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GOP finds loophole in reconciliation ploy [Death of a thousand amendments to ObamaCare]
The Hill ^ | 2/3/10 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 02/03/2010 9:11:13 AM PST by Nachum

As it turns out, Senate Democrats may not be able to force healthcare legislation through the chamber on a simple majority vote.

Republicans say they have found a loophole in the budget reconciliation process that could allow them to offer an indefinite number of amendments.

Though it has never been done, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) says he’s prepared to test the Senate’s stamina to block the Democrats from using the process to expedite changes to the healthcare bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; congress; demint; fascism; gop; healthcare; loophole; obama; obamacare; overide; ploy; reconciliation; republicans; scf; strategery
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Time to get a good supply of popcorn for this one.
1 posted on 02/03/2010 9:11:14 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Is there a loophole in the Constitution which allows a person born in, say, Kenya, to become President of the United States?


2 posted on 02/03/2010 9:13:08 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("My...health care plan is a Bolshevik plot... which will destroy America." - Barack Obama)
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To: Nachum

“DeMint said he’s ready to try anything.”

Liking this guy more and more everyday!


3 posted on 02/03/2010 9:15:31 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

There does indeed seem to be a loophole that allows an interim appointed “senator” to continue voting even after his successor has been duly elected by the people.


4 posted on 02/03/2010 9:17:33 AM PST by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
You were saying ...

Is there a loophole in the Constitution which allows a person born in, say, Kenya, to become President of the United States?

There's a loophole that doesn't require a birth certificate to be shown... :-)

That's why I've been advocating that the states pass legislation making it mandatory in that state for a candidate to produce his birth certificate or else he cannot be on the ballot in that state. That would close up that loophole in the Constitution...

5 posted on 02/03/2010 9:18:10 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Nachum

I think the pubbies are looking for a loop hole that would allow this to go through but make the pubblies look like innocent victims. Scum! All of them! They ALL must go!


6 posted on 02/03/2010 9:21:29 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: Nachum
"Democrats could try to persuade Republican colleagues to back down and withdraw their amendments after several hours or days of voting. With a unified Democratic conference, Reid would need just one GOP senator to cut off the process."

Perhaps the other way is true also. Senators like Lincoln and Nelson in order to try to garner some goodwill back home in their states could vote with Republicans on this one so that having Snowe back down is a moot point.
7 posted on 02/03/2010 9:22:50 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Star Traveler
I say to Sen DeMint - LOL You diabolical scoundrel! I am with you all the way...

Besides - Some drugstore in DC will run low on tylenol with all the headaches you will be giving Harry his Yesmen...

CSPAN will have to air ads for NoDoz!
8 posted on 02/03/2010 9:23:08 AM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Nachum

Bring a sniper rifle to a gun fight...


9 posted on 02/03/2010 9:23:14 AM PST by bigbob
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To: icwhatudo

DeMint is DA Man.

Senate Conservatives Fund (Jim DeMint PAC)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433733/posts


10 posted on 02/03/2010 9:25:13 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: Drill Thrawl

No, they’re not all scum. A good number of them are. But NOT all.


11 posted on 02/03/2010 9:25:52 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Nachum
Whatever it takes to kill this bill!

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12 posted on 02/03/2010 9:28:45 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

We shall agree to disagree.


13 posted on 02/03/2010 9:29:25 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: Drill Thrawl

I don’t agree to that.


14 posted on 02/03/2010 9:29:59 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Nachum

Why give them a head’s up about the loophole?


15 posted on 02/03/2010 9:30:35 AM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Drill Thrawl

DeMint’s a good guy. He is looking to stop it cold.


16 posted on 02/03/2010 9:31:26 AM PST by Soul Seeker (?)
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To: icwhatudo

I’ve been a fan of DeMint since a freeper recommended his book Saving Freedom.


17 posted on 02/03/2010 9:31:48 AM PST by sarasota
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To: tutstar; Nightshift

read later


18 posted on 02/03/2010 9:33:17 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
Is there a loophole in the Constitution which allows a person born in, say, Kenya, to become President of the United States?

The answer is self evident.

19 posted on 02/03/2010 9:39:42 AM PST by hattend (Mary Jo, this one's for you! (Thank you, Massachusetts - welcome back to the union))
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To: Nachum

Good for De Mint. The ‘leadership’ of McConnell and Boehner is pathetic at best and dangerous in most instances.

Let’s see more of DeMint and Pence


20 posted on 02/03/2010 9:42:22 AM PST by the long march
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To: Star Traveler

Thank you. That is exactly what we should be doing. These types of proactive solutions will go further than all of the other ‘stuff’


21 posted on 02/03/2010 9:43:36 AM PST by the long march
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To: Drill Thrawl

Since you live in a state that has routinely voted for Arlen I can see where you might think that

Look at De Mint and Pence and any number of other conservatives. Unless you want to try and elect the likes of Ron Paul everywhere, I suggest you wake up and find out who the good guys really are


22 posted on 02/03/2010 9:46:04 AM PST by the long march
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To: Drill Thrawl
I think the pubbies are looking for a loop hole that would allow this to go through but make the pubblies look like innocent victims. Scum! All of them! They ALL must go!

You should call into Mark Levin's show with this drivel. Opinions like this subsitiute for critical thinking these days.

23 posted on 02/03/2010 9:46:15 AM PST by pburgh01
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To: Nachum
What we need then is a crew of Good, Strong, Patriotic, Americans (not RINOS or Politicians) who are willing to face ridicule, abuse, name-calling, subterfuge, and dirty tricks to get to work on this NOW!
24 posted on 02/03/2010 9:51:18 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: Nachum
I like DeMint, however, I don't think it'll work.

This is the DEMS we're dealing with. Ain't a rule ever been created that they won't break or change to benefit themselves. So look for them to move to close any loopholes by changing the rules or procedures, whilst the state-controlled media demonizes the Republicans for being obstructionist and using dirty tactics.

That said, we can hope...

25 posted on 02/03/2010 9:59:36 AM PST by DJ Frisat (How's that change workin' out for ya, Obama voters?)
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To: Nachum

I’d like volunteer about 100 amendments for my new Senator from Massachusetts to propose.


26 posted on 02/03/2010 9:59:58 AM PST by AU72
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To: DJ Frisat

I’m not a Senate rules maven but I believe changing the rules in the middle of a session requires more than a simple vote.


27 posted on 02/03/2010 10:01:55 AM PST by AU72
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To: Nachum

28 posted on 02/03/2010 10:05:07 AM PST by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: Nachum

They won’t do this - pass “healthcare” in reconciliation. Not in an election year. I think this is all big talk to try to mollify their base whackos, but they’ll never try something this heinous in an election year.


29 posted on 02/03/2010 10:07:26 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: Nachum

We do spend a lot of time giving (often warranted) barbs to congressional/Senate Republicans, but through this 0bamacare mess, they’ve held together quite well. Yes, there was the little teaser thrown out by Olympia Snowe, but for the most part, they’ve done well.

Not to say the GOPers aren’t deserving of some well-placed criticism, but in THIS case, as a whole they’ve done well and stood strong.


30 posted on 02/03/2010 10:10:09 AM PST by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: Nachum

DeMint, you magnificent bastard!


31 posted on 02/03/2010 10:13:04 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: AU72

I’m not a Sentate rules maven, either, but have you been watching? Nothing is off-limits to them, the Constitution, Senate rules, nothing. A is not A with these people, it’s whatever they want it to be.

Who’s gonna stop them? The the judicial system? The DOJ?


32 posted on 02/03/2010 10:13:14 AM PST by DJ Frisat (How's that change workin' out for ya, Obama voters?)
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To: ichabod1

The Dont ask dont tell is to pacify their whacko’s


33 posted on 02/03/2010 10:26:42 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Star Traveler

I cannot believe no states have passed a law about the BC yet. Unreal.


34 posted on 02/03/2010 10:29:00 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Frantzie
You were saying ...

I cannot believe no states have passed a law about the BC yet. Unreal.

For some reason, it's not "sexy enough" for some conservatives, I think... LOL...

I mean, at least four states tried it last year and at least one that I've heard of is trying something like it again, this year, but beyond that -- this sort of law seems to be "DOA" in the minds of a lot of conservatives.

As I said, it seems to be not sexy enough for a lot of conservatives for some reason.

I just look at it in a strategic and structural sense, in that we should "fix it" anyway, no matter who it would affect.

35 posted on 02/03/2010 10:35:04 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: AU72

>>I’m not a Senate rules maven but I believe changing the rules in the middle of a session requires more than a simple vote.

First, rules do not apply to Dhimmi-rats. Second, the parliamentarian’s rulings are only advisory, Reid could simply ignore the ruling that allows the amendments.


36 posted on 02/03/2010 10:40:32 AM PST by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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To: Nachum

Thank you @JimDeMint !!!


37 posted on 02/03/2010 10:42:26 AM PST by fightinJAG (Largest wing in future Obama Presidential Library will be devoted to Bush & Cheney)
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To: Nachum
To assist the GOP in this important endeavor, I, the non-Senator from Western NY, rise in favor of the following amendments:

1. The Superbowl moves to Saturday, so that any potential hangover does not interfere with the productivity of American workers on a Monday.

2. The Buffalo Bills are given all draft picks for the next 10 years.

3. Creation of a new Federal holiday in honor of Jim ‘Machine Gun’ Kelly, #12, QB, and master of the hurry up offense.

4. That the USDA modify the food chart to show ‘Flutie Flakes’ breakfast cereal as an essential part of your daily diet.

5. The Department of Homeland Security to replace all staff with members of the Bills offensive line up from the 1990’s Superbowl years. Bruce Smith to be appointed head of DHS, because - hey, have you SEEN that guy?

6. For the FCC to label the phrases ‘wide right’ and ‘consecutive Superbowl losses’ as offensive language not permitted on Television.

7. Bills scoring drive victory song “Shout” to replace the National Anthem.

8. In the interest of furthering leadership in America, human cloning to remain illegal with the exception of head coach Marv Levy.

9. As a part of the Recovery and Reinvestment Act, the jumbo-tron at Ralph Wilson Stadium shall be tripled, beer taps installed at the end of each aisle, and tailgate-ready parking made free to the public. NO roof or related structure shall be permitted.

10. Creation of a Senate Subcommittee on the Buffalo Bills Cheerleading. An oversight and review board of the Buffalo Jills. It is important that these proud American young ladies dancing in the red, white, and blue of our great country are carefully selected and closely monitored. I, the non-senator of WNY offer my personal assistance in this regard.

38 posted on 02/03/2010 10:47:17 AM PST by Made In The USA (Home Depot should begin stocking up on pitchforks and torches.)
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To: Frantzie
I cannot believe no states have passed a law about the BC yet. Unreal.

If states followed their own rules, Sens. McCain and Obama wouldn't have even been on the ballot in Texas.

39 posted on 02/03/2010 10:48:11 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Nachum

About the only good use of a lawyer I have ever seen......


40 posted on 02/03/2010 10:48:58 AM PST by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

Ballast.


41 posted on 02/03/2010 10:50:28 AM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: Drill Thrawl

Grow up. If the GOP senators wanted this to pass over their objections, they could have done that anytime last year.


42 posted on 02/03/2010 10:56:11 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: Made In The USA

You’re an outight partisan!


43 posted on 02/03/2010 10:56:55 AM PST by alancarp (Calling all states: Reduce the cost of doing business and jobs will flock to your doors.)
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To: Nachum
As it turns out, Senate Democrats may not be able to force healthcare legislation through the chamber on a simple majority vote.

It's that "may not" part that worries me. You can bet the demscum has every legal mind and so-called "constitutional expert" working to find loopholes of their own.

These people hell-bent on turning America into the socialist mecca they envision and they won't stop until they reach that goal.

44 posted on 02/03/2010 10:57:28 AM PST by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: alancarp

oops: “outRight”. I guess Dolphin Phans can’t type.


45 posted on 02/03/2010 11:01:11 AM PST by alancarp (Calling all states: Reduce the cost of doing business and jobs will flock to your doors.)
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To: Made In The USA
2. The Buffalo Bills are given all draft picks for the next 10 years.

Bears, Lions, and Cleveland fans might have an issue with that one.

46 posted on 02/03/2010 11:02:38 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Thank-you Senators! Now please do it, go to the mat for us on his one and all of you will be rewarded in November with as many republicans as we can send to help you out. :)


47 posted on 02/03/2010 11:04:56 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: AU72

I’m thinking it takes a 2/3’s vote to change senate rules.


48 posted on 02/03/2010 11:08:43 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Nachum
How about bipartisanship? Obama says he wants to ‘fix’ things. You don't believe him? Why don't we trust him for once?

:) just funning, please dont ping me with FY

Amazing but dems can't give this lost battle up, this is their last chance to do health care in and they think they got so close to passing a bill it kills them.

49 posted on 02/03/2010 11:32:26 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: Nachum

bkmk


50 posted on 02/03/2010 11:33:57 AM PST by novemberslady
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