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Obama's prayer: 'Don't question my citizenship'
World Net Daily ^ | 2-4-10

Posted on 02/04/2010 9:54:23 AM PST by truthandlife

President Obama today at the National Prayer Breakfast raised the issue of his own eligibility for office – saying that people shouldn't be questioning his "citizenship."

Talking about the issue of "civility," he said, "Now, I am the first to confess I am not always right. Michelle will testify to that. But surely you can question my policies without questioning my faith, or, for that matter, my citizenship."

Obama continues, "Challenging each other's ideas can renew our democracy. But when we challenge each other's motives, it becomes harder to see what we hold in common. We forget that we share at some deep level the same dreams – even when we don't share the same plans on how to fulfill them."

The questions, however, over Obama's "citizenship," actually go to the core of the American republic. Multiple lawsuits have challenged that he is not qualified for the Oval Office under the Constitution's requirement that U.S. presidents be a "natural born citizen."

The plaintiffs – who run into the hundreds so far and who still have a number of cases pending at the appelllate level – have alleged that failing to meet that constitutional requirement means he actually is a usurper, with no actual authority to be president.

On a forum page at The Hill newspaper, one commenter wrote that the president has only himself to blame for the questions.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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1 posted on 02/04/2010 9:54:24 AM PST by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
Why does Obama bring this up?

'Birther' Orly Taitz Takes on Obama in D.C. Federal Court

2 posted on 02/04/2010 9:57:16 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Round 2 (insert Bikini Babe here) - DING!)
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To: truthandlife

We know you’re a citizen, you pillock.

But are you natural-born?


3 posted on 02/04/2010 9:57:52 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: truthandlife
President Obama today at the National Prayer Breakfast raised the issue of his own eligibility for office – saying that people shouldn't be questioning his "citizenship."

How is that a prayer?

Anyway, Mr. President, just make it a point that there is no documents anywhere that are not being made public due to an unwillingness on your part to waive privacy privileges and the matter goes away.

4 posted on 02/04/2010 9:57:52 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama Is An Obstructionist)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I especially like this part:

The suit demands, among other things, that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton provide a copy of Obama’s birth certificate.


5 posted on 02/04/2010 9:59:11 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Round 2 (insert Bikini Babe here) - DING!)
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To: truthandlife

How about your patriotism, Barry?


6 posted on 02/04/2010 9:59:24 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Don't fall for the Global Warming hysteria.)
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To: truthandlife

Obama, you creep, SHOW ME YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

Then and only then, will I stop questioning you on that.

I will continue to QUESTION EVERYTHING YOU DO.

You are EVIL to the core, Obama and Michele.


7 posted on 02/04/2010 10:00:51 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: truthandlife
But surely you can question my policies without questioning my faith

What faith is that, Mr. Obama? If you are a lifelong Christian as you and your campaign staff claimed, then when and where were you baptized and who took you there?

Your mother was agnostic, your fathers non-observant muslims, and your grandmother was a Unitarian.

8 posted on 02/04/2010 10:00:56 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Don't fall for the Global Warming hysteria.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Why does Obama bring this up?


His “victimhood,” and labelling of any questioners as “far right nuts” on this issue has given him a lot of political mileage.


9 posted on 02/04/2010 10:01:26 AM PST by PGR88
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To: truthandlife
Good advice. Don't question his citizenship. Question his eligibility to be POTUS.

Barack has three birth records on file with the HI DoH. Dr. Fukino has examined those vital records (plural).

1) Original Birth Record states Barack Hussein Obama II was born August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI.

2) Adoption Birth Record, circa 1965-66, supercedes the original birth record and states Barry Soetoro was born August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI. It lists Lolo Soetoro as Barry's father.

3) Court Ordered Birth Record, circa 1971-72, supercedes the original birth record and the adoption birth record and states Barack Hussein Obama II was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI with Barack Obama Sr. listed as the father. Ordered by the Court after the Soetoro adoption was dissolved.

The reason the Court Ordered Birth Record does not have a hospital administrator signature or doctor's signature is because it was created by a Court ORDER after the Soetoro adoption was voided.

Barack's ineligibility evolves from his Indonesian National status as Barry Soetoro. Indonesia does not accept dual citizens. Barry Soetoro requested and received a Certificate of Loss of Nationality from the U.S. State Department before Indonesia would acknowledge Barry Soetoro as one of its citizens.

Barack/Barry exploited the fact it is assumed a person with a HI COLB is an American citizen. HI DoH will create COLBs for noncitizen adoptees. Barack/Barry's ineligibility can only be determined by examining the records for Obama and Soetoro at the State Department.


10 posted on 02/04/2010 10:04:11 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Clever tag line can only be seen on the other Internets.)
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To: PGR88
Obama has the most polarizing poll number this early in his term than any previous president.
11 posted on 02/04/2010 10:04:21 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Round 2 (insert Bikini Babe here) - DING!)
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To: truthandlife

The title is misleading. There are Freepers, unfortunately, who won’t read the report but who will take information from the title and repeat it - and then we Freepers become part of the uninformed, misleading, incorrect pipeline.

IMO


12 posted on 02/04/2010 10:04:43 AM PST by hoe_cake
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To: truthandlife

He sure presumes that he and we share the same dreams on some level. We absolutely do not - and he knows it. This is just more of his deflection by rhetoric.


13 posted on 02/04/2010 10:05:15 AM PST by Truth29
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To: truthandlife
We forget that we share at some deep level the same dreams

I don't have much in common with Red diaper doper babies.

"We've got to make sure that our party understands that, like it or not, we have to have a financial system that is healthy and functioning" - Barack Obama Feb 4, 2010

14 posted on 02/04/2010 10:06:12 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("like it or not, we have to have a financial system that is healthy and functioning" Obama 2/4/2010)
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To: hoe_cake
How effective can FR be when there are Freeper spending their time fretting about their fellow Freepers rather than make politics against Obama?
15 posted on 02/04/2010 10:07:13 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Round 2 (insert Bikini Babe here) - DING!)
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To: truthandlife

He’s a racist...its been completely proven (20 year association with Rev Wright...his mentor) Throw the bum out just like they would with a KKK member. Screw obongo and his accomplices in the MSM.


16 posted on 02/04/2010 10:08:14 AM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: truthandlife

When Obama was teaching constitutional law, his position was that the Constitution should be interpreted so as to allow the powerless to challenge the powerful.

Now that he is the most powerful person in the land, in courthouses across the country his lawyers use constitutional arguments to deny that ordinary people have the legal right to question his constitutional eligibility for the presidency.

His action in going to such lengths to prevent the Hawaiian authorities from releasing his birth records to my mind can only be for one of the following reasons:

- He has something in his birth records so damaging that he needs to hide it from the American people. This from a guy who had no problem admitting, for example, his use of drugs in the past.

- He fears a crack in the dam - that if he releases those records, he would face more pressure to release other records, for example his college records which might show that he renewed his Indonesian citizenship in college, which would have caused him to lose US citizenship by operation of law.

- He and Axelrod believe resisting disclosure is a good wedge issue, since with the MSM on their side, they can try to paint his political opponents as “birther” kooks and marginalize them.

None of these possible motivations says anything good about the president of the country.


17 posted on 02/04/2010 10:08:14 AM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: truthandlife

Now that he’s mentioned it....

ka chunk... sound of steel trap door coming down

Mr Sensitive just couldn’t keep his mouth shut, could he?


18 posted on 02/04/2010 10:09:54 AM PST by silverleaf (My Proposed Federal Budget is $29.99)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Barack's ineligibility evolves from his Indonesian National status as Barry Soetoro. Indonesia does not accept dual citizens. Barry Soetoro requested and received a Certificate of Loss of Nationality from the U.S. State Department before Indonesia would acknowledge Barry Soetoro as one of its citizens. 1. Indonesia would have no way of knowing his US Citizenship status. Also, the US doesn't particularly care about someone breaking Indonesian law. 2. A minor cannot legally relinquish US citizenship. It must be done as an adult.
19 posted on 02/04/2010 10:10:26 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: Berlin_Freeper
making politics against Obama?

Why do we have to “make politics against Obama?”

Anyway, the title is still misleading. We should strive to be more accurate and less the facility of misinformation.

20 posted on 02/04/2010 10:11:25 AM PST by hoe_cake
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To: SvenMagnussen
Barack's ineligibility evolves from his Indonesian National status as Barry Soetoro. Indonesia does not accept dual citizens. Barry Soetoro requested and received a Certificate of Loss of Nationality from the U.S. State Department before Indonesia would acknowledge Barry Soetoro as one of its citizens.

1. Indonesia would have no way of knowing his US Citizenship status. Also, the US doesn't particularly care about someone breaking Indonesian law.

2. A minor cannot legally relinquish US citizenship. It must be done as an adult.

formatting fixed.

21 posted on 02/04/2010 10:12:35 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Same question that came into my mid. If it were a non-issue, you wouldn’t bring it up. If it were a non-issue then you’d just regard the birthers like I regard the 9/11 truthers.


22 posted on 02/04/2010 10:17:20 AM PST by brooklyn dave (NO KSM TRIAL IN NYC)
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To: truthandlife

Bill O’Reilly yesterday evening told us that two Hawaiian newspapers had duly reported the birth of Barack Obama (or whatever was his name at birth). I wrote to Mr. O’Reilly today, asking him to show us, on TV and his personal website, readable images of those newpaper items, in the interest of putting this troubling matter to rest.
He can be reached at “oreilly@foxnews.com


23 posted on 02/04/2010 10:20:51 AM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: truthandlife

Obama says, “Challenging each other’s ideas can renew our democracy. But when we challenge each other’s motives, it becomes harder to see what we hold in common. We forget that we share at some deep level the same dreams – even when we don’t share the same plans on how to fulfill them.”

Excuse me, Mr. President, but you aren’t living up to your own words! When WE challenge your ideas YOU challenge OUR motives!! You say we’re playing politics when in fact, we are challenging your policies and ideas!!

Mr. President you have ZERO CREDIBILITY!!!


24 posted on 02/04/2010 10:23:10 AM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: hoe_cake
Why do we have to “make politics against Obama?”

Because that would be more worth our time of fighting against his political agenda than a Pillsbury Bake-Off?

Over twenty posts now and I don't see any evidence of your concern.

25 posted on 02/04/2010 10:24:45 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Round 2 (insert Bikini Babe here) - DING!)
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To: truthandlife

Back to the issue of the thread...sorry folks.

Obama is hiding something, and that’s all I need to know in order to have serious questions about his citizenship. If he didn’t have something to hide, he’d be tossing his birth certificate in our face every chance he got....and he’s got lots of chances. He’s such an arrogant punk that he’d paste it over the seal on his podium if he HAD one to paste.


26 posted on 02/04/2010 10:25:23 AM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: truthandlife; LucyT; ExTexasRedhead; null and void
But surely you can question my policies without questioning my faith, or, for that matter, my citizenship."

We have every right to question your citizenship Mr. President. It's part of the US Constitution (the document you seem to detest). All you have to do is produce it for all to verify and see and put it back into your quadruple locked vault with all your other secret documents (including educational records) that you've spent more than a million dollars securing to the max from anyone and everyone.

By producing your authentic birth certificate Mr. Obama, you give us two things:

1 - Proof of Citizenship (if indeed you are a citizen); and

2 - Transparency (for at least this one item, because you haven't given it to us for anything else).

The more secretive you are about your personal information and provable documents, the more distrustful we are of you and pretty much everything you say and do. By the way DEMOCRATS from your own party - and a great majority of other Americans are asking the same thing, so don't be accusing right-wingers, conservatives or independents of being the only ones asking questions about you because we, the people, have the right to ask and to have our question answered.

27 posted on 02/04/2010 10:25:51 AM PST by MamaDearest
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To: truthandlife

Back to the issue of the thread...sorry folks.

Obama is hiding something, and that’s all I need to know in order to have serious questions about his citizenship. If he didn’t have something to hide, he’d be tossing his birth certificate in our face every chance he got....and he’s got lots of chances. He’s such an arrogant punk that he’d paste it over the seal on his podium if he HAD one to paste.


28 posted on 02/04/2010 10:26:41 AM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: CaribouCrossing

Double post....fr hangups.


29 posted on 02/04/2010 10:27:16 AM PST by CaribouCrossing
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unbelievable, don’t question my faith or my citizenship,

well, I question both.

30 posted on 02/04/2010 10:27:54 AM PST by Sophia777
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To: Berlin_Freeper

why do we have to “make politics against Obama?”

It happens on its own.

And whatever do you mean, not seeing any evidence of my concern in over 20 posts? Does that make MY OPINION any less a valid OPINION?

This is an open forum.


31 posted on 02/04/2010 10:29:10 AM PST by hoe_cake
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

I suspect that it dawned on someone at the White House that Obama’s remarks about the supreme court might backfire. They may decide to hear this issue as a way to give Obama the finger.

There are some interesting arguments based solely on the fact that his father wasn’t a citizen. If it went to the supreme court nobody could predict 100% how they would rule.

I suspect there is something damaging on the original (like lists religion as muslim, origninal middle name was Mohammed, or lists someone else as father). That’s pure speculation, but makes the most sense.


32 posted on 02/04/2010 10:32:23 AM PST by Brookhaven
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Why does Obama bring this up?

It was quite strange for him to bring this up at the Natl. Prayer Breakfast. It now becomes obvious that Obambi is bothered about questions of his eligibility! This is good IMHO.

He knows how to clear this all up but of course there is a reason he does not.

33 posted on 02/04/2010 10:33:11 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: truthandlife

“But surely you can question my policies without questioning my faith, or, for that matter, my citizenship.”

NONE of us should ever question Obama’s faith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hPR5jnjtLo


34 posted on 02/04/2010 10:36:48 AM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First FAILED "light skinned African American [Pres-dent] with no Negro dialect..")
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I believe it’s called a Freudian slip, something that seems to happen a lot with him.Like the Bolshevik remark.


35 posted on 02/04/2010 10:39:43 AM PST by sanjoaquinvalley (Long time lady lurker.)
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To: CaribouCrossing
Could you imagine what the MSM would be like if there were any question at all about the bc of Sarah Palin?

And I bet the same people against Birthers as hurting the GOP, would find every reason under the sun to be against Palin about it.

36 posted on 02/04/2010 10:40:40 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Round 2 (insert Bikini Babe here) - DING!)
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To: Elsiejay

and someone needs to ask Mr O Reilly who provided that information to the newspapers?

If it was the hospital or the State of HI, why is the birth of twin daughters to a local doctor, on that date at that hospital, not in the newspaper?

A doctor who happened to have an office at or near the same Kalanianiole address as used in obama’s birth ad

(and dear anti-birthers, no, don’t ask me to go get links for you- there were some very long and illuminating posts on FR and obamafile back when the issue was opened, links and websites that have disappeared)


37 posted on 02/04/2010 10:44:31 AM PST by silverleaf (My Proposed Federal Budget is $29.99)
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To: truthandlife

FUBO... and your wookie wife.

LLS


38 posted on 02/04/2010 10:44:34 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: sanjoaquinvalley

bingo


39 posted on 02/04/2010 10:45:22 AM PST by silverleaf (My Proposed Federal Budget is $29.99)
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To: truthandlife
Prayer Breakfast....

This self described Muslim does not belong at a prayer breakfast....

Disagree?

When was the last time that you attended a prayer breakfast that focused on “THE SPEAKER”??? Nothing was stated about faith, God, country.

Nooooo. It was about putting down “HIS” detractors...those who disagree with “HIM”.....The Messiah!

Thank you voters! YOU ARE TO BLAME!!!

This IS NOT a Muslim country!!! Barry should not lecture US citizens from a pulpit!!!

And there are only 35 months left with this False Prophet running our country.

40 posted on 02/04/2010 10:47:44 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: silverleaf
Obama won't even say which of the two hospitals that “the first black president” was born at.
41 posted on 02/04/2010 10:50:34 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Round 2 (insert Bikini Babe here) - DING!)
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To: truthandlife

Oooooooohhhh!

It’s getting to him.


42 posted on 02/04/2010 10:51:48 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: hoe_cake
Why do we have to “make politics against Obama?”

Are you lost? Are you sure you're in the right place?
43 posted on 02/04/2010 10:54:57 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: All

Do people realize how much money Joseph Farah and WND is making from keeping this whole so-called “birther” issue alive?


44 posted on 02/04/2010 10:56:41 AM PST by MarkAccord
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To: Beckwith

my point is we don’t have to ‘make” anything up. The info is already there. I’m not disagreeing with Obama’s lack of American birth status at all. I just don’t think we have to “make” up any damaging information. There’s plenty out there.


45 posted on 02/04/2010 10:57:25 AM PST by hoe_cake
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Obama won't even say which of the two hospitals that “the first black president” was born at.

Who knew that was a requirement to be President? Did they slip that in somewhere else in the Constitution?

I don't like the guy any more than you do, but you aren't going to win on this issue. The only strategy that could work is to change the law in at least one State to require submitting qualification documents, including birth certificates, in order to be placed on the ballot. The current law of the party certifying it's own candidates is crazy.

If he is indeed not a US Citizen, a very long shot IMO, then his 2012 run is dead.

46 posted on 02/04/2010 11:02:30 AM PST by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: hoe_cake

By the way, while the title is a little misleading, it is probably the original title from the source, so it should not be changed.

But Barry did say the line, as a red-meat laugh line, but I doubt it is his “prayer”. It just took place at the Prayer Breakfast.


47 posted on 02/04/2010 11:07:27 AM PST by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Obama won't even say which of the two hospitals that “the first black president” was born at.

Here, in the last paragraph, Obama describes his birth at Queens Hospital as an all-American story:



Here, Obama, in writing, refers to Kapi'olani Hospital as, "the place of my birth."



So there youy have it from Obama himself -- he was born at two different hospitals.
48 posted on 02/04/2010 11:08:21 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: MarkAccord
Do people realize how much money Joseph Farah and WND is making from keeping this whole so-called “birther” issue alive?

No, tell us. Exactly how much money is WND making?
49 posted on 02/04/2010 11:09:41 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Elsiejay

Here's one. Lower left corner, a few up from the bottom. I don't know about the other.

Of course the info in a newspaper notice does not constitute of legal document. I don't think you would get far with that if you wanted to get a passport or driver's license.

50 posted on 02/04/2010 11:10:42 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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