Skip to comments.Do we think twice about calling police?
Posted on 01/31/2010 5:41:25 AM PST by rellimpank
Charlie Mitchener, the Las Vegas business owner who was handcuffed and disarmed after presenting a concealed weapons permit along with his driver's license to a police officer responding to a burglary call at his place of business Jan. 3, has provided me with his Jan. 19 follow-up letter to Metro.
Mitchener says he decided to write police about his ordeal, detailed in this space on Jan. 10, lest his "silence may put someone else at risk."
"Shortly before 5 a.m. Jan. 3, the alarms in my office sounded and notified TSI, our security provider, that a break-in had occurred," Mitchener writes. "They ... dispatched a security guard.
"My wife, Peggy, and I arrived at the office about 5:15 a.m.; the security officer had arrived just before us. ... The security officer informed us that he had called Metro and they told him not to enter the building. ...
"The security officer said, 'I don't want to tell you what to do, but I'm familiar with situations where the bad guys will come busting out and your vehicle may provide them cover, so I suggest you move it away from the building.' "
(Excerpt) Read more at lvrj.com ...
—follow-up to this—
When TSHTF, I think many communities (certainly not all) will see the cops as part of the problem that needs to be dealt with.
One thing for sure, if you get shot or stabbed and can’t get outside to wait for EMT’s, tell the 911 operator you are having a heart attack or you will bleed to death waiting for the swat team to clear the building. The cops have gotten to be complete idiots when it comes to responding to crime scenes. Probably some new training protocol from the feds.
Bad cop! No donut!
The protocol is their safety above all else, especially yours, citizen. Rights be damned. This story illustrates that quite nicely. Besides, the courts have ruled that the function of the police is to clean up the mess afterwards, not actually protect you.
I agree that this is a training situation, but one that indicates that officers are not receiving important training, or didn’t remember it. The business owner did everything right, and he and his wife appear to be very “orderly persons.”
So the next step would be to suggest to a gun ownership association in the area that it would be a good idea to provide some training information to the area police forces, to avoid such incidents in the future.
Generally, police prefer not to mess up, but it’s hard to remember all the details of proper procedure day in and day out. So for the most part they don’t mind refresher materials, as long as they are well documented and easy to read.
So what dance of joy do you do when you hear an officer died in the line of duty? You support the criminals which means you think people should get a medal if they shoot an officer.
And every single person who hates the police would throw a baby in front of a gang member and go cower in the corner.
Nobody with an ounce of common decency hates the police.
Yes there are bad apples but only scumbags hate the police.
Which 'right' are you talking about?
Only communities made up of worthless brainless scum of the earth do.
No decent person hates the police.
And only someone with an IQ in the single digits thinks all police are bad because of a few bad apples.
More police hate and therefore love of gangs.
This is beyond absurd. They come upon a crime scene where the place is not secured and the cop goes into "training mode"? She put the lives of the owners at risk. There is no other way to say it. She should be reprimanded but reading the responses of the management she won't be. They'll probably write a citation of merit for the munchkin cop.
Affirmative action in action.
Unfortunately you are probably correct. I’m a retired cop, and I feel that way.
“...but its hard to remember all the details of proper procedure day in and day out.”
Sorry, but I totally disagree. We aren’t talking about some arcane paperwork procedure that the average officer does once a year.
So what dance of joy do you do when you hear an officer
BTW, you're scum for suggesting I enjoy the death of police officers
You support the criminals which means you think people should get a medal if they shoot an officer.
No bootlicker, I support law abiding citizens being able to assert their God-given rights. Again, you completely lie and put words in my mouth.
Oh, I don't know...how about the right to bear arms and the right to self defense? Or is that too "libertarian" for FR?
Nothing ever gets better and all they do is fill out reports
Today's cops are NOT your friends
How about the right to be secure in one's property against illegal search and seizure?
How about the 2nd ammendment?
I personally know several police officers, all of whom I have great respect for, this woman officer in question is incompetent and a danger to the society she is sworn to protect.
Well said, you have said nothing to deserve the attack that idiot launched on you.
I agree with your last statement.
every single person who hates the police would throw a baby in front of a gang member and go cower in the corner
No decent person hates the police
Wow, do you eat a lot of donuts? That sure is a lot of angry stereotyping you are doing there.
Looks like the n00bs meds haven’t kicked in this morning. Just ignore the unhinged.
Nytimese headlines from the past.(as best I can remember).
Josef Stalin leads world to a happy, comfortable future
USSR Leading Global Race to Make Better Future
U.S. falls behind; women, children, and minorities face bleak future here.
Funny how a police hating person accuses me of using stereotypes.
There has never been a decent human being who hates all police.
My mistake.. I pushed the right button at the wrong time.
Law enforcement training and policy has seemed to turn their priority away from serving the public to protecting themselves and their colleagues.
When I see film of six or eight cops with guns drawn and pointed at a postrate suspect, often innocent, on his stomach on the ground I wonder how many people get accidently killed by a weapon going off in such situations. Such policies promote the “because I said so” attitude by many LEOs and leads to grannies getting slammed to the ground and hand cuffed.
I don’t want LEOs taking unreasonable risks but the job is one of reasonable risk. That is what they sign up for. Now many departments demand minimal risk along with minimum consideration for the public.
Another person who dances with joy every time a police officer dies and would throw a 3 year old in front of the gang member trying to kill him.
Wait you might be a hope and changer!!! LOL
Your post was full of hate and gang banger lover calling me a bootlicker proves you hate the police.
Let’s see a gang member is attacking me who do I call?
The police or you who would high five the gang member and say “Please go kill every officer you find!”
DO you go to police officers funerals and say YEA HES DEAD YEA HES DEAD
Glad for your fellow officers someone who hates the police is off the force,
Cabal hates police. I hate child rapists, murderers, robbers, general rapists and such.
So if hating child rape, murder, other rape and robbery is idiocy I guess I am an idiot.
Typical of things like you are the worthless POS that showed up at my friend’s husband’s funeral and chanted Death to Police.
There is a broad middle ground here. For instance, my view is that healthy and vigorous skepticism about government power, especially armed power directed against sovereign citizens, should always be employed.
Yes, most cops are good people. History is replete with the examples of good people doing horrible things.
Lol. I don’t hate police (another ASSumption on your part), but I do think insecure people like you who spew garbage are more dangerous than a lot of criminal. I guess 80% of the Black population who hate police are all indecent. IF you beleive that, then maybe you are a racist trying to project your character flaws onto others.
Thanks for the compliment gang banger supporter but I am not a police officer.
I have quite a few friends who are or married to one and gone to too many funerals of those killed by your heroes the gang bangers.
And what dance do people like you do when an officer dies?
80 percent of blacks are wary of police. Doesn’t mean they hate them like you do.
The criminals love people like you who support them.
You know, it is possible to disagree strongly without calling names and insulting fellow FReepers. Not to mention that ad hominum attacks are clearly against forum rules.
Dude, what is your major malfunction?
After you have sobered up and read thru this thread you are going to be very embarrassed.
WHERE THE HELL DID THAT COME FROM??????
I bet you think all women who reject you are lesbians, huh?
Take a 5 lane road with next to no traffic on it at 5:30 in the morning. Those out are on their way to work. Put a cop out there to sit in a speed trap. No I did not get pulled over, I just pay taxes for him to sit there. I think it would be just grand if the cop was laid off and gone from the payroll. Just dandy. Cops do not write tickets to each other and their wives and girlfriends, professional courtesy they call it. So they must be dis-courteous to those they nab? I have nothing against cops who solve crimes and help people. Those in speed traps I do not like.
I think you’re being diverted. Rexgross can’t possibly be dim enough to believe his own posts. I dare say he’s just spamming the thread, because he doesn’t want any actual discussion on it. For any sensible comments, ignore him.
Another person who dances with joy every time a police officer dies and would throw a 3 year old in front of the gang member trying to kill him.,
Put down the crackpipe
Oh and enjoy your stay on freerepublic
One night the alarm went off and I grabbed my gun and the dog and I headed down stairs. There was a door that shut off the upstairs from the downstairs and because I lived in the country, I also had a siren that cycled every minute for a minute and then recycled...Everytime the siren recycled, it cut off the phone call from the ADT offices. I knew how to shut off the alarm, but didn't know that the battery back up needed to also be shut off and didn't know how to do that...
They sent the police and I saw someone coming up my driveway in a sheriff's uniform and went onto my enclosed porch. I had my dog at my side and my gun behind my back. I asked the sheriff when he introduced himself. "Where is your car"..He told me that on alarms they park there car away from the house and his partner was now going around the house checking all windows...
I told him to wait outside a minute and I would put my dog away...Mona was shut up in the back room and I put my gun in plain site on a desk about 10 feet from the dining room table, so that the deputy could see it...He sat down at the dining room table and I was still trying to talk (every minute the phone rang from ADT) to find out how to shut off the battery back up. It was in a back closet...
Got the back up shut off, talked with police man and his partner knocked on the door to come in and said all the windows were intact...(this was a 2 story 100 year old farmhouse with LOTs of windows.) They both knew I had a gun in plain site and never even questioned me about it...I informed them that my husband has recently passed away and that was why I had the alarm system put in...
These too guys were great, professional, and polite...I was smart enough even 20 years ago to put my dog away as she was not stranger friendly. I put the gun in plain site and was thankful they never questioned my about it as it was unregistered...inherited it when my father passed away...a little snub nose colt cobra. I have no complains about my encounter with the sheriffs office....but when I lived in Sterling Heights,(suburb outside of Detroit) some of those cops were just plain nuts...
Had 4 teen age boys and our last name was known, but so was the last name of probably ever teen male in the city...One of those boys is a freeper and will remain nameless. :O)
Man up and kick his ass.
Why do you need to call anyone? What will that accomplish?
"Please stop attacking me, Mr. Gang Banger, so that I can call the
Po-Po to protect me. They should be here in thirty minutes or so."