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Disappointed With Sarah, Again
Vanity | 2/4/09

Posted on 02/04/2010 9:35:43 AM PST by dangus

Sarah endorses INCREASING immigration with Glenn Beck:

PALIN: Let me address legal immigration and we need to continue to be so welcoming and inviting of those who are represented there by our Statue of Liberty. The immigrants, of course, built this country. And I think republicans, conservatives are at fault when we allow the other side to capture this immigration issue and try to turn this issue into something negative for republicans. I think we need to recognize that again, immigrants built this great country. There are rules to follow if you want to be a part of this great country. Let's make sure people are following the rules. But let's welcome this.

BECK: Do you agree with me make the door wider and make it easier to bring people in, you know, Bill Gates said, I have a hard time keeping people here because it's so complex. Make, just streamline it and make it easier for people to come in the right way.

PALIN: Every part of bureaucracy needs to be streamlined, absolutely. And people do need to come in the right way. They cannot take advantage of what this country has to offer. The opportunities, the help that is here, they need to do this legally

When Gov. Palin endorsed Sen. John McCain, I was forgiving, because they had been part of a team. But Palin has also endorsed Sen. Lindsey Graham, the man whose hatred for conservatives and grassroots is exceeded in the Republican Party only by Sen. Arlen Specter. Oh, wait...

I'm not saying Gov. Palin is evil, liberal, or statist. But I've been pleading with people to find out what she actually stands for before they stampede to someone based on their personality and/or presence. Maybe she can still be reached, but I'm developing severe concerns we may be on the threshold of lunging headlong to yet another candidate who doesn't represent the conservative viewpoint.

Again, I emphasize she's not necessarily bad, but we should find out exactly how she stands on:



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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; dangus; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; mccain; palin; pathtocitizenship; shamnesty
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1 posted on 02/04/2010 9:35:44 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

I have NO problem with LEGAL immigration....MY problem is with the illegal ones. Ship ‘em back to where they came from and tell them to get to the back of the line.


2 posted on 02/04/2010 9:39:12 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: dangus

I don’t care if she makes any mis-step or mis-statmen

I KNOW SHE IS NOT LYING and no matter what I KNOW I TRUST HER MORE THAN ANY OTHER POLITICIAN

She may not be perfect every day (although I think she is) but she is head and shoulders above ALL THE REST in honesty, integrity, and character.


3 posted on 02/04/2010 9:39:33 AM PST by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: dangus

There’s a reason why Palin endorses McAmnesty. She agrees with his positions! When is this going to be evident to those who blindly follow her? She’s no more Conservative then McAmnesty!


4 posted on 02/04/2010 9:39:49 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: dangus

I take issue with her endorsement of Juan McCain... if you are correct, I take issue with her endorsement of Lindsey Grahamnesty... however...

I take no issue with streamlining and strengthening the true immigration system in this country. I don’t see where she supported the current, stupid and anti-immigrant system. I don’t see where she wants the door opened wide for illegal immigrants.

Your criticism is misplaced on this one.


5 posted on 02/04/2010 9:40:02 AM PST by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: dangus
She believes immigrants must come to this country legally and abide by the laws of the land. I see nothing wrong with that.
6 posted on 02/04/2010 9:39:59 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: dangus
You somehow missed this part?

There are rules to follow if you want to be a part of this great country. Let's make sure people are following the rules. But let's welcome this.

Do you believe there's something wrong with legal immigration?

7 posted on 02/04/2010 9:40:20 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: dangus

To the immigrants who play by the rules, welcome to America, now speak English!


8 posted on 02/04/2010 9:40:46 AM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: dangus

“There are rules to follow if you want to be a part of this great country.” Sarah Said.

Supporting immigration BY THE RULES is NOT a bad thing.
Everything else in the article is hyperbole based on a premise that she somehow favors illegals, which is absolutely WRONG.


9 posted on 02/04/2010 9:41:12 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: Man50D

Then=than


10 posted on 02/04/2010 9:41:36 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: dangus

Disappointed In Your Reading Comprehension

She’s talking about LEGAL immigration.

- JP


11 posted on 02/04/2010 9:42:01 AM PST by Josh Painter ("We cannot spare this woman. She fights" - David Karki, regarding Sarah Palin)
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To: dangus; Man50D

If you’re going to bang the Anti-Palin drum, please provide some “Meat” to support your case.

This smoke-and-mirrors approach isn’t getting the job done!


12 posted on 02/04/2010 9:42:10 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: dangus

If you highlighted the red in Palin’s discussion, you’re taking her words out of context. Palin is quite clear, and draws a distinction between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration.

Resorting to misrepresentation in the dialog between Palin and Beck order to make your point is disingenuous, and weakens your point.


13 posted on 02/04/2010 9:42:10 AM PST by This Just In
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To: Mr. K

Well said.


14 posted on 02/04/2010 9:42:16 AM PST by Mach9 (.)
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To: dangus

“And people do need to come in the right way. They cannot take advantage of what this country has to offer. The opportunities, the help that is here, they need to do this legally”

I am part of a Slovak parish. Many of our families put out $150.00 non refundable, to file the papers to get family members here. Most times they are turned down but the families keep trying.

Why don’t you want them to come here? They are doing it right, just like my Grandparents before me.


15 posted on 02/04/2010 9:44:26 AM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
I have NO problem with LEGAL immigration

I would have a problem with inviting the legal immigration of unskilled people to soak up taxpayer-funded social services and depress wages at the bottom of the job ladder. (Which is not to say Palin is in favor of that.)

16 posted on 02/04/2010 9:44:48 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: SoConPubbie
If you’re going to bang the Anti-Palin drum, please provide some “Meat” to support your case. This smoke-and-mirrors approach isn’t getting the job done!

I just made it! The fact that she endorses a candidate who supports amnesty for illegal aliens among many other issues also supported by socialists makes the case!

Thank you for proving my point Palin followers are so blinded they can't see the forest for the trees.
17 posted on 02/04/2010 9:45:25 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: dangus

Go pickup a Political Science 101 for Dummies. This crying about Sarah Palin’s endorsements is getting old.


18 posted on 02/04/2010 9:45:28 AM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fascism.)
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To: Mr. K

Amen!

Damn the naysaying nabobs of negativity! Go Sarah!!


19 posted on 02/04/2010 9:45:43 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! Just vote them OUT!!)
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To: dangus

I’m with Sarah on this. I absolutely oppose illegal immigration, in all forms. Illegals should be permanently barred from legal entry and from citizenship, for a first offense. However, we should have a mechanism to bring in legal immigrants who can contribute to our country.


20 posted on 02/04/2010 9:47:00 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Russ

She mouthed the exact talking points of the McCain-Kennedy Amnesty. She criticized conservatives for not seeming welcoming enough to aliens. And she stated that the door needs to be opened wider.


21 posted on 02/04/2010 9:47:23 AM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: dangus
But Palin has also endorsed Sen. Lindsey Graham,

I don't know if as the vice Presidential candidate for the United States, Governor Palin endorsed Senator Graham for his reelection campaign against the Democrat opponent.

If Beck is claiming that Sarah Palin has already made an endorsement for the 2014 election cycle, then I want to see the proof!

22 posted on 02/04/2010 9:47:52 AM PST by ansel12 (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
What you said. My Dad's a Russian immigrant from the late 1940's/early 1950's era.

Assimilate or go back where you came from.

I see nothing in Sarah's statement to suggest she believes otherwise. I can see where there are those who don't like her who would try to use this as a "See!!! She supports blanket AMNESTY!!!" despite her not saying anything of the sort.

23 posted on 02/04/2010 9:48:57 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: dangus

I say we let everybody in who does it legally, except the Irish of course. NO Irish!


24 posted on 02/04/2010 9:49:11 AM PST by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: dangus
McCain....Graham....

She is playing ‘The Shrewd Servant’, I think:

She cannot succeed on her own, or our behalf...for the benefit of a return to our founding principles.... with the established conservative [INO or otherwise] party arrayed against her as an enemy.

She's playing a prudent hand, I surmise,

25 posted on 02/04/2010 9:49:11 AM PST by dasboot
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To: All

IMO, there should be a 2 -4 year ban on ANY IMMIGRATION INTO THE US, due to our present economic situation. Id like to see a candidate that had the balls to support that.


27 posted on 02/04/2010 9:50:02 AM PST by wheninthecourse
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To: Man50D

Made her rep beating up oil companies, pro juan pro graham. SP is a pro life liberal.


28 posted on 02/04/2010 9:50:18 AM PST by omega4179 (NOT TRUE.)
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To: dangus

I see people jumping on the bandwagon and absolutely worshipping this woman...and this after we made fun of the libs for worshipping Obama! Can’t we stand back a little and look at what Palin actually stands for? Yeah, she’s pretty; yeah, she shoots guns, whatever. But let’s keep our heads about us! She wants amnesty, just like McCain and Bush.


29 posted on 02/04/2010 9:50:24 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Amen to that! If it weren’t for legal immigration, Those folks bashing Palin on the issue, wouldn’t be. If they existed at all, It’d be somewhere else, eh? My great-grandparents came here from Switzerland.


30 posted on 02/04/2010 9:50:48 AM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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To: Man50D

Which Republican would you consider conservative and/or a viable candidate in 2012?


31 posted on 02/04/2010 9:51:11 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: dangus

That’s a great thread title for your vanity, you stinking troll.


32 posted on 02/04/2010 9:51:39 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: dangus
Sarah endorses INCREASING immigration...

I do too. I want the US to be THE destination for hard-working, freedom-loving people from all parts of the world.

33 posted on 02/04/2010 9:51:49 AM PST by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Careful. That kinda talk might have someone hitting the abuse button on you again. ;-)


34 posted on 02/04/2010 9:51:51 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: dangus

I have noticed on here that a lot of people really like Mrs. Palin. Could someone explain the main reasons why she is so popular as a political leader? I know she is attractive, and that she believes a lot of good things, but the same could be said for a lot of conservative women. Why is Mrs. Palin the choice to lead us?


35 posted on 02/04/2010 9:52:06 AM PST by Charpentier
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To: omega4179

“SP is a pro life liberal.”

And you’re hysterical.

- JP


36 posted on 02/04/2010 9:53:07 AM PST by Josh Painter ("We cannot spare this woman. She fights" - David Karki, regarding Sarah Palin)
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To: JennysCool

She was pretty emphatic about ‘legal’/following the rules’. We’ve always had ‘legal’ immigration and have standards regarding passing citizenship.


37 posted on 02/04/2010 9:53:20 AM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: Josh Painter

Disappointed in YOUR reading comprehension.

I wrote, “Again, I emphasize she’s not necessarily bad, but we should find out exactly how she stands on ‘Normalizing’ the status of illegal immigrants.”

I also noted the reasons for concern that she isn’t merely talking about legal immigration, but also an amnesty: She’s endorsed the two architects of the amnesty. Legalizing illegal aliens is NOT the same thing as talking about legal immigration, and she’s using the very same weasel words Kennedy, Reid, Pelosi, Graham and McCain used when they denied that their amnesty was an amnesty.


38 posted on 02/04/2010 9:53:39 AM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

>> She was pretty emphatic about ‘legal’/following the rules’. <<

Actually, she used the same exact language as McCain, Graham, Reid, Pelosi, Bush and Kennedy.


39 posted on 02/04/2010 9:54:53 AM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: dangus

Glad you aren’t a founding father for this country, guess you wouldn’t have let my grandparents in. Who came here legally, learned the language, fought in American wars, and became productive members of society. Why don’t you go find yourself a private island. Everything I see Sarah talking about is LEGAL immigration.


40 posted on 02/04/2010 9:54:53 AM PST by xenob
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To: Russ
She believes immigrants must come to this country legally and abide by the laws of the land. I see nothing wrong with that.

No one could disagree with that. But what would Palin do about the ones who DON'T come legally and abide by the laws of the land? Would she arrest and deport them? Would she fine or jail the employers? Would she take away illegals' benefits and goodies so that they will self-deport? AFAIK, she has never stated that she would do anything of the sort, and so she probably wouldn't. Saying "They should come legally" sounds all nice and appeases people on both sides, but it's wishy-washy, fence-straddling politican talk. It means nothing.

41 posted on 02/04/2010 9:54:54 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: dangus

I think Sarah is just naive sometimes.


42 posted on 02/04/2010 9:55:25 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("Though the wrong be often strong, God still rules this earthly throng")
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To: omega4179
SP is a pro life liberal.

Her stances on the Constitution, taxes, RKBA, property Rights, and abortion all pretty much make your statement there a complete and total lie.

Try again...

43 posted on 02/04/2010 9:55:41 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Rational Thought
Which Republican would you consider conservative and/or a viable candidate in 2012?

Which ones have announced they are running? Conservative and Republicans are becoming two separate groups thanks to the OP(formerly the GOP) insisting on kicking conservatism to the curb over the years in order to expand the voter base.
44 posted on 02/04/2010 9:55:56 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: dangus

OK Slick, what part of this do YOU disagree with: PALIN: Every part of bureaucracy needs to be streamlined, absolutely. And people do need to come in the right way. They cannot take advantage of what this country has to offer. The opportunities, the help that is here, they need to do this legally. Have YOU EVER been to an INS office and observed what goes on there. NO WONDER aliens(Legal) say F*CK it and just stay here anyway they can. FIRE MOST OF THESE TURDS and you MAY rid ourselves of alot of these type of “problems”.


45 posted on 02/04/2010 9:56:29 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: Dead Corpse
Careful. That kinda talk might have someone hitting the abuse button on you again. ;-)

Hey! I was TOTALLY justified in that...

46 posted on 02/04/2010 9:56:36 AM PST by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
I agree.

One problems with our legal immigration policy is that too many of them today are not building this country - instead they are tearing it down. Too many are on welfare, forming gangs, raping (such as the Somalis), refusing to learn English, forming terrorist cells, committing honor killings, taking jobs from Americans.

I read somewhere that now there is a proposal to bring in more who are HIV positive. We need stricter criteria as to how are admitted. None of them should get welfare until they are citizens. And no selling or giving citizenship as perks.

47 posted on 02/04/2010 9:57:16 AM PST by Dante3
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To: This Just In

>> If you highlighted the red in Palin’s discussion, you’re taking her words out of context. Palin is quite clear, and draws a distinction between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration. <<

I took them out of context by publishing them in the exact context they were in. Hmmm... She draws the same distinction that McCain, Graham, Pelosi, Bush, Kennedy and Reid drew. That’s why I’m saying we should find out her position on amnesty, by whatever name McCain, Graham, Pelosi and Reid call it.


48 posted on 02/04/2010 9:57:45 AM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: Josh Painter

Reading Comprehension LOL


49 posted on 02/04/2010 9:58:12 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: wheninthecourse

“IMO, there should be a 2 -4 year ban on ANY IMMIGRATION INTO THE US, due to our present economic situation. Id like to see a candidate that had the balls to support that.”

That would certainly make sense. If there are people collecting unemployment benefits, they should be directed to any job that they can easily take. Even if it’s picking beans.

I think there should just be a rule that any immigrant must be self-supporting & should not be eligible for any welfare benefits of any kind for any family member. If they can’t make it here on their own, they should go home.


50 posted on 02/04/2010 9:58:53 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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