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Gay Ban Should Be Lifted, Mullen Says (Barf)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | February 2, 2010 | AP

Posted on 02/02/2010 11:06:34 AM PST by jazusamo

WASHINGTON—The military's top uniformed officer said Tuesday that gays should be allowed to serve openly in uniform, arguing that it is "the right thing to do."

Adm. Mike Mullen's statement was the strongest yet from the military on this volatile issue, although he stressed that he was "speaking for myself and myself only." He told the Senate Armed Services Committee Tuesday he is deeply troubled by a policy that forces people to "lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens."

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs Staff said he knows many will disagree about abandoning the "don't ask, don't tell" policy and said there are practical obstacles to lifting the 1993 ban. But he said he thinks the military can handle it. Adm. Mullen is chief military adviser to President Barack Obama.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dadt; dontaskdonttell; mullen
I suspected Mullen would do this though surprised he feels this strongly.
1 posted on 02/02/2010 11:06:35 AM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

This story is so gay.


2 posted on 02/02/2010 11:07:56 AM PST by RexBeach ("Those are my principles...if you don't like them, I have others." Groucho Marx)
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To: jazusamo

The ultimate in the diversity you’re so proud of, eh Admiral?


3 posted on 02/02/2010 11:08:06 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: jazusamo

My grandson on the nuclear submarine says: #**&^!!!


4 posted on 02/02/2010 11:08:42 AM PST by Palladin (It's a new day in America. Welcome, Senator Brown.)
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To: jazusamo

Fire him.


5 posted on 02/02/2010 11:08:42 AM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: jazusamo

There is no “gay” ban. The ban is talking about it. If these people would just shut up, they would be fine.


6 posted on 02/02/2010 11:08:56 AM PST by svcw (Ellie and Mark come out come out where ever you are.....)
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To: svcw
There is no “gay” ban. The ban is talking about it. If these people would just shut up, they would be fine.

An excellent point.

7 posted on 02/02/2010 11:09:57 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: jazusamo

Mullen. Isn’t he a Navy guy? Hmmm. Lets see, men who want to be isolated on ships, away from women. Suspicions confirmed.


8 posted on 02/02/2010 11:10:05 AM PST by XHogPilot
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To: jazusamo

There is NO gay ban....

What they are prohibited from doing is flaunting their sexuality. The Pentagon’s policy guidelines on homosexuals in the Military state:

“Sexual orientation will not be a bar to service unless manifested by homosexual conduct. The military will discharge members who engage in homosexual conduct, which is defined as a homosexual act, a statement that the member is homosexual or bisexual, or a marriage or attempted marriage to someone of the same gender.”

It’s open homosexuality that the military prohibits. Ike Skelton, the leading House Democrat on military policy, opposes repealing the policy. So does John McCain, who responded to the president’s decision by defending DADT. He said, “This successful policy has been in effect for over 15 years, and it is well understood and predominantly supported by our military at all levels.”


9 posted on 02/02/2010 11:10:26 AM PST by Freddd
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To: svcw

Exactly...This will open up a can of worms for those that want to take the “in you face” approach.


10 posted on 02/02/2010 11:11:06 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

What is happening here? Where are our MEN. Geez.


11 posted on 02/02/2010 11:11:19 AM PST by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: jazusamo
Any military officer above O-6 are politicians first, military officers second.
They are so far out of touch with their troops it's not funny.
12 posted on 02/02/2010 11:11:42 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Freddd

And did we all contact the President and our Representatives and tell them leave

Don’t Tell ,Don’t ask , alone!

What they are prohibited from doing is flaunting their sexuality. The Pentagon’s policy guidelines on homosexuals in the Military state:

“Sexual orientation will not be a bar to service unless manifested by homosexual conduct. The military will discharge members who engage in homosexual conduct, which is defined as a homosexual act, a statement that the member is homosexual or bisexual, or a marriage or attempted marriage to someone of the same gender.”

It’s open homosexuality that the military prohibits. Ike Skelton, the leading House Democrat on military policy, opposes repealing the policy. So does John McCain, who responded to the president’s decision by defending DADT. He said, “This successful policy has been in effect for over 15 years, and it is well understood and predominantly supported by our military at all levels.”

contact at congress.org


13 posted on 02/02/2010 11:11:51 AM PST by Freddd
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To: jazusamo

You need to fire 90% of the Flag/General officers in today’s military. And about 75% of the birds too.


14 posted on 02/02/2010 11:12:03 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: XHogPilot

You’re going to have to answer to a lot of angry STRAIGHT sailors for that one!


15 posted on 02/02/2010 11:12:54 AM PST by Palladin (It's a new day in America. Welcome, Senator Brown.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

When Gays put their personal interest above that of the Unit, people get killed.


16 posted on 02/02/2010 11:13:55 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: jazusamo

YOu’re on a sub. It’s below surface for 6 months. One guy starts letting his wanker, (which is pierced and has chains attached to the cock ring) be displayed for all to see. he is in the bunk by you, and constantly is a problem. The Skipper puts a stop to it, but what’s done is done.

Do you want that crew who is now royally stressed by this one persons irresponsible behavior, his being a walking penis, to be in charge of our nation’s defense? Are they now as effective as they were before?

This will happen in the name of equality and human rights. Forget our rights to be free and have libery.

Anal sex is equal to the covenant of marriage.

I would summon this Admiral to the oval office and summarily retire him. Political Correctness is from the deepest pits of hell as it will kill the last Christian nation on earth.


17 posted on 02/02/2010 11:15:50 AM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz (HALLELUJAH)
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To: Freddd
Hopefully Ike Skelton can rally the conservative Dems to stop this.

Patrick Murphy introduced the bill to repeal, it'd be nice to see him defeated in November.

Murphy Watch

18 posted on 02/02/2010 11:16:26 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: RexBeach
This story is so gay.

Your comment is gay!

19 posted on 02/02/2010 11:17:18 AM PST by Isabel C.
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To: jazusamo

Just wait till the libs start screaming like banchees because the draft has to be reinstituted and their numbers come up. They should be careful of what they wish for... these things have unintended consequences.


20 posted on 02/02/2010 11:17:43 AM PST by Suz in AZ
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To: jazusamo
Someone like this better not go sashaying around the nuclear submarine Jimmy Carter:


21 posted on 02/02/2010 11:19:10 AM PST by Palladin (It's a new day in America. Welcome, Senator Brown.)
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To: jazusamo
The chairman of the Joint Chiefs Staff said he knows many will disagree about abandoning the "don't ask, don't tell" policy

Hopefully, a large number of senior leaders and senior NCOs will resign to make the point this is a BAD idea. At least Colin Powell, for all his faults, fought against it in '93.

22 posted on 02/02/2010 11:20:05 AM PST by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: US Navy Vet

!!!!!


23 posted on 02/02/2010 11:20:42 AM PST by Palladin (Don't ask, don't tell--just run like HELL!)
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To: jazusamo

Mullen, get the hell out of the service, you dumb SOB


24 posted on 02/02/2010 11:23:16 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: massgopguy
When Gays put their personal interest above that of the Unit, people get killed.

Sadly, our warfighters are going to experience that first-hand. I am so damn glad I'm already retired from military... and that GWB signed my retirement certificate.

25 posted on 02/02/2010 11:23:16 AM PST by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

Such a “walking penis” would no doubt have an untimely accident and be thrown out on his rear.


26 posted on 02/02/2010 11:23:42 AM PST by Palladin (Don't ask, don't tell--just run like HELL!)
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To: jazusamo
I wouldn't let my daughters enter the military if they had to bunk, shower and be ogled by men. I won't let my son enter the military if he had to bunk, shower and be ogled by queers.

I can imagine an openly gay military to be quite a draw for the gender challenged.

27 posted on 02/02/2010 11:24:25 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: pissant

Mullen is just another perfumed prince.

Or is that perfumed princess now?


28 posted on 02/02/2010 11:24:53 AM PST by Palladin (Don't ask, don't tell--just run like HELL!)
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To: pissant
Mullen, get the hell out of the service, you dumb SOB

AMEN!

29 posted on 02/02/2010 11:25:16 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Isabel C.

This whole thread is gay!


30 posted on 02/02/2010 11:26:46 AM PST by RexBeach ("Those are my principles...if you don't like them, I have others." Groucho Marx)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz
Political Correctness is from the deepest pits of hell as it will kill the last Christian nation on earth.

Which is exactly what the Left wants. This is why our enemies -- from the Soviets in the Cold War to al Qaeda today -- traditionally and openly come out is support of democrats at election time. They know the dems will in time destroy the nation, thereby saving them the trouble.

31 posted on 02/02/2010 11:27:26 AM PST by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: jazusamo

Gads even the chief of the joint chiefs is all for these active perverts in our volunteer military. I imagine there are some, now, but they keep a low profile. All this homosexual junk is pushed and pushed...it’s just a shame the public abortion clinics were not open to their mothers.


32 posted on 02/02/2010 11:27:40 AM PST by tillacum
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To: jazusamo

Will gay marrieds have to have separate housing?


33 posted on 02/02/2010 11:31:28 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: jazusamo

Well, this government is already full of pouffters at the very top. It may as well be full of them all the way to the bottom.


34 posted on 02/02/2010 11:33:38 AM PST by Gritty (Without virtue, there can be no political liberty - John Adams)
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To: Deb

What a fiasco if this is repealed. Gay marrieds will be a huge problem.


35 posted on 02/02/2010 11:35:19 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Since the old bill has to be repealed and a new one passed, I can’t believe the Democrats are suicidal enough to vote for it. If they do they’ll be gone in November and the new Congress will strike it.


36 posted on 02/02/2010 11:43:02 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

Yes, the Dems are in trouble already for this November according to these recent three elections. It’s unbelievable they are bringing this up now, it can’t help them and like you say the new Congress can strike it.


37 posted on 02/02/2010 11:52:01 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

The leftists are so predictable, tax and spend vampire like creatures with an obsession with homosexuals prancing about in military uniforms.

time to Drive a stake through their red commie hearts and don’t forget to do something about our fellow “citizens” who keep voting for these Marxist sons of bitches


38 posted on 02/02/2010 12:15:59 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: screaminsunshine

“Fire him.”

+1


39 posted on 02/02/2010 12:41:09 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: XHogPilot

Ok Mr. Zoomie...;-)

Some of us might believe you’d prefer to ride that Hog side-saddle...hehehe

Ain’t professional rivalry fun???


40 posted on 02/02/2010 1:35:47 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: Freddd

Some people here should read the UCMJ...Sodomy is an offense...

I remember when I was in the service and this issue was being reviewed...They had every damn flag ranking officer testifying before congress on this and not one time did they take depositions from those of us in the trenches so to speak...WE were the ones that were going to have to deal with this issue directly...And a few of us tried to make that point up our chain of command...

We were ignored...So now look what we have...


41 posted on 02/02/2010 1:41:13 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: jazusamo
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42 posted on 02/02/2010 5:53:46 PM PST by rm7.62x39 (silence is your consent)
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To: rm7.62x39

So have you heard of women soldiers refusing to shoot a terrorist because he’s a hunk? This is getting pretty silly.


43 posted on 02/02/2010 8:20:13 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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