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Please, No More ‘Half-as-Much’ Republicans
Pajamas Media ^ | Feb. 3 | J. Robert Smith

Posted on 02/03/2010 9:21:51 AM PST by AJKauf

If 2010 proves to be a “wave” election for the GOP, conservatives can expect more than a few half-as-much Republicans to sweep into Congress. What’s a half-as-much Republican? One who’s willing to do half as much as liberals on big government initiatives. Guys like John McCain and his sidekick, Lindsey Graham, for instance. Or Maine’s Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe. Or departing Senator George Voinovich.

But there’s an effective way to put half-as-much Republicans on notice: defeat a couple of them in upcoming primaries, especially in high-profile Senate contests.

Sending a couple of half-as-muchers to summertime defeats would create quite a stir and cause other such critters, like Mark Kirk (IL) and Mike Castle (DE), to pause. Kirk and Castle are the likely GOP Senate nominees in their states. It would also be a shot across the bow of the GOP Senate leadership, which otherwise might generously want to accommodate its half-as-much brethren in the 112th Congress.....

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; enoughalready; gopcomeback; nomorerinos; rebuilding; rinos; romney

1 posted on 02/03/2010 9:21:52 AM PST by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf
It looks as though we may be successful in FL, unsuccessful already in IL.

I think in OH Rob Portman is pretty good---not perfect, but pretty good and a huge improvement over Voino. In PA, Toomey is a geometric improvement over Sphincter (yes, I know, he's a Dem now).

2 posted on 02/03/2010 9:25:31 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: AJKauf

"Did you hear that ..that..I'm a conservative! Are Republicans gullible, or not?"
3 posted on 02/03/2010 9:26:52 AM PST by Leisler (We are in the best of hands)
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To: AJKauf
I predict Scott Brown will turn out to be a "half as much" Pubbie. True, he may have stopped Obamanation's socialist medicine plan, but there's a lot more on the table than just that one issue.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

4 posted on 02/03/2010 9:28:46 AM PST by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: AJKauf
I appreciate every R Senator we have. No, I don't like what some of them do in regards to legislation but the Party who holds the most seats controls the committees. I lived in New England. The two R Senators from Maine would not be there if they were much more Conservative. Ditto Scott Brown. His victory was amazing considering the way Massachusetts has voted for decades. I will allow him some moderate views in light of his promise to stop Zero's Health Care Obamination. I suspect Illinois and Delaware are similar to New England.
5 posted on 02/03/2010 9:29:31 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: AJKauf

I think what we really need to do is find hard-core economic Republicans for those regions where Republican Republicans don’t fly. It’s the social issues that are so variable across states, with economic flabbiness more or less supported simply because a vigorous case isn’t made for shrinking government. Right now we’ve got economically flabby, socially liberal Republicans in those ‘Blue States’ where we have representation at all, and that’s what’s so frustrating.


6 posted on 02/03/2010 9:29:58 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: AJKauf
Sending a couple of half-as-muchers to summertime defeats would create quite a stir

As compared to what? Scott Brown taking the Swimmer's seat away from the Dems? Brown had a pro-lifer opposing him in the primary, and the guy got 12 percent.

Castle is the best option to win the Delaware Senate seat. But some would throw that away, failing to heed Buckley's maxim that you run the most conservative candidate possible who can win in a given race.

7 posted on 02/03/2010 9:30:23 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: AJKauf

At least the Republicans from conservative states should be conservative. I don’t really mind RINO’s from blue states as ‘icing on the cake’ when all the red states have their act together.


8 posted on 02/03/2010 9:31:18 AM PST by ari-freedom (Let me be clear: Obama sux)
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To: AJKauf
"...One who’s willing to do half as much as liberals on big government initiatives..."

That may well be, but if that is the case, I'll take a Senate full of half-as-much Republicans in favor of one that is run by a bunch of phakin' commie democrats.

9 posted on 02/03/2010 9:31:56 AM PST by skimbell
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To: wku man

“I predict Scott Brown will turn out to be a “half as much” Pubbie. True, he may have stopped Obamanation’s socialist medicine plan, but there’s a lot more on the table than just that one issue.”

the ‘populist’ also ran against the bank tax and won. That’s what we need: people who are for free trade and against screwing banks but drive trucks and willing to shake hands with people in the cold.


10 posted on 02/03/2010 9:34:31 AM PST by ari-freedom (Let me be clear: Obama sux)
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To: skimbell

>>That may well be, but if that is the case, I’ll take a Senate full of half-as-much Republicans in favor of one that is run by a bunch of phakin’ commie democrats. <<

Get ready to take lots of flak from the purists. The would rather have the Socialists run the country than allow one less-than-meeting-some-undefinable-Conservative-standard Republican in. And they did just that in 2008. I keep challenging them to explain to their children why we don’t have freedom anymore and how the Conservative Purity Test allowed that to happen.

As I repeat over and over: The perfect is the enemy of the good.


11 posted on 02/03/2010 9:36:10 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: AJKauf
GOP liberals are likely to give the Democrats a defacto majority in Congress again.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

12 posted on 02/03/2010 9:37:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: AJKauf

The bonus is that the mouth-breathers like tingly Chrissy Mathews and Olberdork would go completely apoplectic.


13 posted on 02/03/2010 9:37:40 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: AJKauf

Get rid of the RINOS and don’t elect any more.


14 posted on 02/03/2010 9:39:16 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freedumb2003
If they are true fiscal conservative Republicans, then yes I can live with moderate social views. But if they just me too Democrat clones, then "no."

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

15 posted on 02/03/2010 9:39:20 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ari-freedom
You may be right. But I know there are also issues such as immigration, abortion, gun rights, "alternative energy", where Brown's record/views are hazy to completely wrong.

I've heard it said "there are no perfect candidates". Well, if that's the mindset, then we can expect another batch of RINOs this November.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

16 posted on 02/03/2010 9:42:32 AM PST by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: AJKauf

I’d rather have a ‘half-as-much’ socially moderate Republican who was fiscally conservative(fair Tax) and strong on national defense rather than a bible thumping conservative who spends our tax money like they are on a drunk weekend at Las Vegas.

5,4,3,2,1.....incoming


17 posted on 02/03/2010 9:43:26 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Yes, Red Dog - Me too. I think that is why we got thwacked in 2006... Although I would not use the term Bible-thumping myself. But my 1st choice in 2008 was Rudy Giuliani - because the War on Terror is my #1 issue - Survival first...


18 posted on 02/03/2010 9:47:18 AM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: AJKauf

Senators like Hatch and Bennett in Utah.

Who can forget Orin Hatch giving his “good friend” Ted Kennedy’s eulogy for the whole world to see and hear?


19 posted on 02/03/2010 9:47:25 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: wku man

There’s no doubt that Brown is a moderate to put it nicely. However I don’t think we could expect much more than that in a politically hard left state.

It was a gain of inches but touchdowns are coming as well as setbacks.


20 posted on 02/03/2010 9:52:43 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

The baptist minister is leading early polls over the incumbent democrat by around 10 points in my district. Have no fear, he’s as fiscally conservative as they come and was a founding member of Michigan’s “NO caucus” due to thier no new taxes stance.


21 posted on 02/03/2010 9:56:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: AJKauf

It didn’t work in Illinois.


22 posted on 02/03/2010 9:57:00 AM PST by Charpentier
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To: wku man
I predict Scott Brown will turn out to be a "half as much" Pubbie

As Tip O'Neil once said "all politics is local".We must acknowledge that each state and Congressional District is different.Take Scott Brown as an example.He's already on record as being pro abortion.If he had been pro life,as many Republican Senators/Reps are,he wouldn't have stood a chance last month.Trust me.I live here.I know.

So it's likely that Brown will vote less "conservatively" than,say,Wyoming's...Tennessee's...or Georgia's Senators do but I promise you that he'll vote noticeably more reasonably than Coakley would have.And I also promise you that he was the *very* most "conservative" candidate that could have prevailed here last month.

Remember,all politics are local.So if you want Senators (or Reps) from Maine...Massachusetts....New York....California that are true "conservatives',true "Republicans" then you're gonna have to change the minds of a good number of the voters in those states/districts.

23 posted on 02/03/2010 10:03:37 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Charpentier

Nobody had heard of Hughes till about two weeks ago newbie.

However they did double his numbers in that time.


24 posted on 02/03/2010 10:04:52 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Michigan is a state that’s all over the place politically. We tend toward the GOP in house races with candidates that range from real Reagan conservatives to John Conyers. We seem to lean democrat in senate races obviously and the governor’s seat goes back and forth.


25 posted on 02/03/2010 10:11:00 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: freekitty
"...Get rid of the RINOS and don’t elect any more..."

OK, good idea! Yesterday in Illinois Mark Kirk-a R.I.N.O., was nominated as the Republican candidate to run against Alexi Giannoulias-the perfect example of a Chicago democrat, for 0's senate seat.

According to your logic, don't vote for Kirk. Simply let the dems have the seat huh?

Sorry, but as I see it, a moderate Republican-read R.I.N.O. by many, is far superior to socialist/communist democrat every time.

26 posted on 02/03/2010 10:11:13 AM PST by skimbell
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To: AJKauf

Yes, NOW is the time that the real work is done. Primaries. Get the best person for the job in there.


27 posted on 02/03/2010 10:14:17 AM PST by Persevero
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To: AJKauf; wardaddy; NerdDad
Here in the race for House Seat MS-1, Angela McGlowan is running for the seat from the Republican side. She has publicly stated she wants all personally owned weapons listed on the IRS forms when taxes are prepared. I guess she thinks she will receive the white guilt affirmative action vote for a celebrity votes. We do not need a gun control idiot on our side of the aisle. If a person is willing to send the 2nd Amendment down the tubes, then they are willing to send the rest of our freedoms there too.

I am betting the NRA will list her as an A also since they endorsed Childers here, knowing he was a gun grabbing liberal lefty.

28 posted on 02/03/2010 10:21:27 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Gay State Conservative

As Tip O’Neil once said “all politics is local”.

And I also promise you that he was the *very* most “conservative” candidate that could have prevailed here last month.

Well said. We must nominate the most conservative candidate that can WIN the election in that district. Success will breed success with the voters. The key is to knowing how far to push in each election.


29 posted on 02/03/2010 10:36:31 AM PST by super7man
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To: AJKauf
Support JD Hayworth over John McAmnesty here is AZ.
30 posted on 02/03/2010 11:07:38 AM PST by GrannyAnn
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To: Le Chien Rouge

I do believe Huck resembles that remark!


31 posted on 02/03/2010 11:10:42 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: AJKauf

I agree (whole-heartedly)!~


32 posted on 02/03/2010 3:11:08 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: cripplecreek

That’s true, but I would have hoped the Tea Party movement would have gotten behind the conservative candidate long before, just as they did Scott Brown in Massachusetts. I just don’t want to think that it’s all going to be a cakewalk to elect conservatives, then find out that we have John McCain or Graham from South Carolina or Gordon Smith from Oregon all over again. When those kind get into the Senate and the Republicans take it over, they will have that attitude that it’s all because of them and they should then run everything. That would be a disaster.


33 posted on 02/03/2010 4:11:31 PM PST by Charpentier
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To: GrannyAnn

I don’t know much about Hayworth but isn’t he supposed to be not much different from McCain? What can you tell me about Hayworth?


34 posted on 02/03/2010 4:12:14 PM PST by Charpentier
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