublican
I read it for fun when I was in college and it’s one of my favorite books. Maybe you should try reading it again. You might like it this time.

I have found this to be true, myself. For example, some of Swift's satire eluded me in high school. My wife told me she rediscovered Lewis Carroll.

The books must have changed, huh?

15 posted on 01/29/2010 5:44:11 PM PST by Gorzaloon (GET him AWAY from the CAMERA!! They are all figuring it out!!!)
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To: Ronin

What was ‘incomprehensible’ about it? It’s written in very forthright prose.


16 posted on 01/29/2010 5:44:42 PM PST by Borges
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To: sockmonkey

It’s written from the point of view of a self obssesed adolescent. If you read Salinger’s short stories you’d see that it’s a ‘character’ nothing like Salinger himself.


17 posted on 01/29/2010 5:46:19 PM PST by Borges
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

It was a best seller upon release and became a classic because it appealed to multiple generations.


18 posted on 01/29/2010 5:47:34 PM PST by Borges
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To: Ronin

It is highly over-rated.

The left is trying to tie the novel and Salinger to the beatnik and population-gap group of writers.

The truth is, for anyone who actually studies literature, he didn’t do anything all that original or great.

He was a good writer. He wrote a good rejecting-coming-of-age novel. That’s about the extent of it.


19 posted on 01/29/2010 5:48:47 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Salinger had a huge effect on the architecture of the modern short story. They're very subtle and are can hinge on something as little as a single italized word.
20 posted on 01/29/2010 5:51:14 PM PST by Borges
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To: Gorzaloon

Swift’s satire takes some background to fully appreciate — background that comes with age and/or experience.

Salinger’s works don’t require that kind of background. You either like the story and get an emotional massage from angst or you don’t.


21 posted on 01/29/2010 5:52:50 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Borges

Deponds on your definition of prose.

I like many others was forced to read it 50 years ago. I read it again last year. It’s fothright crap.


22 posted on 01/29/2010 5:53:17 PM PST by satan
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To: DogByte6RER
Salinger is your typical insane liberal.

Sleeping would be more beneficial than reading his nonsense.

23 posted on 01/29/2010 5:57:30 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: satan

Yeah that’s why it has continual appeal to one generastion after the next. There’s a lot of thematic strands going on nd they’re put across via an unreliable narrator. It’s amazing how people can just summarily dismiss something. A while back I got into an argument with another poster who claimed James Joyce was essentially a fraudulent hack.


24 posted on 01/29/2010 5:57:46 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
I'm not knocking the guy's literary talent. I read it as an adolescent and just couldn't identify with...what was his name, Holden Caulfield? I just didn't get it. I didn't care anything about him or what happened to him.

For what it's worth, I tried to read Ivanhoe 4 times, at 4 different times of life. It just never "took" with me. And I love great books.

25 posted on 01/29/2010 5:58:05 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: Ronin
"I struggled through “Catcher in the Rye” one time about 30 years ago and wondered what the heck all the fuss was about."

I've read it about 4 times and its never knocked me down as overly brilliant but I still enjoy the prose, however Salinger's "Raise High the Roof Beam, Carpenters" is one of my favorite reads and has a prominent place on my "emergency book" bookshelf.

(When I can find nothing new to read I choose something from my "emergency book" bookshelf...)

26 posted on 01/29/2010 5:58:20 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: nmh

He was often overtly Christian in his fiction. CITR pops up on lists of All Time Favorite Conservative Novels.


27 posted on 01/29/2010 5:58:27 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

He was not alone in that. It was a movement. The modern short story was structured by many writers all adding and taking away pieces of straw and mortar.

Subtlety, nuance, and paradox are all part of the modern formula.

As I said, he was a good writer. To me (as a professional and creative writer), what you define is a good writer, but not a great one (as Melville, McCarthy, Wolfe, and, yes, I hate to admit, Hemingway, too).

If people like him, fine. I would never try to take that away. I just don’t like the way several groups rise up as soon as a writer dies and (usually with an ulterior motive) start declaring him/her “One of the top 5 American authors.”


28 posted on 01/29/2010 5:59:21 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
As far as short stories go, Shirley Jackson's The Lottery still creeps me out.
29 posted on 01/29/2010 6:01:23 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: nmh

Come to think of it you’ve probably never read a word of his.


30 posted on 01/29/2010 6:02:06 PM PST by Borges
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

That’s what you call it? I read a boring book about a whining spoiled brat little rich prick who liked to hit on older women, get drunk and make an idiot out of himself.

LOL, I guess that my extreme lower income, foster homes and juvenile hall childhood left me under-equipped to deal with that guy’s profound angst.

I wanted to kick his a$$ and make him join the Army.


31 posted on 01/29/2010 6:03:29 PM PST by Ronin
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To: Ronin
He's not supposed to be a likable character. He was a 15 year old growing out of his emotional immaturity.
32 posted on 01/29/2010 6:05:05 PM PST by Borges
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To: Ronin
I wanted to kick his a$$ and make him join the Army.

LOL!

33 posted on 01/29/2010 6:06:37 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: Ronin

Anything in it that would make you want to shoot a rock star?


34 posted on 01/29/2010 6:06:37 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Compasion overload can wait! People need help NOW!)
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To: Ronin

LOL!!!!


35 posted on 01/29/2010 6:07:51 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Holden Caulfield is now running the country. Even given the passing of his creator, it’s unfortunate for conservatives to be celebrating him.


36 posted on 01/29/2010 6:11:34 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: satan

The devil you say.


37 posted on 01/29/2010 6:11:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Colonel_Flagg

They aren’t celebrating him anymore than people who like the play Macbeth are celebrating the title character.


38 posted on 01/29/2010 6:13:36 PM PST by Borges
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To: DogByte6RER
He was a pretty good writer, not really great. Catcher was a pretty good book, not really great. I don't understand either the adulation or the animosity.

J.D. Salinger was okay, pretty good, not great.

39 posted on 01/29/2010 6:14:00 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama: The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

I read it so long ago I don’t remember much about it but I know I didn’t hate it as badly as I hated the movie “Raging Bull” that was supposed to be such a masterpiece. I thought it was more like raging Bullshit. I would call it one of the WORST movies ever made. If I had to drink Starbucks coffee and watch “Raging Bull” at the same time it would be a death sentence.


40 posted on 01/29/2010 6:15:58 PM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: Ronin

Pretty much my assessment of it also.

I think the main reason liberals were so orgasmic about it is because it had the F-word in it a couple of times which was apparently a big deal when it was published.


41 posted on 01/29/2010 6:21:13 PM PST by Zman516 (muslims, marxists, communists ---> satan's useful idiot corps)
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To: Zman516

It’s popped on lists of all time favorite conservative novels.


42 posted on 01/29/2010 6:22:50 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

Well, it ain’t on my list.

I just couldn’t empathize with HC.


43 posted on 01/29/2010 6:28:35 PM PST by Zman516 (muslims, marxists, communists ---> satan's useful idiot corps)
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To: Zman516

He’s not a likable character.


44 posted on 01/29/2010 6:29:25 PM PST by Borges
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To: DogByte6RER

..back in college we read CITR in American lit class...along with Melville,Faulkner,Steinbeck,Hemingway and Fitzgerald....I’m GLAD they had us read those great writers...guys like Steven King and John Grisham couldn’t carry their jockstrap...on their best day!


45 posted on 01/29/2010 6:30:06 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Not that I remember. Unless, of course, the brat grew up to be a rock star.


46 posted on 01/29/2010 6:31:13 PM PST by Ronin
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To: Ronin
Well, your comment is ironic. Holden Caulfield was, to a large degree, Salinger. Salinger was at Utah Beach on D-Day and fought in the Battle of the Bulge. He spoke German and interrogated Germans for our CIC...but don't misunderstand me: the guy was a major a-hole, crazier than a sh*thouse rat, and had a really bad self-involved attitude.

But, he WAS in the army.

47 posted on 01/29/2010 6:31:59 PM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Borges

As you wish.


48 posted on 01/29/2010 6:32:09 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: Pharmboy

How do you know he was an a-hole? His son claims he was a good guy and a great grandfather to his kids.


49 posted on 01/29/2010 6:33:42 PM PST by Borges
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
That is why he became a recluse. He wrote something from his heart and a bunch of nutjobs tried to turn a normal private man into an icon of the SF 60’s spoiled left.

The guy was just a quiet writer wanting to be left alone.

50 posted on 01/29/2010 6:44:36 PM PST by liberty or death
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