Skip to comments.Palin's got Ohio on her mind
Posted on 02/03/2010 3:27:35 AM PST by euram
Sarah Palins political action committee has been selective and strategic in its donations to candidates over the past six months, but if money is any indication of where her heart lies, her political loyalties can be traced to Ohio.
While SarahPAC has devoted just 5 percent of its total expenditures over that period to fellow GOP colleagues, four of the 17 candidates Palin contributed to hail from Ohio the state where she held by far the most presidential campaign events in 2008, according to The Washington Posts candidate tracker.
The former Alaska governor and 2008 vice presidential nominee gave $5,000 to former GOP Rep. John Kasich, whos running for Ohio governor; $3,500 to former Rep. Rob Portman, whos running for the states open Senate seat; $1,000 to Rep. Jean Schmidt; and $1,000 to state auditor Mary Taylor, whom Kasich recently tapped to be his running mate.
A GOP source familiar with Palins thinking said most of these candidates solicited Palins support. She feels there is a real chance to turn the tide in Ohio, said the source.
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Crucial swing state.
I can appreciate that she wants to visit the high population centers but these are exactly the places that she very probably won't win. A better strategy might be to visit the rural districts and make a strong effort to strengthen her brand name there. These are her people. These are the Christian, right wing, pro-life, conservative types that she needs to connect with, that she needs to convince that she isn't just a pretty face. She has a chance here but it isn't a given that she will win here by any means. These are hard times in Ohio and there's a lot of hard choices in store for Ohioans. Ohio isn't in the mood for BS.
9:15 am Palin rally in Lakewood, Ohio, in 2008.
Lakewood, that’s around Cleveland. She lost Cuyahoga county buy about 260,000 votes in 2008 - 69% Obama/Biden to 30% McCain/Palin. She won’t do much better in 2012. She needs to pick her battles here very wisely.
The key areas are the swing districts, which are usually the suburban areas just outside the metro areas.
By hitting Metro areas you get the most media play into the burbs and exurbs.
What are you talking about, the article said that she gave money to Ohio conservative politicians, nothing about her visiting high populated areas.....
She may be building some political capital with potential politicians winning and getting their support if she runs in 2012, but there is no mention by Politico or people familiar with her thinking said anything of the sort.
Obama and Ted Strickland have done a masterful job of helping Ohioans forget what a disaster Square Bob Sponge Tax Taft was a a GOP governor. Kasich wins the Governor’s Mansion and Portman takes over Rinovich’s senate seat. Sarah rightly sees Ohio conservatives on the rise and she equally understands the significance of Ohio in 2012. It would not surprise me at all to see either kasich or Portman tabbed to be the Veep candidate by the `12 nominee.
I honestly think she is damaged goods between the media bashing her, stepping down as Governor and other missteps since she left office. Too bad because i do like her i just cannot see her winning the general election
Wow, you are a classic "concern troll" you have never posted anything in favor of Palin, I did not see a single pro Palin post in your entire history, but there was a lot of the "concern troll" postings about her, just exactly like that one.
On the other hand you seem to be a Romneybot, playing the reverse part of "concern troll" by always just slightly bumping him in spite of his 'imperfections'.
You were against Palin before she was even chosen (June 2008) and you never changed, the "concern troll" style is shallow.
Thank-you SarahPac! Yes I feel it this year. Everyone here is upset over what has happened to us.We are speaking out loudly and often about what the left and the dems have done to us. No more Mr Nice guy around here.A year ago people used to tell us we didn’t know what we were talking about, now most of them are listening and agreeing the ones that don’t scurry away quickly without even a word.I seriously doubt if there is more than 20% turnout for Dems in 2010 they are so demoralized.
BTW I am in Ohio too.
I saw a lot of Palin, er, McCain signs in Lakewood back then. It’s still got a good number of Pubs on the north part and is close to Rocky River, which has even more. Good to wade in close to Cleveland just to let them know she’s nearby.
i just call them as i see them pal
you dont like it you resort to name calling
argued like a classic three year old
What I did was show that you are lying.
You have always been anti Palin, yet you have consistently pretended to be a ‘concerned fan’ that unhappily discovers some fatal flaw, just exactly like you did on this thread.
You also play the role in reverse for Mitt Romney, where you consistently pretend to accidentally find the selling points for him.
ooo still name calling eh
ok i shall stoop to elementary school level with you
I’m rubber your glue anything you say to me sticks to glue lol
to be honest i dont like Romney at all and would prefer a Governor like McConnell in VA. Not that you asked but if you look at some of my other posts (apparently you have a lot of time on your hands and are obsessed with me) i have noted that i would like the nomination to go to someone that isnt exactly on the national radar. As i recall most of the time when i spouted off factoids about either Romney or Palin it was in reference to an article that either referenced them specifically or about potential 2012 nominees based on those who have also ran.
oh and good luck with that immaturity thing you got going on there
It isn’t name calling, it is revealing that you have a dishonest posting style that amounts to a lie.
You have never supported Palin, yet you have post after post of ‘concern troll’ type posting like you tried on this thread, on the other hand you have much good to say about Mitt Romney and it is given in a manner that also seems like it is always spontaneous and delivered for almost the first time, like you just came to some fresh pleasant thought about him.
I notice that you aren’t showing me that I’m wrong, instead you merely shifted to the name calling and childishness about glue and elementary school.
AGain i call them as i see them pal.
have i said anything dishonest? did she step down as Governor of Alaska? yep. Has she been tarnished by an unfair and ruthless anti- Palin media campaign? yep
do i honestly think these hurt her chances for President? yep
I initally loved her as the VP pick. it was tactically ingenious and really threw the Dems for a loop. However the media assault on her took a toll of which i think would be incredibly difficult if not impossible to overcome
you dont like facts and want to call them lies and me a liar that is your prerogative but it is name calling and immature.
just because i may or may not have posted anything nice about someone does not automatically mean i like or dislike them either. i am merely adding content to the debate and call it as i see it. if you cannot handle that and want to call people liars well that is your business.
That's just it, you do not call them as you see them, instead your style is to pretend to be something that you are not.
This is your consistent method of bashing Governor Palin, you pretend to be concerned, "I honestly think she is damaged goods between the media bashing her, stepping down as Governor and other missteps since she left office. Too bad because i do like her i just cannot see her winning the general election".
You have always posted against Palin and you usually pretend to like her or to have supported her.
This is typical of your standard Palin post:
i really think Palin is going to be damaged goods despite my fondness for her. she is going to be labeled as a quitter that could not cut it and i think that the squishy middle of AMerican politics will believe it.
if anyone can derail either Romney or Huckabee it will probably be some under the radar governor thats just my take who knows what will happen
44 posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:00:58 AM by DM1
You do the reverse with Mitt Romney, here is a typical example of that:
there are some parallels between the Reagan campaign and Romney (before anyone flips out i am comparing the campaigns not the people nor their conservative bonafides). Romney ran a pretty strong second last time around as Reagan did in 76. Not as strong as Reagan mind you but a good run.
Romeny is keeping his team intact. they meet quarterly if not monthly and he keeps his PACs going as well. the infrastructure is still there. He campaigns for GOPers.
He has deep pockets and connections to other deep pockets. Do i hope he will be the nominee? heck no i am just saying that he is well positioned for another run and has a decent shot at the nomination. especially if there are a ton of people vying for the nomination kind of like how McCain pulled it off this time around
48 posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:35:52 AM by DM1
Wow you really do have spare time and i am flattered but a little worried about your obvious obsession with me ;) but let us review
yeah those are me calling them as i see them
I really do think Palin is damaged goods for the squishy middle unless Obama’s numbers get so bad it wont matter who the GOP nominates. she is going to be under a relentless assault as someone who did not even finish her term as Governor as well as all the other points i just made.
the post regarding Romney i believe was responding to a post about how the GOP nomination typically goes to someone who ran before like Reagan, Dole, Bush Sr, McCain and Nixon.
so yes indeed i do call them as i see them. You dont want to believe my sincerity thats fine, just get over your self-righteousness and relax.
She lost Cuyahoga county buy about 260,000 votes in 2008 - 69% Obama/Biden to 30% McCain/Palin.
Hmmmmm..Cuyahoga county...that county with its eastern precincts reporting voting at 113-117% of registered voters...that Cuyahoga county??? ;)
As a concern troll for Palin, why don’t you show us your enthusiastic postings for her, from before she broke your heart and you had to turn against her?
I can show you many of your (reverse) concern troll postings on Romney where you just manage to always find the sun light for him.
The point of all this, is that you can start posting out in the open and quit playing games.
Learn to just call them as you see them.
ah well i am calling them as i see them
I am hoping for a fresh face in actuality though the jury is still out on the new VA Governor i have hopes for him. I also like what i see with THune and DeMint though i have no idea if either is even considering running.
again i reiterate any of my posts favorable to Romney or disparaging to Palin were in context to either previous posts or in relation to the article. i was either voicing concerns or relaying comparisons. you are a little bit over emotional my friend. AGain everything i have stated was true not a lie as you claim so get over yourself try to separate your emotions and maybe you could strive to be a better person
You have post after post of saying how much you love Palin BUT....
So show me one or two of your loving, pro Palin posts that doesn’t have the concern trolls BUT... included. Go ahead and look all the way back to your first mention (negative) of her in June 0f 2008.
Now look at your scathing (just kidding) Romney post of four days ago.
there are some parallels between the Reagan campaign and Romney (before anyone flips out i am comparing the campaigns not the people nor their conservative bonafides).
Romney ran a pretty strong second last time around as Reagan did in 76. Not as strong as Reagan mind you but a good run.
Romeny is keeping his team intact. they meet quarterly if not monthly and he keeps his PACs going as well. the infrastructure is still there.
He campaigns for GOPers.
He has deep pockets and connections to other deep pockets.
Do i hope he will be the nominee? heck no i am just saying that he is well positioned for another run and has a decent shot at the nomination. especially if there are a ton of people vying for the nomination kind of like how McCain pulled it off this time around
48 posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:35:52 AM by DM1
lol and around around we go
what are you anyway a “Palinbot” - think she can do no wrong or is a Saint.
Honestly get over yourself.
Do you post every thought or opinion in every post? Do you?
i honestly think she is damaged goods
personally i like her but i dont think she could win a general national election as things stand now. could that change? maybe
you want me to post something nice about her to make you feel better? ok here we go
She knocked out that weasel Murkowski and made a great speech at the RNC in 2008
i like her conservative bonafides and admire the fact that she chose to keep her Down Syndrome son. we had a Down Syndrome family member so i felt a sort of connection and admiration to her there. I also have a signed copy of her book but i have not read it yet.
feel better now? this is no way changes my opinion that i think she cannot win a general election and that i would like some fresh faces to emerge who can win.
honestly get over your obsession with me i really did not think my opinions mattered to you that much.
You are not going to find anybody that electrifies the crowds like Sarah! She is a once in a generation candidate.
If you would just read one of my posts then you would know what I am saying, you use a fake style of posting called “concern troll”, just start posting in the open and quit lying about things like how you used to like Palin but.....
Also quit lying in the other direction about Mitt, telling us you don’t like him, but man let me tell you all these good things about him.
she does indeed inspire the base there is no question about that
i dont like mitt i think he is a disingeneous flip flopper. I also dont like his MassHealth plan and think both of these hurt him in a national general election. also i am not so sure about how his religion would play nationally.
I am being sincere in all posts
you obviously cannot accept that fact and again are showing signs of obsession with me
oh and incidentally i guess i can start calling you a liar as well. you said you did not name call then point out that you indeed were calling me a “concern troll”. only thing i am concerned about right now is your mental health. this obsession with me and my posts - seek some treatment my friend.
Well, don’t you think that she is “awesome”?
Cuyahoga county Presidential election results, 19602008
2008: 68.50% 441,836-30.44% 196,369
2004: 66.57% 448,503-32.89% 221,600
2000: 62.62% 359,913-33.42% 192,099
1996: 60.75% 341,357-29.15% 163,770
1992: 52.72% 337,548-29.24% 187,186
1988: 58.79% 353,401-40.33% 242,439
1984: 55.65% 362,626-43.60% 284,094
1980: 50.02% 307,448-41.47% 254,883
1976: 56.03% 349,186-41.01% 255,594
1972: 48.15% 317,670-49.94% 329,493
1968: 53.95% 363,540-35.44% 238,791
1964: 71.50% 492,911-28.50% 196,436
1960: 59.83% 429,030-40.17% 288,056
I have demonstrated and made clear that anyone that chooses to look at your posting history will indeed see you using the “concern troll” method to attack Governor Palin.
and i have demonstrated and made clear that you like to name call
i also have said nothing that isnt true instead of challenging them you just say “you like Romney you liar liar pants on fire” lol honestly how old are you anyway like 12
you have a lie detector hooked up to me somewhere
get over yourself
What you haven’t demonstrated and made clear is that period of posting where you supported Palin or defended Palin without the concern troll buts..., I can post many, many of your “concern troll” postings where you claim that she is liked by you or that you think she is “awesome” or so on, but they are all about bashing her “concern troll” style.
Just for curiosity’s sake, do you think that you have promoted any candidate more than you have Mitt Romney?
instead of refuting anything i have said your response is “you like Romney” “you like Romney!” like some deranged Parrot
lol really now
i believe i stated i like the new VA governor but the jury was still out and that i am looking at DeMint and Thune though i am not sure who will run
I am going to look at candidates as they emerge as far as i can tell no one has officially announced anything have they.
only reason I comment on Palin, Romney or Huckabee is because the focus seems to be on them. i think Huckabee has no chance due to the recent cop shootings related to someone he let out on parole (rightly or wrongly the attack ads write themselves), i think Palin would energize the base but i dont think she wins over a majority of the squishy middle and that Romney would be tagged as a flipflopper with a horrible health care plan.
well this has been fun i just wish you had more to say to my reasoned arguments than “You like Romney!” i do feel as though i am talking to a parrot
You simply choose to ignore the revelation of your “concern troll” tactics.
I asked you a question that should be very easy to answer since you don’t like Mitt Romney. Do you think that you have promoted any other candidate more than you have Mitt Romney?
i wasnt aware that i was “promoting” anyone what am i Don King
where are your well reasoned rebuttals to any of my statements - oh yeah thats right here they are “You’re a concern troll you like Romney” just like the parrot lol
in summation i would like to say that i call them as i see them, your delusional name calling of “concern troll/Romney liker” are redundant, immature and at this point boring.
again i have commented on Palin, Romney and Huckabee because of articles or posts related to them at one point or another. when other candidates emerge i will comment on them as i see them as well
you can accept this or not parrot, i just really think you need to calm yourself. your emotions will be your undoing.
By refusing to answer this simple question repeatedly “Do you think that you have promoted any other candidate more than you have Mitt Romney?” you show that you know the answer to it.
That is good, because I knew the answer before I asked you the question.
If she’s looking for enthusiasm and large crowds she need to come to Butler and Warren counties. The largest Tea Party crowds in the state are here.
Hold a rally with the Tea Party at Voice of America in West Chester and see how many show up.
If she didn’t draw 50,000 I would be shocked. Bush drew that the last time he was here and she’s more popular. Put her together with Kasich, Portman and Chabot and you might get 100,000.
You can’t hide of FR.
I love all the bickering here. To be honest though,after having McPain jammed down our throat a clown off the street could win Ohio. All my relatives that are tried and true Dems and Union members are sick of the government in general and ready to vote anyone with a brain and a pulse in. We need new blood in office and all I see are the same old names floated around. Romney, Huckabee give me a break. They had their chance and blew it. Time to vote in Joe the Plumber.
I’m sure. I think she better be ready for a fight in Ohio. I’m not convinced that she can win here. That won’t sit well with her fans of course but, realistically, I don’t see the map changing that much for her, not to the tune of another 260,000+ votes at least. She may want to consider a strategy that doesn’t require an Ohio win. The good news is we lost 2 electoral votes so it won’t be as big of a hit. That plus the five extra EVs from Florida and Texas will help.
well you again eh
i believe i did answer all your repeated questions there parrot man - honestly i expect the next phrase you post to be “Polly want a cracker or something”
I reiterate one more time and maybe just maybe it will sink in: I AM NOT PROMOTING ANY CANDIDATE AT THIS POINT MERELY CALLING THEM AS I SEE THEM
Lets call them the Big Three shall we - Palin, Romney and Huckabee as far as i know all three may or may not want to run (at this point i would say they do but unlike you Professor X i cannot read minds).
i point out weaknesses or strengths related to articles or posts
live with this as an honest answer or go back to fantasy land where you apparently live and think you hold all the answers to the universe
once again you tend to ignore my statement which means apparently that you have no answer but just in case
Have i posted anything that is not true? by your lack of answering that statement and refusing to refute anything i have said in detail than this means you agree with me.
so thank you parrot man and try to have a good day
You really don’t understand, all I did was out you as a phony type poster, You promote Romney and attack Palin and you do both of them behind a veil of fake motivations.
What we call a concern troll. Support who you want, just do it in the open. You don’t like Palin, so just say that, don’t play like you do except for.........etc.
actually it appears that you dont understand
i promote no one just call it as i see it
you have yet to refute one item therefore you surrendered the argument and got down to name calling
anyhow i truly hope you have a nice day i realize this may be difficult due to your obsession with my posts but please do try for your own sake
LOL, I don't know what to say, OK you don't promote but you "see them and call them" like a "concern troll" as you "call it as you see it" for Palin and "call it as you see it" for Mitt Romney, all while concealing behind a veil of "concern troll" type hemming and hawing.
I get it now! you are an Obamabot Troll! it is so clear now
you Promote Palin because you dont think she can win a general election! Clever my friend clever!
why not be honest and say you like Obama and want him to win!
Note: this makes as much sense as your ConcernTroll name calling does to me
From my vantage point, Tom Moe had a rough time trying to coordinate anything Ohio with the National McCain 2008 campaign buffoons. Not surprisingly, today, the same buffoons who screwed-up the McCain 2008 campaign eagery bash Palin. And frankly, given the baffoons that McCain selected to coordinate his National campaign; I consider it a peek into just how awful a McCain Presidency, combined with a ‘Rat Congress, could have been.
When timeliness mattered during the campaign, the baffoons wouldn’t call back. Time after time, the baffoons failed to deliver what they promised. For example, the Ohio Sportsmen for McCain kickoff in Lawrence County, McCain 2008 cancelled it without telling anyone in Ohio. Despite issuing a press release requesting coverage. Dick Stobbs, our GOP candidate for Congress, was left to pick up the pieces with a hostile local news media, expecting live feed to their National affiliates.
So for southern Ohio, McCain signs gathered dust in the local campaign offices. Team 0bama was so convinced southern Ohio was all locked up, they didn’t bother to open campaign offices.
Then in a blind squirrel finding a nut moment; McCain selected Governor Palin as a running mate. It was Palin who did well for McCain south of I-70, she drew the huge crowds.
And Governor Palin energized the base. After Palin, we ran out of campaign signs. And because of Palin, the 0bamabots were even forced to open an Ironton campaign office.
Then reverting to true form, McCain voted for TARP. Had McCain opposed the bailout, he could have won south of I-70 Ohio. After TARP, “McCain - Palin” signs were now seen with duct tape across McCain’s name; and many others came down.