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N.C High Schools to Remove Pre-1877 U.S. History?
FoxNews.com ^ | February 3, 2010 | Molly Henneberg

Posted on 02/03/2010 7:09:53 PM PST by phi11yguy19

He may be the president who governed during the Civil War, freeing the slaves, but under a new curriculum proposal for North Carolina high schools, U.S. history would begin years after President Lincoln, with the presidency of Rutherford B. Hayes in 1877.

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Yet another sign of how much our education system has been hijacked! I guess the libs found it too difficult to rewrite our history so now they'll just erase it.

Any wonder why home-schooling is so popular now???

1 posted on 02/03/2010 7:09:53 PM PST by phi11yguy19
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To: phi11yguy19

I wonder what year Karl Marx was born?


2 posted on 02/03/2010 7:12:15 PM PST by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: phi11yguy19
Under the proposed change, the ninth-graders would take a course called global studies, focusing in part on issues such as the environment. The 10th grade still would study civics and economics, but 11th-graders would take U.S. history only from 1877 onward.

What the **** is "global studies"? Sounds like a course indoctrinating students in every leftist pet cause. The starting of history in 1877 is right out of 1984. Of course they want to start in 1877 since the is on the cusp of the Progressive Era and the start of Big Government repudiating the Founding Fathers.

3 posted on 02/03/2010 7:15:23 PM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

BINGO!


4 posted on 02/03/2010 7:16:47 PM PST by A. Morgan (The ONE is a BIG LIAR!)
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To: phi11yguy19

Way too many white guys to study and learn about before the year 1877 - - so, the obvious solution is to make it racially fair. Eliminate studying the all-white portion of American History. Only study the portion of history after the Black Man has been liberated and doing things that contribute to the formulation of the country. Makes sense? Well, I am sure to liberals it makes all the sense in the world.


5 posted on 02/03/2010 7:16:57 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: BallyBill

Karl Marx: 1818 - 1883


6 posted on 02/03/2010 7:17:01 PM PST by caper gal 1 (Prayers for Rush.)
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To: phi11yguy19; All

We are doing something similar in our district. We took the one year of 8th grade US history and made it 7th and 8th grade, moving world history to 6th grade.

They might just be splitting up the course work. Most teachers can’t get past WWII in any depth with the time and testing requirements we have.


7 posted on 02/03/2010 7:17:15 PM PST by Martel1971
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To: C19fan
Global studies is "world history". I had a year of that before I had American history. And that was 25^H^H 15 years ago.

as long as we're rewriting history ....

8 posted on 02/03/2010 7:17:18 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: phi11yguy19

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TEACH THEM ABOUT OUR REVOLUTIONARY WAR, DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND CONSTITUTION, OR THE CIVIL WAR. This is a deliberate effort to create ignorant dummies who know nothing about their liberty and why they have it. But they are going to each them about the robber barons. The people of North Carolina should be screaming bloody murder. The “educators” who thought this up and are planning it, that Rebecca Garland for instance, ought to be looking for another job. The North Carolina Board of Education is the responsible organization. Board members include the Lieutenant Governor, the State Treasurer and 11 other members appointed by the Governor. These elected officials should be held accountable.


9 posted on 02/03/2010 7:19:44 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: Martel1971

sorry didn’t look close enough, they should offer it, our make it a part of Government.

I will NEVER teach “Global Studies”.


10 posted on 02/03/2010 7:19:59 PM PST by Martel1971
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To: metmom

ping


11 posted on 02/03/2010 7:20:51 PM PST by pandoraou812 (time to dump tar & feathers on DC!)
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To: phi11yguy19
Yeah, why should kids be forced to learn about the American Revolution or the Civil War? Too old.

1877 allows the teacher to tell them about the rise of big business and why that was a bad thing, and tell of the heroic struggles of union organizers. But 1954 would be better--start US history with the Brown decision and the Birmingham bus boycott. Then to the Little Rock desegregation story, the sit-ins, the civil rights marches, the horrors of Vietnam, Watergate, and the Reagan revolution, the unrealized dreams of the Clinton years, the horrors of the Cheney-Bush Regime, the wonderful new era of Hope and Change with Obama, etc.

After all, government schools have the duty to indoctrinate their students so they will become reliable supporters of the government party, and immune to anything they may hear from the hatemongers on Fox...

12 posted on 02/03/2010 7:22:10 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: phi11yguy19

Why in the world should NC students be burdened with studying the Revolutionary War, or those European-American, slave owning radicals like Jefferson, Madison, Adams, et al, or the struggle for states rights and the War Between the States, when they can spend that time studying Global Warming and Diversity Issues?


13 posted on 02/03/2010 7:23:29 PM PST by caper gal 1 (Prayers for Rush.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Oops, that should have been the Montgomery bus boycott. Right state anyway—close enough for government work.


14 posted on 02/03/2010 7:24:09 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
Why 1877? Might want to look up the compromise of 1877 for the answer.
15 posted on 02/03/2010 7:28:02 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: pandoraou812

I just pinged the other article about this, but thanks for letting me know about it.

I’ll arth keyword it so anyone can find it doing a keyword search.


16 posted on 02/03/2010 7:29:02 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: phi11yguy19

Actually, when I had History classes in school, the teacher always got behind the schedule and we never learned the later stuff.


17 posted on 02/03/2010 7:29:14 PM PST by chopperman
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1877 is a “convenient” place to cleve US history because Reconstruction. Obviously if the class started in say 1865 then that class would have to somehow discuss the events that lead to Reconstriction.


18 posted on 02/03/2010 7:31:01 PM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

It also very conveniently (for them) gets rid of the Constitution and Bill or Rights and all the other critical founding documents.


19 posted on 02/03/2010 7:31:06 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: phi11yguy19

Well I can understand why North Carolina wouldn’t want to dwell on the 1861-76 time frame...


20 posted on 02/03/2010 7:32:02 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: phi11yguy19
U.S. history would begin years after President Lincoln, with the presidency of Rutherford B. Hayes in 1877.

It's about time they stopped wasting time on that Northern War of Agression and got about the serious business of things like Rutherford B. Hayes and NASCAR. Git r done.

21 posted on 02/03/2010 7:32:02 PM PST by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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To: phi11yguy19

The only people I blame for the decades long liberal agenda
are Conservatives and anyone else who respect American History.
The parents need to go in mass to school board meetings hold demonstrations, etc.

Better yet, pull the kid out of the NEA, Teacher’s Union
schools and put them in parochial or private schools.


22 posted on 02/03/2010 7:35:21 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; A2J; a4drvr; Adder; Aegedius; Afronaut; alethia; ...

NC *Ping*

Please FRmail MitchellC if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.

23 posted on 02/03/2010 7:51:08 PM PST by MitchellC
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To: C19fan

I assume 1877 was chosen as marking the final end of Reconstruction (it actually ended sooner in some states). But it could be because of the death of Crazy Horse, or because that was the year that the two moons of Mars were discovered (Phobos and Deimos).


24 posted on 02/03/2010 7:56:24 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: C19fan

Without Helms there to keep an eye on them, the people of NC have gone over the abyss.


25 posted on 02/03/2010 7:56:44 PM PST by Theodore R. (...)
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To: RoadKingSE

I remember once that EMK went into OH and ridiculed Rutherford B. Hayes, who tried to govern as a “moderate” and alienated all. Hayes was the first president to visit CA before it went over the cliff.


26 posted on 02/03/2010 7:58:20 PM PST by Theodore R. (...)
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To: caper gal 1
Whew! He barely made the 1877 deadline.


27 posted on 02/03/2010 8:04:30 PM PST by magooey (then - NO JUSTICE! NO PEACE!, now - NO DATA! NO WARMING!)
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To: phi11yguy19

This is pure and simple.

Deny American children their heritage.

To enslave them though ignorance.

So, how many parents in NC will wake up?

How many parents will homeschool now?

Hmmm?

Are you wake America?

Coming to a state you live in.

Coming to a school district that you think is ‘safe’.


28 posted on 02/03/2010 8:06:53 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: phi11yguy19

The reason is simple, to eliminate from the memory of our kids why our country was founded.


29 posted on 02/03/2010 8:07:20 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: phi11yguy19

Who needs the Founding Fathers?

/s


30 posted on 02/03/2010 8:10:45 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: phi11yguy19
"Yet another sign of how much our education system has been hijacked! "

"Hijacked" implies it was done against the serf's wishes....Not so!

It was handed over (better yet, "surrendered") officially in 1966 without a whimper.

P.S. It isn't "our" education system...It is the government's education/indoctrination system. That is why we have had 30 years of morons being generated by marxist morons. (The final result can be seen at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.)

31 posted on 02/03/2010 8:14:39 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: phi11yguy19

North Carolina has gone to hell in a handbasket.


32 posted on 02/03/2010 8:20:32 PM PST by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century US Congress when he wrote 1984)
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To: RoadKingSE

They may be able to start our history again with the American Revolution of 2010................


33 posted on 02/03/2010 8:20:57 PM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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To: C19fan

On the other hand, if we start US history in 1877, then slavery never happened in US history. So we can drop all mention of it and not allow comments like “legacy of slavery” to be used to justify poor performance.


34 posted on 02/03/2010 8:22:11 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: phi11yguy19

I hate it when history gets in the way of teaching history!!!


35 posted on 02/03/2010 8:22:45 PM PST by jackieh
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To: phi11yguy19; AT7Saluki; Liz; writer33

Nothing happened prior to 1877. Please put that in your homeschooling lesson planner.


36 posted on 02/03/2010 8:29:03 PM PST by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“Why 1877? Might want to look up the compromise of 1877 for the answer.”

What will happen to the kid who states that the Compromise ended Reconstruction and allowed Democrat racists to to rule unopposed in the South for almost a century?/s;)


37 posted on 02/03/2010 8:38:41 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: La Lydia

“THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TEACH THEM ABOUT OUR REVOLUTIONARY WAR, DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND CONSTITUTION, OR THE CIVIL WAR.”

That is why all FReepers should maintain and expand our library of old history books.

Fahrenheit 451 was not fiction after all.


38 posted on 02/03/2010 8:42:57 PM PST by panaxanax (It's time for TEA Party Patriots to get an 'ATTITUDE'.)
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To: Frank_2001

I’m pretty sure it’ll be spun as the Republicans abandoning blacks for political gain. Regardless, it allows U.S. history to begin with evil whites screwing over people of color.


39 posted on 02/03/2010 8:44:28 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: phi11yguy19

They might as well quit teaching Pre-1877 US History. What they have been teaching currently is so perverted and wrong that they may as well quit. A quick look at any current HS history book will prove me right.


40 posted on 02/03/2010 8:54:20 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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Margaret Sanger — Born: September 14, 1879

I’m sure they’ll learn ‘em about her. /s


41 posted on 02/03/2010 9:01:54 PM PST by Canedawg (Our government has become a travesty.)
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To: La Lydia
Rebecca Garland, Chief Academic Officer for North Carolina Department-Public Instruction told Fox News they're making this curriculum revision process VERY PUBLIC to get as much feedback as possible.

So, everybody, let’ get very vocal, give them our feedback, and give them hell....they shall not keep our children ignorant of our Founding Fathers, our country's values and beliefs, in this school or ANY OTHER SCHOOL. SPEAK UP NOW AND STOP THIS FROM SPREADING TO OTHER SCHOOLS.

42 posted on 02/03/2010 9:23:28 PM PST by itssme
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To: C19fan

More importantly, they eliminate that pesky history of the Republican Party being formed to eradicate slavery and that even more pesky history of the Democrat Party terrorizing blacks in the south during Reconstruction and throwing out elected black Congressmen.


43 posted on 02/03/2010 9:24:24 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: phi11yguy19

So basically they want to kick out the only Constitutional part of U.S. History (Pre-civil war), so they can spend more time on indoctrinating kids in the “global issues” of the environment and stuff?

Someone needs to fire theses so called “State education leaders” they are clearly not interested in education but rather “progressive” indoctrination.


44 posted on 02/03/2010 9:36:21 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise
Come on now, soon our “history” will begin in January on 2009. Since that was the year that America was finally liberated from those radicals that cling to their bibles, guns and that old, tattered piece of crumbling parchment.
45 posted on 02/03/2010 9:59:38 PM PST by mtdrake
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To: La Lydia

If they are refering to U.S. History classes in High School, idk bout the rest of the country, or how other areas currently do it, but when I was in school (graduated in 1997 from High School), US History before 1860 was taught in 8th grade. US History from the Civil War onward was taught junior year. So unless there is something specifically darker below the surface, other than the start date, this strikes me in and of itself as nothing unusual.


46 posted on 02/03/2010 10:33:21 PM PST by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: C19fan
What the **** is "global studies"?

Catchall term for world history. Had it in 5th grade.
47 posted on 02/03/2010 10:37:33 PM PST by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: C19fan

I had global studies in 9th grade, but US history in 10th, and civics/government in 11th. 12th I took college level history. However it is very common to break up the semester in pre and post reconstruction. I was taught the US didn’t really start until after the Civil War anyways (load of crap)


48 posted on 02/03/2010 10:53:17 PM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: phi11yguy19

I took AP US History in high school in Raleigh, NC. Great class, I learned tons about our country and why things are the way they are (it also taught me to be a good writer since we had to do so much of it!).

This is ridiculous, to put it mildly.


49 posted on 02/03/2010 11:11:11 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: phi11yguy19

Socialist Labor Party of North America holds 1st national convention Dec 26 1877


50 posted on 02/03/2010 11:19:12 PM PST by bushpilot1
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