Posted on 02/02/2010 11:15:04 AM PST by Red Steel
WASHINGTON -- The military's top uniformed officer on Tuesday made an impassioned plea for allowing gays to serve openly in uniform, telling a Senate panel it was a matter of integrity and that it is wrong to force people to "lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens."
The comments by Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, set the stage for the military's yearlong study into how the ban can repealed without causing a major upheaval to the fighting forces.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates, appearing with Mullen before the Armed Services Committee, announced plans to loosen enforcement rules involving the "don't ask, don't tell" policy that has been in effect since 1993.
President Barack Obama has called for a repeal of the policy, a move that require congressional action. If he succeeds, it would mark the biggest shake up to military personnel policies since President Harry S. Truman's 1948 executive order integrating the services.
"No matter how I look at the issue," Mullen said, "I cannot escape being troubled by the fact that we have in place a policy which forces young men and women to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens." Noting that he was speaking for himself and not for the other service chiefs, Mullen added: "For me, it comes down to integrity - theirs as individuals and ours as an institution."
Sen. John McCain, the ranking Republican on the panel, publicly bristled at the Pentagon's decision to the study, saying he is "deeply disappointed" and calling the assessment "clearly biased" because it presumes the law should be changed.
Has this policy been ideal? No, it has not," McCain said. "But it has been effective."
Several other Republicans
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No Navy admiral (or Air Force general) should ever be made head of the JCS. That responsibility should be left to the Army or the Marines. Or barring that, to the Coast Guard.
Very funny, and oh so right. De Oppresso Liber.
No General, he’s an admiral.
“So the Navy wants homos......”
Please note that Mullen said he was speaking for himself not for the other service chiefs. The CNO hasn’t come out either way yet. Mullen is the CJCS not the CNO.
i have that song as a ring tone for my nephew who is currently serving in the navy aboard the enterprise. he finds it hilarious and his wife thinks it’s cool.
No, the fact that this is coming from a Naval Officer shouldn’t surprise anybody. Now once again, it’s time for the Marine Corps to step up and quash this. ALL we need to do is make sure this doesn’t get changed until the after the next congress is seated and it will not get done. Less than 12 months to go.
Why not “Anchors Aweigh”?....................
“No Navy admiral (or Air Force general) should ever be made head of the JCS. That responsibility should be left to the Army or the Marines. Or barring that, to the Coast Guard.”
Except that the Marines are a Department of the Navy. There are whack jobs in all branches. Clearly this Admiral has no clue what it’s like to be a an enlisted on a combatant vessel. I do.
Please note that Mullen said he was speaking for himself not for the other service chiefs. The CNO hasn’t come out either way yet. Mullen is the CJCS not the CNO.
Got it. But he is an Admiral - correct? From the Navy - correct? But it is his opinion only? Got it.
Except that the Marines are a Department of the Navy.
The Marines are older than the Navy, think in the spirit of Hope and Change that we can the Dept of Navy and replace it with the Dept of the Marine Corps.
A bumper sticker for sale at a local gun show reads:
The Marine Corps is a department of the Navy. The men's department.
It amused me, but I didn't bring it home. My dad retired as a Commander in the Navy. My son served in the USMC.
Really? Did we bring the draft back? Do we still ask people at MEPS if they're homosexuals?
No? Then we aren't forcing anyone to do any such thing, Rear Admiral Mullen.
And Face it, the Homo's will eventually pair up and have sex in the foxholes(or bunks in the navy)while the straight men will be denied such companionship.
How's that for creating Esprit De Corps
“The Marines are older than the Navy, think in the spirit of Hope and Change that we can the Dept of Navy and replace it with the Dept of the Marine Corps.”
You’re one of THOSE guys. Big chip on the shoulder and totally about all things Marines.
I respect most Marines, and enjoy trading jabs. But, there are the few, the nutty, the ones without a grip on reality.
Mullen's is wrong, NOBODY has to lie, you just do not talk about it. Only a really disgusting man sits around and discusses his sex life with his wife in any detail. As for the Navy wanting gays, brother, the Corps has more than it's share of homos, male and female. I can no more picture two male Chiefs dancing and kissing at the Khaki Ball than I can two male Marines dancing and kissing at the Marine Corps Ball.
The real problem which Mullen's will not see or will not talk about is the life style this will bring to the military. Will gays married in MA be considered legal dependents. What about gays from states with no gay marriage provisions. Will a gay member with a transsexual lover be allowed to marry in a Base Chapel? How will Fleet and Family Services or MCCS deal with those issue. Will gay members be allowed to dress as a woman after duty hours? Will none gays be FORCED to berth with gays or will they be allowed to object. Will that lead to segregation? What about open relationships on a ship? What about Chaplains whose church or faith are openly against the gay lifestyle? Will they be forced to ignore their faith or resign their commission? What about the number of suicides and spread of STDs prevalent in the gay life style? Now the only people that will not join are those whose faith tells them that the gay lifestyle is wrong and a sin. If they believe that they will not be allowed to join because they will no longer fit in Mullen's diverse Navy. Will gays become a protected class in the military like women where after tailhook? It took years to get back to the point where every sexual harassment compliant did not start with an assumption of guilt. I do not mean to be crude, but this is about more than where a man puts his tools after work and what a women prefers to eat on her own time. It is about back dooring (pun intended) legalized federal gay marriages, acceptance of a LIFESTYLE and social engineering in the military. Imagine gay pride week on military bases, banning of the boy scouts on bases, the absolute silencing of any opposition in the military ranks, with threats of UCMJ and discharge, for refusing to accept a LIFESTYLE condemned in the Bible. There is NO proof homosexuality is genetic like you know, being black or a female. The goal is to forcing everyone to accept this as normal.
So what is next, obese people, reformed criminals and former drug addicts, those are all lifestyle choice as well. I have served with Gays in the Navy and Corps. Before don't ask, don't tell and since. I did not report a senior Marine Officer that was gay in the 80's, I did not report numerous enlisted/officer gays over the last 10 years. "Don't ask, Don't tell" works far better. Although I do not approve of the life style, but I have the option to ignore it. 56% are against this nationwide. We need to mobilize and hand Obama and Mullen's a resounding defeat!
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There is more to this than just allowing gays in the military. They are opening the door for an activist agenda within the ranks. Benefits for a gay partner are next, such as:
Servicememember’s Group Life Insurance (SGLI)
Base Housing
Medical and Dental for gay dependent
Accompanied Tours with gay partner
Benefits normally associated with the military family will now be fought for by gay rights activist. Do not take this lightly.
And Mike Mullen has never--ever--seen any combat. He is 63! How does a man like him get to such a position with no actual combat experience? Ass-kissing and politics. The very kind of brown-nosing prick that Patton despised.
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