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South Bend police probe handling of foot chase (K-9 bites cop, cop shoots K-9, handler attacks cop
Southbendtribune.com ^ | 02/01/2010 | Southbendtribune.com

Posted on 02/01/2010 7:17:02 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

SOUTH BEND — The South Bend Police Department is investigating whether officers behaved appropriately during a chase of a car theft suspect Sunday, a department official said.

Some police at the scene allege Cpl. Scott Ross mishandled his canine and scuffled with Cpl. Joshua Morgan after Morgan tried to shoot the dog, South Bend police spokesman Capt. Phil Trent confirmed.

"We're investigating what led to a shot (allegedly) being fired by an officer, what was the aftermath, and were all policies and procedures followed correctly," Trent said.

According to a police report, Morgan began chasing a teenager driving a stolen Oldsmobile about 3:45 p.m. Sunday.

Morgan chased the vehicle for about 3 miles before the driver crashed the car and began running away at the corner of Camden Street and Western Avenue, the report said. Morgan followed on foot.

Some officers' alleged version of events

The department is investigating what happened next.

Trent confirmed some officers at the scene have alleged the following occurred:

As Morgan was chasing the suspect, another officer, Cpl. Scott Ross, released his canine partner to help the chase.

For reasons that are not clear, the canine went after Morgan instead and attempted to bite him.

Morgan then fired at the canine, apparently in self-defense, but missed. He continued the pursuit as more officers arrived to help.

Officers caught the suspect in the back yard of a house in the 400 block of Liberty Street.

Meanwhile, Ross and Morgan began "swinging at each other" in the backyard after Ross became angry that Morgan shot at his dog.

As the dispute between Ross and Morgan continued, the canine began biting officers who were trying to arrest the suspect.

The canine bit Cpl. Dominic Hall on the left leg and then attacked Ptl. Jamil Elwaer on his upper left thigh, pinning him on the ground.

Other officers eventually pulled the dog off of Elwaer and separated Morgan and Ross.

The aftermath

Elwaer was taken by ambulance to Memorial Hospital, where he was treated and released, Trent said.

The department is still gathering information about the incident, Trent said.

It is standard procedure for the department to review incidents where an officer fires a gun, he said.

He said no officers have been placed on administrative leave, and that Elwaer's injury "could have been a lot worse."

He said officers have shot at police dogs in the past to protect themselves.

Ross has been a canine officer for several years, and has worked for the department since 1999, Trent said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: doginater; donutwatch; k9; napl; warondogs

1 posted on 02/01/2010 7:17:03 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

And the people of South Bend pay these people to protect them? LOLOLOL!


2 posted on 02/01/2010 7:19:30 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

how can we get one of the dogs to go after Obama?


3 posted on 02/01/2010 7:20:56 PM PST by Michigan Bowhunter (Democrat socialist liberal scumbags.....how did we let this happen!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Video you really want to see on the youtube


4 posted on 02/01/2010 7:21:20 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Don't panic, the lunatics are in charge and have everything in hand.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Thanks for this crazy story! Left out of “The Aftermath” is what happened to the K-9. Inquiring minds want to know. :-)


5 posted on 02/01/2010 7:21:51 PM PST by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: Central Planning Czar)
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To: FoxInSocks; The Magical Mischief Tour

I would bet that the K-9 will be sent for retraining. If it doesn’t work they’ll retire the dog.


6 posted on 02/01/2010 7:24:06 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

It’s a good thing he wasn’t a pitbull, they would have
killed him and his entire family.


7 posted on 02/01/2010 7:27:47 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SouthTexas; happydogx2; glock rocks; NormsRevenge

Pinging for comments...


8 posted on 02/01/2010 7:27:55 PM PST by tubebender (Thanks to all the Patriots who support Free Republic financially...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Good Lord....Cracks have not only formed in the foundation of government at all level, but now we have cops shooting at their own K-9s and then having a punch fest as the dog starts biting other LEOs on scene?

What insanity...

Indiana?

9 posted on 02/01/2010 7:28:40 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
He said no officers have been placed on administrative leave, and that Elwaer's injury "could have been a lot worse.

I'm thinking maybe the K9 officer needs to be put on leave -- the 4-legged one, that is. Not that it's all clear that he's at fault, but he must be one very confused dog right now, when it comes to issues of telling the bad guys from the good guys, whom to bite, etc. He deserves a little vacation time with some competent humans, followed by a bit of refresher training. What on earth were the arresting officers thinking of, attempting to arrest the slugging-it-out pair of officers which included the dog's handler, before someone managed to get the dog restrained? I mean, WTH did they expect the dog to do?

10 posted on 02/01/2010 7:28:42 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: DJ MacWoW
I would bet that the K-9 will be sent for retraining.

Not to mention some of the officers in this caper...This is way beyond embarrassing.

11 posted on 02/01/2010 7:30:03 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: tet68

Yeah. Somebody should have warned Our Gang that Petey was a time bomb. ;-)


12 posted on 02/01/2010 7:32:05 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I just don’t like cops shooting at dogs in most cases. This happens far too often. The milkman, meter reader, etc don’t get to shoot mean dogs but they’re not injured or killed by dogs anymore than extremely low, almost non-existant numbers. Why are some cops such sissies when it comes to dogs?


13 posted on 02/01/2010 7:34:11 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: dragnet2

I once watched someone’s house burn as the firemen had a fist fight because a fire truck bumped the fire chiefs car. They finally did remove the “bar” from the firehouse.


14 posted on 02/01/2010 7:34:18 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Alas Babylon!
I talked to a mail carrier a year or so ago, he's been on the "beat" for 20 plus years, and never had to shoot a dog...Only had to spay a dog one time he said...

I agree with your statement...

However, I did witness one cop pull his weapon on a dog, but didn't shoot it as the owner pleaded and stood between them....True story.

15 posted on 02/01/2010 7:43:03 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: DJ MacWoW

‘And the people of South Bend pay these people to protect them?”

They sure do catch pro lifers in a hurry.


16 posted on 02/01/2010 7:43:08 PM PST by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: gieriscm

Keystone cops live!!!! At least the dog is alive.


17 posted on 02/01/2010 7:45:15 PM PST by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: enduserindy
They sure do catch pro lifers in a hurry.

Probably. That would be a lazy man's job.

18 posted on 02/01/2010 7:47:50 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Michigan Bowhunter

It won’t be a dog, it will be a bus and his own party will throw him under it. Wait for it..


19 posted on 02/01/2010 7:48:06 PM PST by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Bad dog! Bad cop! Bad other cop!


20 posted on 02/01/2010 7:51:28 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (I think not, therefore I don't exist!)
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To: DJ MacWoW; The Magical Mischief Tour
I would bet that the K-9 will be sent for retraining.

I'm thinking that all the human officers involved could use some retraining too.

Think about it. Officer #1, the K9 handler released his dog into a situation where another officer is doing what would predictably appear to the dog to be fleeing in the same direction that the dog is being sent to catch someone. Officer #2, the shoot-to-miss specialist, figures the smart thing to do is to shoot Officer Dog -- maybe it was smart or maybe it wasn't, we don't know enough about the circumstances to be sure (though I suspect that immediately lying face-down on the ground would have been safer and more effective) -- but we do know he missed, and we have a pretty good idea he didn't know his backstop when he took the shot (and the K9 handler may well have been in the general line of fire). With Officer Dog now predictably attacking the guy who shot at him, who he already thought was a criminal and is now sure is a criminal, Officer #1 figures the smart thing to do is to start attacking Officer #2, thus removing any trace of doubt from Officer Dog's mind that Officer #2 is a dangerous criminal who must be taken down.

Officers #3 and #4 come upon the scene of Officers #1 and #2 slugging it out and Officer Dog responding as he'd been trained to respond to someone slugging it out with his handler, and decide the smart thing to do is to pile onto the slugfest while Officer Dog is still unrestrained, figuring Officer Dog would . . . well I don't think their figuring process had even started, when they went ahead and tackled Officers #1 and #2, and once again, Officer Dog responded as he'd been trained to do to anyone attacking his handler.

I say Officer Dog deserves a nice vacation at a beach resort and lots of doggie biscuits, before coming back to do a refresher course to try to untangle the tremendous confusion that Officers #1, #2, #3, and #4 have planted in his little doggie mind.

21 posted on 02/01/2010 7:51:32 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Or maybe the Dog was smarter than the cops and figured out who the bad guys were... would not be the first time.


22 posted on 02/01/2010 7:54:08 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Alas Babylon!

Me either. See my post #21. I’m not sure how police dogs are trained to handle a suspect who has given up, and followed the human officer’s pretty standard orders to lie down on the ground, face down, hands behind head, but I would think they’re trained to stop actually attacking and just stand on or right next to the suspect, poised to strike again if the suspect moves. If so, police officers should be trained to immediately assume that pose when a police dog is mistakenly attacking them, as long as it’s safe to do so given the specifics of the situation (and it sounds like it would have been in this case).


23 posted on 02/01/2010 7:57:41 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Actually the dog started biting cop 3 and 4 while they had the perp on the ground. And I think you’re right, they all need obedience school. :-)


24 posted on 02/01/2010 8:00:04 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Pefectly understandable.

Those poor officers are exposed to drugs and drug tainted money day in, and day out.

The dog was just attacking a bunch of perps in funny costumes, who reeked of drugs.

WARNING: as a civilian, if YOUR money (like 90% of American currency) has been detected as tainted by Officer Canine, the above will not apply to you.


25 posted on 02/01/2010 8:00:14 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (I think not, therefore I don't exist!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
WOW I thought CommieCrates had exclusive ownership rights to circular firing squad exhibitions.!
26 posted on 02/01/2010 8:01:27 PM PST by J Edgar
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Not that it's all clear that he's at fault, but he must be one very confused dog right now, when it comes to issues of telling the bad guys from the good guys, whom to bite, etc.

Ever wonder if perhaps the dog DID know who the bad guys were?

27 posted on 02/01/2010 8:09:30 PM PST by PAR35
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
... were all policies and procedures followed correctly," Trent said.

Does this mean there there is a "policy or procedure" for an officer to follow when shooting a police K9?

28 posted on 02/01/2010 8:23:40 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

And one wonders where Reno 911 gets its scripts.


29 posted on 02/01/2010 8:24:31 PM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Easily explained: The perp who wrecked the car and was being chased was wearing a police uniform, too. ;^)


30 posted on 02/01/2010 8:32:40 PM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I’m siding with the dog.

He probably bit all the right people.


31 posted on 02/01/2010 8:36:58 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: tubebender

If a copy shoots at me you can bet your sweet bippee I’m gonna bite his a$$.

If a brother cop shoots at my police dog I’m gonna bite his a$$ too.

Idiots.


32 posted on 02/01/2010 9:03:51 PM PST by happydogx2 (Old memories are, well, old. It's better to make new ones then re-live the past.)
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To: tubebender

I’ll take the dog.


33 posted on 02/01/2010 9:07:59 PM PST by SouthTexas (Exterminate the rats!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
I worked with a lot of K9's in my day as an officer. But never even came close to getting bit by one of the dogs during a foot chase or fight with a bad guy.

The closest I came was I was helping the K9 Officer with some training one night. In the morning when we got off work, I put on the same jacket I had been wearing during the training.
I went walking past the squad-room and said good night to everyone.
As I put my hand on the door-nob to open it, there was a GS dog on my back. He gave a little growl. And I cried for the K9 Officer.

I never wore that coat to work again. <;8*)

ED

34 posted on 02/01/2010 9:22:06 PM PST by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: ApplegateRanch; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ..
I didn't know that Quentin Tarantino was remaking The Keystone Kops.


35 posted on 02/02/2010 12:47:19 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; Slings and Arrows
I didn't know that Quentin Tarantino was remaking The Keystone Kops.

Where's Leslie Nielson when you need him?


36 posted on 02/02/2010 1:20:41 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: dragnet2; Slings and Arrows
never had to shoot a dog...Only had to spay a dog one time he said...

I hope it was his own dog. If not, the owner must have been pretty testy if the mailman spayed his prize bitch.

37 posted on 02/02/2010 3:14:47 AM PST by TheOldLady (We'll remember in November.)
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To: TheOldLady

USPS training must be better than I thought.


38 posted on 02/02/2010 3:29:41 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

:-D


39 posted on 02/02/2010 3:50:24 AM PST by TheOldLady (We'll remember in November.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Just wow. Looks like somebody needs to go back to Dog Training, 101. Then, somebody needs to quit trying to beat the tar out of his fellow police officer and watch his dog better.

The dog just does what it’s been trained to do (or not).


40 posted on 02/02/2010 6:47:53 AM PST by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: TheOldLady
I talked to a mail carrier a year or so ago, he's been on the "beat" for 20 plus years, and never had to shoot a dog...Only had to spay a dog one time he said...

I agree with your statement...

However, I did witness one cop pull his weapon on a dog, but didn't shoot it as the owner pleaded and stood between them....

I hope it was his own dog.

Hopes and wish's are for children. I am confident it was not his dog.

41 posted on 02/02/2010 8:02:29 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
A stolen Oldsmobile?
42 posted on 02/02/2010 9:05:30 AM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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To: dragnet2; TheOldLady

r.


43 posted on 02/02/2010 9:20:19 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

Just let it go... ;-)


44 posted on 02/02/2010 1:36:37 PM PST by TheOldLady (We'll remember in November.)
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