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Open Homosexuality in the Military is a Disaster and May Cause Further Natural Disasters
Christian News Wire ^ | Feb 2, 2010 | Rabbi Yehuda Levin

Posted on 02/01/2010 8:03:50 PM PST by DesertRenegade

When Americans are suffering economically and millions need jobs, it's shocking that the Administration is focused on its ultra-liberal militantly homosexualist agenda forcing the highlighting of homosexuals and homosexuality on an unwilling military. This is the equivalent of the spiritual rape of our military to satisfy the most extreme and selfish cadre of President Obama's kooky coalition.

We agree with Eileen Donnelly of the Center for Military Readiness that this will hurt the cohesiveness of the military, cause many to leave the army, and dramatically lower the number of recruits, perhaps leading to the reinstatement of a compulsory draft.

Thirteen months before 9/11, on the day New York City passed homosexual domestic partnership regulations, I joined a group of Rabbis at a City Hall prayer service, pleading with G-d not to visit disaster on the city of N.Y. We have seen the underground earthquake, tsunami, Katrina, and now Haiti. All this is in sync with a two thousand year old teaching in the Talmud that the practice of homosexuality is a spiritual cause of earthquakes. Once a disaster is unleashed, innocents are also victims just like in Chernobyl.

We plead with saner heads in Congress and the Pentagon to stop sodomization of our military and our society. Enough is enough.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aids; homosexualagenda; pedophilia; sodomy
Dear God I hope Congress stands up to Obama on this one. While fighting two wars, the last thing we need is to inject open homosexuality into our elite military units. It's almost as if B.O. is fiendishly trying to figure out the best way to weaken our military so he wants to introduce fisting and homosexual sodomy into the barracks of the armed forces. NO THANK YOU ZERO!
1 posted on 02/01/2010 8:03:51 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade

To progressive Dems, the Military has always been a social experiment. I suggest that our Military only protect those of us who want protection. The ones that want a social experiment need to be victims of that social experiment.


2 posted on 02/01/2010 8:06:23 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: DesertRenegade

Israel and the UK have had homosexuals serving in the IDF for years now, with no loss of military readiness. I’m anti gay “marriage” but don’t understand Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.


3 posted on 02/01/2010 8:08:22 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: DesertRenegade
Natural disasters caused by gays in the military?

Fred Phelps, is that you?

4 posted on 02/01/2010 8:09:57 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: DesertRenegade

He is, and I fear the American people will support him on this in the name of liberal “tolerance”. Isn’t Scott Brown for this too?


5 posted on 02/01/2010 8:12:51 PM PST by Theodore R. (...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Why do I get the feeling this thread might quickly spiral out of control and get pulled?


6 posted on 02/01/2010 8:13:41 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Alter Kaker
"Israel and the UK have had homosexuals serving in the IDF for years now..."

brits serve in the idf? who knew? :^)

7 posted on 02/01/2010 8:17:24 PM PST by robomatik (III %)
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To: Alter Kaker

“Israel and the UK have had homosexuals serving in the IDF for years now, with no loss of military readiness.”

I beg to differ. Not sure if you’ve ever served, but our military is far superior to those of Europe. We have by far the most well trained and highly skilled military units in the worlds. Why in the world would someone want to introduce open homosexuality into the barrack, showers, and sleeping quarters unless they were determined to undermine unit cohesion. Something no one has ever been able to answer is this: if open homosexuals should be allowed to shower with other nude males, then are we going to allow normal red-blooded male soldiers to shower with nude women? Why or why not?


8 posted on 02/01/2010 8:17:47 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: robomatik

Whoops!


9 posted on 02/01/2010 8:19:31 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: dayglored

Well IMHO...ever since the Gays came out of the CLoset into society, changing the ideals of what family is, what morality is, diminishing the role of Mother and Father, our Country has been in a downward spiral......


10 posted on 02/01/2010 8:19:40 PM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: DesertRenegade
Thirteen months before 9/11, on the day New York City passed homosexual domestic partnership regulations, I joined a group of Rabbis at a City Hall prayer service, pleading with G-d not to visit disaster on the city of N.Y. We have seen the underground earthquake, tsunami, Katrina, and now Haiti.

I was not aware that NYC was hit by a tsunami, a hurricane and one of those "underground" earthquakes.

11 posted on 02/01/2010 8:23:10 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: DesertRenegade

Something no one has ever been able to answer is this: if open homosexuals should be allowed to shower with other nude males, then are we going to allow normal red-blooded male soldiers to shower with nude women? Why or why not?

or what about all of our trangendered folk, who are men but feel like they are women, and want to shower with the ladies?
no doubt our military will rank right up there with Italy and Netherlands after this


12 posted on 02/01/2010 8:24:51 PM PST by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: DesertRenegade
I beg to differ. Not sure if you’ve ever served, but our military is far superior to those of Europe. We have by far the most well trained and highly skilled military units in the worlds. Why in the world would someone want to introduce open homosexuality into the barrack, showers, and sleeping quarters unless they were determined to undermine unit cohesion. Something no one has ever been able to answer is this: if open homosexuals should be allowed to shower with other nude males, then are we going to allow normal red-blooded male soldiers to shower with nude women? Why or why not?

I'm Israeli and I have served. I don't want to get into the kind of chest-thumpin "my army is better than yours" claptrap, but I don't think most people think of the Israeli Defence Forces as being wimpy or poorly trained -- despite the fact that homosexuals serve openly in elite units. I've never heard of a male soldier being raped by another soldier in Israel -- and I imagine that would make the news. When you're surrounded by a billion people who want you dead, you don't have the luxury of turning away any loyal soldier capable of aiming a rifle in the right direction.

13 posted on 02/01/2010 8:25:16 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: dayglored

“Natural disasters caused by gays in the military?”

Well of course.

And if we were to rid the US military of gays, the world would have no more natural disasters.


14 posted on 02/01/2010 8:25:20 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: TaraP
> ...our Country has been in a downward spiral..

No disagreement on that point. But it's a LO-O-O-O-O-O-ONG way from social/political/economic/moral issues, to natural disasters like Katrina and earthquakes.

I don't buy the connection.

But even if I did.... Among other things, for every homosexual that a natural disaster kills, it also kills 10 times as many straights. God isn't that vindictive or that poor a shot.

15 posted on 02/01/2010 8:25:20 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: trumandogz
> And if we were to rid the US military of gays, the world would have no more natural disasters.

Wow!

More research is needed!! Quick!!! Get me a grant!!!!

16 posted on 02/01/2010 8:26:45 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: DesertRenegade
I keep saying it, but no one seems to get it. Another poster once stated 'the love left unspoke has become the love that won't STFU.'

At first it was homos in the privacy of a bedroom. Now, it is in our parks, bus stations, parades, schools, workplace etc etc. At first it was just the gays; now it is the gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, transgendered, bestiality types... the list grows on.

Once they allow fags to openly serve in the military, it will be another stepping stone.... the transgendered freaks will complain they are being discriminated against. Soon we will have "dudes" running around in female service skirts and having their own lists of problems. Then we will have to worry about whether "its" can serve in combat arms billets; women can't can some it that had an attachadictomy? Then there will be hetero males getting married to cash in on "family" benefits so they don't have to live in the barraks (the increase in BAH/COMRATS will cause shortfalls and cuts elsewhere).

Sounds like good order and discipline to me. /sarc

17 posted on 02/01/2010 8:27:19 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Alter Kaker

So you say UK was “ready” to rescue those captured sailors from Iran by force?


18 posted on 02/01/2010 8:30:28 PM PST by omega4179 (NOT TRUE.)
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To: Theodore R.
He is, and I fear the American people will support him on this in the name of liberal “tolerance”. Isn’t Scott Brown for this too?

WALTERS: You're a Lieutenant-Colonel. On Wednesday the president announced that he wants to work with Congress to repeal don't ask, don't tell. What's your view? BROWN: I think it's important, because as you know we're fighting two wars right now. And the most -- the first priority is to -- is to -- is to finish the job, and win those wars. I'd like to hear from the Generals in the field -- in the field -- the people that actually work with these soldiers to make sure that, you know, the social change is not going to disrupt our ability to finish the job and complete the wars. WALTERS: But Senator, your own view. BROWN: That's my view. WALTERS: So you can't say whether you're for or against it? BROWN: No. I'm going to wait to speak to the generals on the ground.

19 posted on 02/01/2010 8:34:49 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Theodore R.
He is, and I fear the American people will support him on this in the name of liberal “tolerance”. Isn’t Scott Brown for this too?

WALTERS: You're a Lieutenant-Colonel. On Wednesday the president announced that he wants to work with Congress to repeal don't ask, don't tell. What's your view?

BROWN: I think it's important, because as you know we're fighting two wars right now. And the most -- the first priority is to -- is to -- is to finish the job, and win those wars. I'd like to hear from the Generals in the field -- in the field -- the people that actually work with these soldiers to make sure that, you know, the social change is not going to disrupt our ability to finish the job and complete the wars.

WALTERS: But Senator, your own view.

BROWN: That's my view.

WALTERS: So you can't say whether you're for or against it?

BROWN: No. I'm going to wait to speak to the generals on the ground.

21 posted on 02/01/2010 8:35:21 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: omega4179
So you say UK was “ready” to rescue those captured sailors from Iran by force?

You're saying they would have if it hadn't been for the homosexuals? Kind of a funny argument.

22 posted on 02/01/2010 8:35:36 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

I see your point, and you make a good one, however IMO it is a bit more than just *Gays serving openly in the Military* it is about forcing society to accept a lifestyle most people reject..Every state that has been allowed to vote on Gay Marraige has voted an astounding *NO*

It is about standing up for Morality, not man’s version but GOD’s the GOD of the Universe..It is about standing up for Morality found in Judeo/Christian principles, being able to freely say..Homosexuality relationships are a SIN, are an abomination to a Holy Just GOD without being slapped with a Hate Crime....

We are being forced to accept a deviant immoral lifestyle by a few who say Homosexuality has a right, equal and acceptable as Heterosexuality...


23 posted on 02/01/2010 8:39:16 PM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: DesertRenegade

“It’s almost as if B.O. is fiendishly trying to figure out the best way to weaken our military....”

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Shame on you that it took you this long to figure it out.


24 posted on 02/01/2010 8:39:49 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: DesertRenegade

Is Eileen Donnelly related to Elaine Donnelly?


25 posted on 02/01/2010 8:41:24 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: DesertRenegade

INDEED.


26 posted on 02/01/2010 8:45:33 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Alter Kaker

“When you’re surrounded by a billion people who want you dead, you don’t have the luxury of turning away any loyal soldier capable of aiming a rifle in the right direction.”

Again, I simply ask you to explain why you would discriminate against males who want to shower with nude females? What is the difference between that and avowed homosexuals showering and sleeping with all males in the barracks? Are you suggesting that homosexuals are better able to control their sexual urges than heterosexual males? If not, then men should be allowed to shower and bunk with females right?


27 posted on 02/01/2010 8:57:30 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade
fiendishly trying to figure out the best way to weaken our military

EXACTLY

28 posted on 02/01/2010 8:58:06 PM PST by bperiwinkle7 ( In the beginning was the WORD................)
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To: Alter Kaker

gays can serve in the US military as long as they don’t practice or flaunt their homosexuality


29 posted on 02/01/2010 9:17:29 PM PST by ari-freedom (Let me be clear: Obama sux)
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To: DesertRenegade

Plus, everyone in Israel has to serve, so it doesnt matter their sexuality.

And from my friend who was in the 82nd, the two gay people he knew did not think being gay was the most important thing in their life. They did not want to flaunt it, and I would bet the majority of gay soldiers dont want to flaunt it. It is gay Hollywood that wants to flaunt it.


30 posted on 02/01/2010 9:18:45 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: DesertRenegade

Another reason to legitimize the abomination of homosexuality.


31 posted on 02/01/2010 9:24:58 PM PST by doc1019 (To call Obama a bumbling idiot would be an insult to bumbling idiots worldwide.)
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To: DesertRenegade
If not, then men should be allowed to shower and bunk with females right?

Like in the movie Starship Troopers? {/sarcasm}

I read the book a long time ago, and there were female PILOTS in the military, but no mixing with male ground forces, as in that travesty of a movie.

32 posted on 02/01/2010 9:32:02 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Give 'em hell, Sarah!)
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To: trumandogz

“All this is in sync with a two thousand year old teaching in the Talmud that the practice of homosexuality is a spiritual cause of earthquakes.”

Don’t say nuthin’ spifik ‘bout military, Jake.


33 posted on 02/01/2010 10:50:25 PM PST by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: DesertRenegade

Guess we are going to change the two mile run to the two mile skip.


34 posted on 02/01/2010 11:17:06 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: dayglored

When the dinosaurs turned gay God killed them all with an asteroid.


35 posted on 02/01/2010 11:20:55 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: bushpilot1
Guess we are going to change the two mile run to the two mile skip.

I know a guy who I presume to be gay that is an officer in the military and I don't think he skips, but has worked to keep this country safe for the last 14 years.

He is one tough SOB, and I imagine he has sent quite a few Jihadist to meet their maker.

36 posted on 02/01/2010 11:24:38 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: dayglored
Why do I get the feeling this thread might quickly spiral out of control and get pulled?

Perhaps, because, by juxtaposing in its title homosexuality and natural, it recalls memories of obsolete legislation?

37 posted on 02/01/2010 11:33:38 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: DesertRenegade

Cant wait to see those flaming Perez Hilton types on the front lines “bitch slapping” the Taliban into submission. Are the Army and Marine Drill instructors now have to take sensitivity training so as to not insult or demean the “PP Puffers”? I can hear the battle cry now “OH NO ITS THE HOMO’S, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE”. Will they all sit around playing Village People and Cher records non stop? Well theres another reason to send a suicide bomber into your barracks because you have homosexual soldiers. Thank God, I served in the Military when our forces were STILL real fighting men, not a bunch of purple BARNEY types who want everyone to feel good. What are we going to have now, a guy in your group/unit going around giving out camo fashion do’s and dont’s for the rest of them. Dont ask, dont tell allowed them to serve, now the IDIOTS, YES THE IDIOTS in command/DC want them on the front lines. Well you are going to need more lawyers to investigate friendly fire incidents in foxholes too. How long until one of them go ballistic like the Muslim at Fort Hood because he didnt get a date on a Saturday night? How long before we have goats and sheep entering the service for the entertainment of these sexually perverted people.

Where has all of our great military mentors/leaders gone to. Where is the Pattons, Bradleys, MacArthurs, Eisenhowers and others. Thats right, they are causing all of the earthquakes we are having in the world right now because they are spinning in their graves watching what is going on with the American military or should I say the “Brokeback Military”.

IF THIS IS PUT INTO EFFECT WE HAVE TRULY LOST AMERICA AND EVERYTHING IT HAS STOOD FOR!

You better start looking for somewhere else to live, I will!!!


38 posted on 02/02/2010 12:39:32 AM PST by MRBIGMUTTS
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To: DesertRenegade

What do you expect from somebody that enjoys gay sex while smoking crack.


39 posted on 02/02/2010 2:55:33 AM PST by Uncle Meat
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To: trumandogz

good for him..but...does not change things..homos do not belong in the military


40 posted on 02/02/2010 2:58:04 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: DesertRenegade

What a great post. Thanks. Put in on some religious forums where libs went after Robertson for his Haiti comments.

Their heads are about to explode. They had no idea there is a Judeo-Christian tradition of seeing natural disasters as God’s judgement.


41 posted on 02/02/2010 3:23:47 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Rabbi Levin ping


42 posted on 02/02/2010 3:28:24 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal departs Iraq 2-1.)
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To: TigersEye
> When the dinosaurs turned gay God killed them all with an asteroid.

Cool. I've now learned my "New Internet Fact-o'-The-Day" and can go back to sleep. ;-)

But if the dinosaurs turned gay, it would only take a generation or two of no offspring, and they'd all be dead anyway...

43 posted on 02/02/2010 7:01:04 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: DesertRenegade

Give them what they want. Every gay entering the military will be assigned to the infantry and will have the chance to serve multiple tours in the ME.


44 posted on 02/02/2010 7:08:45 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: trumandogz; Alter Kaker; don-o
I've got to agree that there have been gay soldiers in the every military we know about since ~1,000 BC or the beginning of recorded military history, and there are certainly gay soldiers in the U.S. military now, serving with honor.

It works out well in the US, in my opinion, because "don't ask don't tell" makes it impossible for gay men to make a public issue of their private sexual inclinations. And that's as it should be. To the "right of privacy" I would add, as a reasonable corollary, the "duty of privacy": as long as you don't make it my business, it's none of my business.

There may be problems with horny gay guys living in close quarters with lots of attractive youg men. That seems poredictable, but who knows? But we ALL know from experience that the abolition of "don't ask don't tell" will lead to a huge profusion of demands for services, programs, and recognition of everybody with a sexual agenda, and lawsuits if such demands are not met.

It's not the individual honorable gay serviceman, but the obnoxious and well-organized sex-rebel-activist movement, that wants to compel the military to offer housing and other matrimonial benefits to gay couples, force military chaplains to marry them (or "recognize" their marriages, or offer them "relationship counseling"), prosecute fellow soldiers for "hate crimes" consisting of a joke, an "insensitive" word or a disparaging look; institute Gay Pride Month or Glory Hoo-Ah Week or Harvey Milk Military Recognition Day --- riff through the gay keyword on Free Republic and you'll get the idea.

"Defining deviancy down" has been rejected in every place where it has been put to a vote. We don't cotton to social change via court order or executive fiat. We sure don't want the authority structure of the military being exploited to impose "attitude adjustments" on our soldiers which we would refuse to have shoved down our throats in our own communities.

45 posted on 02/02/2010 7:30:24 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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