Skip to comments.Denver boy, 9, died after state-benefits error denied him asthma medication
Posted on 02/04/2010 2:35:27 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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I would have sold everything I could if I had to get medicine for a child.
This woman is an absolute disgrace.
And what about the dad? Oh well.
>> Something we seriously wrong on both ends.
That's one of those interesting differences between people -- to me it's basically tasteless, but mildly pleasant.
Learn Spanish and travel.
Mexican Riviera is fun and lots to do.
Come back stocked up and if a friend will help, they should get a prescrption.
It's a maintenance drug.
Sounds like to me...this kid was too sick to just be on Advair alone. This lady drug her feet...She could have got an Advair disc somewhere, somehow.
Something stinks here...
She obviously couldn’t afford it. People with money have this unreasonable belief that everyone has a reserve they can tap into. A lot don’t.
advair costs hundreds of dollars a script.
Out of pocket
However I am surprised that the doc did not immediately put the kid on prednisone generic. That should have been more affordable.
I cannotwait for the end of perscription insurance. That is what is driving the cost of meds up.
Just adding the Advair to this kids drug regime doesn't sound like it was the answer. Besides it appears he did get back on it for a couple weeks or so.
He was a lot sicker than that.......Mom should have known.
If I expressed my disgust at your comments, I would probably be banned.
Stop using that.......
I've seen too many folks die using that stuff........
Just go buy a Ventolin Inhaler
PULMICORT has not been effective for anyone I know and Symbicort never feels quite right.
She took him there twice apparently, the second time they gave her some samples but it would seem his condition had deteriorated so much it didn’t help to go back on the meds. I have to wonder if his condition wasn’t something other than asthma. What I don’t understand is why she didn’t take him to the health services. every city has one with doctors and everything. This is a sad case of people expecting the gov to fix things for them, like the people in N.O. waiting for someone to take care of them instead of finding a way out themselves.
Advair is a steroid fluticasone and a bronchodilator salmeterol mix....most can expect benefits 30 minutes after use....some might take a week.
You are correct...it's not a rescue inhaler.
We don't have the full story here....I'd wager.
I am going to say something that may or may not be the case but should be considered.
Not everyone is bright enough to advocate for themselves in the increasingly complex systems the leftists have developed.
The Bell Curve talks about how this would become increasingly problematic.
This lady didn't try hard enough, IMO.
the sad thing is that there probably isn't more to this story...
It's a unit dose powder which is delivered by the patient's inhalation.
That said...you make a decent point about other MDI's that use a delivery gas.
It can be dangerous.......
Yes, Primatene is OTC. I don’t recommend it unless there’s nothing else available.
I am on Medicare/disability and have never heard of such a thing. I just went through a full yr of treatment for breast cancer and never had a problem. Some of my meds were not pd for since I was in the donut hole and my prescription INS didn’t cover them but I just pd for them with no problem.
I took care of my mother for 4 yes and she was medi/medi, best INS anyone can have they pay for everything. For 4 yes the only thing they didn’t pay for that there was no generic for was Advair. She was a breast cancer patient so lots of doctors and treatments. She was never denied a doctor, treatment, or type of medication except the Advair and we just pd for it.
I will put money on her being on public assistance. Then she wouldn’t have $175/month available to purchase it outright.
And the article states that they were getting treatment, including his getting so ill after an attack he never recovered.
When I was between insurance, Primatene was what I could afford. Also, none of the new drugs were around either.
I don’t use Primatene currently. It’s been years since I’ve used it, as a matter of fact.
Now, I make more money and can afford Advair at full price, even without insurance.
Another angle is maybe this woman...isn't all that bright.
Like most have mentioned here....we don't have the whole story. And we probably won't ever.....
There was an article recently here about the highest % of recipients of public assistance in MO, I believe. The article was trying to slam Walmart, but looking closely at the numbers, the employers with largest % of employees on public assistance is the state itself.
Exactly. It’s called “White Coat Syndrome” and people ar intimidated by other people wearing white coats.
You have to be the single biggest advocate for your self or find some one who is stronger and well read on your condition.
To many people suffer from just doing what a doctor says and not all thera pies work the same for each person.
One thing I want to point out, when you buy prescrips from Canada, you are cheating the company that developed and brought the drug to market. Because Canada forces drug companies to sell their products in Canada at lower costs (to reduce Canada’s public health expenditures), the companies lose money in Canada and have to recover the money on US sales.
Primatene mist should be banned.....IMO.
kimmie7 might want your help.
like I said, my experience is different.
Wasn’t big deal. got the meds the next day but I would have started getting agitated if they weren’t there the next day.
on the procedure, I don’t recall the specifics of what or why there was a limitation but, I do remember my response being on the order of “WTH”
What’s “the Donut Hole”?
That is what I didn't get either.
Back when I didn't have health insurance my doctor gave me an entire bag of samples. Why didn't she call his doctor and ask for help?
I don’t discount your theory at all. But if this woman WAS asking for help, why didn’t anyone see it through so the child got his med?
Very thoughtful, however my asthma has recently taken a turn for the “oh my gosh” and Advair no longer helps. They have moved me to Symbicort full strength.
They put me on Pulmicort first, but I began having severe anger issues and demonic nightmares. Thank the Lord they got me off that fast. LOL
You seem to think that there is some sort of system in place to make sure things like this do not happen. The only way things like this wont happen is to privatize everything. The state cannot meet people's needs because bureaucracies cannot flex.
My pharmacist son says this happens all the time. Some woll not pay for medicine, no matter how sick their child is. Most drive nice cars and have cell phones....I just don’t understand how a parent could let a child suffer just because of a Medicaid problem.
That’s truly depressing.
My husband worked for Schering Pharmaceutical for years.
But if my child's life is at risk and I have no alternative, I will gladly beg, borrow or steal to get him the medication he needs.
This is sad. There are many churches in the Denver area which have discretionary funds to help people in the community with these issues. I wish someone would have steered her that way. She could have had help with the cost of meds while waiting for the government issue to be straightened out.
I think most “paraprofessionals” in the Denver Pubic Schools are part-time and not entitled to health benefits.
Bull crap! She could have taken the kid to the ER at any time and he would have been treated and sent home with medication. He would have received the treatment; that’s one reason why illegals come here because they know that they will get medical care with no real obligation to pay for it. She did nothing for how long? That’s neglect.
I know being in those situations can be overwhelming, and we can’t see all of the alternatives. I am surprised the doctors didn’t help direct her toward other assistance. If I worked for that company and knew of her plight, I would have passed it on to the powers that be.
Years ago, after my kids father and I separated, we were on public assistance. From time to time we got caught in bureaucratic hell. But, if the life of my child depended on something, I would have been begging family for help.
That little boy did not have to die. Momma should have gotten off the phone and started begging in the streets if it’s that serious. I am a cash pay patient and my dr give me samples of the rescue inhaler as well as ADVAIR. Never had a problem.
My sister has no coverage and no money. She is asthmatic, has high blood pressure, thryroid issues, bad back you name it. She called me one day just to talk and I could barely understand her. She had bronchitis and didn’t have the money for dr/meds. I went to the store and sent her western union the money she needed. Same with my nephew. He is Bi-polar w/hi BP. Out of work last year w/no meds. I sent the money. My downstairs neighbor too. He’s elderly and his check just keeps(LOL) on getting lost in the mail and he needs money for meds. Sucker me gives it to him.
But the point is there are many ways to work these problems out. Alot of the pharaceutical companies advertise that if you can’t afford the meds and need them, to call and they will arrange something.
What a sad loss of life.
In other words, they actually want you to pay for some of your meds.
Didn’t know it actually had a name.
My 99 yr. old friend, who had four hip operations and 9 hospitalizations in one year, had covered expenses and threshold out of pocket expenses.
Totally makes sense and the %’s look about the same as her coverage.
One of the medical professionals involved in his care surely should have advocated for him, or at least seen that an alternative was tried if they couldn't get the Advair (I speak from experience in the field)