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UN chief calls for treaty to prevent cyber war(And called “driver’s license” for internet users)
Khaleej Times ^ | January 30th, 2010

Posted on 02/01/2010 12:34:05 AM PST by Red Steel

(AFP)DAVOS, Switzerland - The world needs a treaty to prevent cyber attacks becoming an all-out war, the head of the main UN communications and technology agency warned Saturday.

International Telcommunications Union secretary general Hamadoun Toure gave his warning at a World Economic Forum debate where experts said nations must now consider when a cyber attack becomes a declaration of war.

With attacks on Google from China a major talking point in Davos, Toure said the risk of a cyber conflict between two nations grows every year.

He proposed a treaty in which countries would engage not to make the first cyber strike against another nation.

“A cyber war would be worse than a tsunami — a catastrophe,” the UN official said, highlighting examples such as attacks on Estonia last year.

He proposed an international accord, adding: “The framework would look like a peace treaty before a war.”

Countries should guarantee to protect their citizens and their right to access to information, promise not to harbour cyber terrorists and “should commit themselves not to attack another.”

John Negroponte, former director of US intelligence, said intelligence agencies in the major powers would be the first to “express reservations” about such an accord.

Susan Collins, a US Republican senator who sits on several Senate military and home affairs committees, said the prospect of a cyber attack sparking a war is now being considered in the United States.

“If someone bombed the electric grid in our country and we saw the bombers coming in it would clearly be an act of war.

“If that same country uses sophisticated computers to knock out our electricity grid, I definitely think we are getting closer to saying it is an act of war,” Collins said.

Craig Mundie, chief research and strategy officer for Microsoft, said “there are at least 10 countries in the world whose internet capability is sophisticated enough to carry out cyber attacks ... and they can make it appear to come from anywhere.”

“The Internet is the biggest command and control centre for every bad guy out there,” he said.

The head of online security company McAfee told another Davos debate Friday that China, the United States, Russia, Israel and France are among 20 countries locked in a cyberspace arms race and gearing up for possible Internet hostilities.

Mundie and other experts have said there is a growing need to police the internet to clampdown on fraud, espionage and the spread of viruses.

“People don’t understand the scale of criminal activity on the internet. Whether criminal, individual or nation states, the community is growing more sophisticated,” the Microsoft executive said.

“We need a kind of World Health Organisation for the Internet,” he said.

“When there is a pandemic, it organises the quarantine of cases. We are not allowed to organise the systematic quarantine of machines that are compromised.”

He also called fo a “driver’s license” for internet users.

“If you want to drive a car you have to have a license to say that you are capable of driving a car, the car has to pass a test to say it is fit to drive and you have to have insurance.”

Andre Kudelski, chairman of Kudelski Group, said that a new internet might have to be created forcing people to have two computers that cannot connect and pass on viruses. “One internet for secure operations and one internet for freedom.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: internet; theweb; www

1 posted on 02/01/2010 12:34:05 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The history of governments’ attitudes towards the communications liberties of their people suggests this is more about censorship than security.


2 posted on 02/01/2010 12:40:41 AM PST by E Rocc (: Giving economic power to BHO is like giving condoms to Tiger Woods.)
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To: Red Steel
"Craig Mundie, chief research and strategy officer for Microsoft, said...Mundie and other experts have said there is a growing need to police the internet...He also called fo a 'driver’s license' for internet users."

Bill Gates was expressing his desires to tax Internet use in various ways--also an entry point to licensing users. The most prominent of wealthy people lean way to the left and against freedom on most issues. They want to rule the world and every individual in it. Various kinds of monarchy are still forms of centralized government and are akin to communism.


3 posted on 02/01/2010 12:42:49 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: familyop

When Windows is as virus free as Linux, then Bill Gates can talk.


4 posted on 02/01/2010 12:46:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Red Steel

>>The head of online security company McAfee told another Davos debate Friday that China, the United States, Russia, Israel and France are among 20 countries locked in a cyberspace arms race and gearing up for possible Internet hostilities.

So? This is inevitable and we dont need another worthless paper/resolution from the Useless Nations that wont do squat.


5 posted on 02/01/2010 12:46:21 AM PST by max americana
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To: Red Steel
"Andre Kudelski, chairman of Kudelski Group, said that a new internet might have to be created forcing people to have two computers that cannot connect and pass on viruses. 'One internet for secure operations and one internet for freedom.'"

That could be done, BTW. There are other protocols.


6 posted on 02/01/2010 12:46:36 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Red Steel
Ah well there is a need to prevent the next ‘hacker’ from leaking things like the UN’s so called climate change.
7 posted on 02/01/2010 12:46:47 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: E Rocc
"The history of governments’ attitudes towards the communications liberties of their people suggests this is more about censorship than security. "

Yep..."card check" for the internet...that's all it is.
8 posted on 02/01/2010 12:47:08 AM PST by FrankR (The ones of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"When Windows is as virus free as Linux, then Bill Gates can talk."

Or when that happens, when Windows is as virus free as NetBSD or OpenBSD,...


9 posted on 02/01/2010 12:49:28 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Red Steel
China probably wants to be blocked to help keep their people in line. So they are probably just going to keep attacking in one way or another no matter what you do.

On the other hand - this “declaration of war” talk from the UN is surprising. As if those fools are willing to recognize *anything* as a declaration of war. All of a sudden they talk about this as such. Makes me think they are finding a new way to gain control over people (eyebrow firmly locked in suspicious arch).

10 posted on 02/01/2010 1:09:35 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Round 2 (insert Bikini Babe here) - DING!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I was considering Linux. I hear it is cleaner than MS


11 posted on 02/01/2010 1:52:44 AM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: max americana

The naive nature seen here is amazing. These are people who sit around and discuss world policy and have no idea how things really work.


12 posted on 02/01/2010 2:50:17 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Red Steel

“The world needs a treaty to prevent cyber attacks becoming an all-out war, the head of the main UN communications and technology agency warned Saturday.”
These asshats are always calling for treaties, agreements, etc which are almost always ignored and violations are never enforced.


13 posted on 02/01/2010 3:21:08 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Red Steel

I often wonder if the world would be better off without Microsoft.


14 posted on 02/01/2010 3:23:53 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: pepsionice

People like this UN guy know how things work, perhaps not computers or the internet, but they know how to control people.


15 posted on 02/01/2010 3:52:52 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Eye of Unk; All

Amazing, the UN wants to take control of the internet and you folks start insulting Microsoft.

This isn’t about Microsoft, Apple, Linux, or any OS. This is about UN control of you and everything you do. They could care less whether you have a virus.


16 posted on 02/01/2010 3:55:06 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
"Amazing, the UN wants to take control of the internet and you folks start insulting Microsoft.

This isn’t about Microsoft, Apple, Linux, or any OS. This is about UN control of you and everything you do. They could care less whether you have a virus."

Exactly. They want themselves to control it.

It you think Windows is kludgy and error/malware prone, just wait until you see what a government/UN committee allows.

-Eric

17 posted on 02/01/2010 6:19:15 AM PST by E Rocc (: Giving economic power to BHO is like giving condoms to Tiger Woods.)
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To: E Rocc

“It you think Windows is kludgy and error/malware prone, just wait until you see what a government/UN committee allows. “

I don’t think Windows is a bad tool. After all the free market has made it the premier choice of consumers.


18 posted on 02/01/2010 7:47:59 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I tend to agree. I was speaking to the same audience you were. I suspect the standardization brought about by Windows has had a net beneficial effect on the rate of progress.

The infamous browser lawsuit struck me as the equivalent of suing Ford for refusing to sell cars with GM transmissions, or no transmission so the customer could install their own.


19 posted on 02/01/2010 11:15:53 AM PST by E Rocc (: Giving economic power to BHO is like giving condoms to Tiger Woods.)
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