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Obama calls for talks with GOP on health care, then vote by Congress(Still trying to make it happen)
cnn ^ | 2/4/10

Posted on 02/05/2010 8:44:55 AM PST by bestintxas

President Obama called Thursday for high-level talks with Republicans to work out a compromise on health care legislation, then putting the resulting bill to a vote in Congress.

"If Congress decides we're not going to do it, even after all the facts are laid out, after all the options are clear, then the American people can make a judgment as to whether this Congress has done the right thing for them or not," Obama said. "That's how democracy works."

Obama's comments were the first clear signal from the White House or Democrats in Congress on how they would proceed on a top legislative priority after losing their 60-seat super-majority in the Senate.

Republican Scott Brown was sworn in as the new U.S. senator from Massachusetts earlier Thursday, leaving the Democrats one vote shy of being able to overcome GOP filibusters of health care reform and other major initiatives.

Asked at a party fund-raising event about the Democratic strategy for health care reform going forward, Obama said Democratic leaders in the House and Senate were working out differences in the separate health care bills passed by each chamber last year.

Once that was finished, Obama said, the next step would be "to call on our Republican friends to present their ideas."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; hillarycare; obama; obamacare; romneycare
I think the GOP idea should be "Throw out this garbage and start all over again."
1 posted on 02/05/2010 8:44:55 AM PST by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

If the GOP hasn’t got the message by now, there’s no hope for them. What is it about a devastating trifecta of Dem losses they don’t understand?


2 posted on 02/05/2010 8:47:07 AM PST by Starboard
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To: bestintxas

Here’s two ideas for you Zero:

1.Let people buy insurance across state lines

2.Institute tort reform

Those are the only winners that Conservatives will support. Those would dramatically bring down the cost of Healthcare in our country. But you get too much money from those entities to do those two things, don’t you?


3 posted on 02/05/2010 8:47:33 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: bestintxas

Well, idle hands are the devil’s workshop. It’s nice to give them something to do until November. I mean, really, how long can you sit and do nothing? I mean, I could use a few days off to stare at a plant, but there comes a point when I become the object of my observation.


4 posted on 02/05/2010 8:47:47 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: bestintxas

He needs to put down the crack pipe and slowly back away...


5 posted on 02/05/2010 8:47:49 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: bestintxas

He’s trying to shift the blame to Congress and specifically Republicans for the failure to pass HC. Nice try Barry. Your Health Care Plan sucks and no one wants it.


6 posted on 02/05/2010 8:48:30 AM PST by teddyballgame
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To: bestintxas
Or how about...

"...I think the GOP idea should be "Throw out this garbage and start all over again."

7 posted on 02/05/2010 8:48:49 AM PST by skimbell
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To: originalbuckeye

“Here’s two ideas for you Zero:

1.Let people buy insurance across state lines

2.Institute tort reform

Those are the only winners that Conservatives will support. Those would dramatically bring down the cost of Healthcare in our country. But you get too much money from those entities to do those two things, don’t you?”

Today’s winner!!


8 posted on 02/05/2010 8:49:45 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: originalbuckeye

you forgot

3) Make self-purchased insurace ta-deductable JUST LIKE IT IS WHEN YOU PURCHASE IT THROUGH YOUR EMPLOYER

After all, health care is a ‘right’ isn’t it? why would they want to tax it?


9 posted on 02/05/2010 8:50:46 AM PST by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: bestintxas

If the Dems and Jack Squat are not willing to scrap the entire existing healthcare legislation as it is now and start the process over, one response: Hell NO!


10 posted on 02/05/2010 8:51:12 AM PST by cranked
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To: bestintxas
Once that was finished, Obama said, the next step would be "to call on our Republican friends to present their ideas."

Right! Because the Dems don't have a clue about what to do next.

11 posted on 02/05/2010 8:51:15 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife (11/02/10)
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To: skimbell

Hey Obama why don’t you try forcing some of your other loser issues on your agenda down the throats of Americans like Cap & Tax, Immigrtion reform, you’re well on your way to losing the House and the Senate. Keep it up Barry, you’re deulusional.


12 posted on 02/05/2010 8:51:15 AM PST by teddyballgame
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To: originalbuckeye
Bingo!

The GOP needs to talk about those two things non-stop.

13 posted on 02/05/2010 8:52:28 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I was born in America, but now I live in Declinistan.)
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To: bestintxas
Good Lord!


14 posted on 02/05/2010 8:52:34 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error!)
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To: bestintxas
It's as simple as 1-2-3:

1. Tort reform.

2.Ability to purchase across state lines.

3. No public option .

15 posted on 02/05/2010 8:52:45 AM PST by Reo
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To: bestintxas

Odumbo must know it is 330 in the morning and the gop is the only one in the bar to take home


16 posted on 02/05/2010 8:53:05 AM PST by italianquaker (My bartender knew about the attempted Christmas attack before odumbo)
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To: bestintxas

Why would the GOP saddle up their horses to ride with NaBamoleon to his Waterloo?


17 posted on 02/05/2010 8:53:14 AM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: bestintxas

They should just say to him “Hey Barry, we won”. Short memory Hussein?


18 posted on 02/05/2010 8:54:14 AM PST by poobear
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To: bestintxas

He’s going on a Rino safari.


19 posted on 02/05/2010 8:54:32 AM PST by lacrew (Barack Obama is always the least experienced most condescending guy in the room. (Rush))
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To: originalbuckeye

Might I add, taxing employer paid insurance as income.


20 posted on 02/05/2010 8:56:45 AM PST by Roccus (ABLE DANGER?????...................What's an ABLE DANGER???)
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To: bestintxas
The Democrats' idea of bipartisanship is for the GOP to embrace a health care bill rejected by the American people.

NO THANKS!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

21 posted on 02/05/2010 8:56:50 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: bestintxas

The “GOP” should BECKON Obomba to them.....and then read him the riot act!


22 posted on 02/05/2010 8:57:12 AM PST by goodnesswins (VOTE Democrat........KILL America)
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To: originalbuckeye

“But you get too much money from those entities to do those two things, don’t you?”

Maybe this is “above his pay-grade”, too?


23 posted on 02/05/2010 8:57:18 AM PST by GWMcClintock ("When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Ps.11:3)
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To: originalbuckeye

“Here’s two ideas for you Zero:
1.Let people buy insurance across state lines
2.Institute tort reform”

3. Then take out public option, mandatory payments, criminal penalties, access to bank accounts, and creation of new government agencies.

Then the Commiecrates won’t support it, and a good result is obtained.


24 posted on 02/05/2010 8:58:31 AM PST by J Edgar
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To: bestintxas

It’s a little late for compromise, Zero. You can’t try to cram your Socialist Dream through the Senate 60-40 and then ask the Republicans to trim a little to make it fit 59-41.

You have to go back to the drawing board.

Throw out the individual mandate. Throw out the pre-existing conditions. Throw out the Death Panels. Throw out the new taxes. Throw out the straight-jacketing of insurance policies.

Add in tort reform. Add in individual ownership of policies. Add in interstate competition. Add in tax breaks for individual purchases and medical savings accounts. Come up with market-based solutions.

Drive a stake through the heart of single payer. Give up on the fantasy of government nationalization of health care. Let the people be free.

Then we’ll talk...


25 posted on 02/05/2010 8:58:54 AM PST by Haiku Guy ("I don't give them Hell / I tell the truth about them / And they think it's Hell" -- Harry Truman)
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To: Haiku Guy
And where is the focus on creating new jobs and reducing the deficit? I sure as heck don't see it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

26 posted on 02/05/2010 9:00:13 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: bestintxas

The GOP will say that any bill without extensive tort reform is a non-starter, which will cut the legs from under Democrat funding so they will refuse. D.O.A.

(the fact that Barry is even thinking about talking to the GOP shows he is out of options)


27 posted on 02/05/2010 9:01:14 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: bestintxas

the GOP will cave..wait and see.


28 posted on 02/05/2010 9:02:41 AM PST by rrrod
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To: Mr. K

Stand up and say, once and for all, that health care is not, and can never be, a “right”.

If a person has a right to the service provided by others, then those others must be slaves, with no choice but to provide that service.

If you have a right
To the service I provide,
I must be your slave.


29 posted on 02/05/2010 9:02:57 AM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave.)
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To: bestintxas

Translation:

Get GOP in a room, show them the bill Harry and Nancy have put together. Tell them that this is what will be voted on. Bolt from the room to an adoring media and tell them that the Republicans refused to compromise. Blame Republicans for the failure to get a bill through. In short, all a political tactic from a man who is decrying politics.


30 posted on 02/05/2010 9:03:00 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: bestintxas

Hope springs eternal for that ONE RINO sell out! And why not! With the likes of Snowe, Collins, Voinovich, Grahamnesty, McCain and others, it ain’t a bad bet!


31 posted on 02/05/2010 9:03:07 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: bestintxas

Obama closed the door on health care negotiations months ago.
Now he has the audacity to ask Republicans to come back to the table now that he finds he needs them.

FUBO.


32 posted on 02/05/2010 9:04:17 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: bestintxas

at least one of em’ - Snowe, Collins, Graham, McCain - will vote for cloture


33 posted on 02/05/2010 9:05:32 AM PST by wny
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The Democrats will never cut the heart out from the tort lawyer lobby that provides much of their funding. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place on health care reform.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

34 posted on 02/05/2010 9:05:40 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: wny
IF the Democrats can write a bill they like. But that would mean angering their kook base so they will never do it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

35 posted on 02/05/2010 9:06:37 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: bestintxas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWRPB1lPXJg&feature=sub


36 posted on 02/05/2010 9:06:45 AM PST by PLD
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To: bestintxas; All

Be my guest in expanding on the two I posted. I was agreeing they should throw out the whole mess and start over with those two but you all have given a few others that are really good, too!


37 posted on 02/05/2010 9:08:05 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: bestintxas
Obama said Democratic leaders in the House and Senate were working out differences in the separate health care bills passed by each chamber last year.

His Zeroness is then going to invite the Republican in and force this bill down the throats of the Pubbies and the American citizens. How is this working together? He lies so many times that even he believes himself.

38 posted on 02/05/2010 9:13:28 AM PST by elephant
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To: bestintxas
He really thinks he is ‘god’. This ‘stranger’ in our midst ignores the basic Constitutional establishment we are a ‘representative republic’ NOT a liberal lie, cheat, and steal votes, democracy.
39 posted on 02/05/2010 9:15:03 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: tflabo

That should be a bumper sticker!


40 posted on 02/05/2010 9:15:26 AM PST by sarasota
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To: bestintxas

“President Obama called Thursday for high-level talks with Republicans to work out a compromise on health care legislation”

Danger! Danger! Will Robinson.

Don’t let the Kenyan off the mat!


41 posted on 02/05/2010 9:20:48 AM PST by y6162
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To: bestintxas
"President Obama called Thursday for high-level talks with Republicans"..... Repubics sent their reply....
42 posted on 02/05/2010 9:46:59 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Haiku Guy

IMO, there has to be some provision made for pre-existing conditions. I do not think that someone should be able to purchase insurance to pay for the cancer they were just diagnosed with. However, what is that uninsured cancer patient to do, since they will NEVER be able to purchase any kind of health insurance again.

Maybe it should function like a life insurance policy’s suicide clause - your pre-existing condition isn’t covered for the first two years of continuous coverage, for instance. This would allow anyone to purchase insurance, while preventing people from only purchasing it when they need it.

It might also make sense to place these people into catastrophic-only policies for that first two year period, so that they only get coverage after they pay a high deductible first.

However it’s done, there has to be some way offered to the “uninsurable” to move them into the ranks of the insured.


43 posted on 02/05/2010 10:06:34 AM PST by RightFighter (Sarah Palin - we love you and can't wait to see you again.)
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To: RightFighter

In New Jersey, if you are a high-risk driver, you are placed into what is called the “High Risk Pool”. All insurance companies must accept a specified portion of drivers from that pool, and the state sets the cost of insurance for that pool high enough that nobody wants to be in it.

Maybe something similar could be worked out for pre-existing conditions. If somebody doesn’t buy insurance until they are sick, they get stuck with a huge (I mean really, really huge) premium, limiited care and high deductible. I could live with that.


44 posted on 02/05/2010 11:09:26 AM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave.)
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To: bestintxas
Obama's War on Seniors

Socialized Med Thread

45 posted on 02/05/2010 12:18:43 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Haiku Guy

I tend to agree. There are those, though, who are not really “unhealthy” as we might define it. I have high cholesterol, for instance. I was denied for personal health insurance here in Florida a few years ago. I’m not a heavy user of healthcare services, but I was considered too big a risk. I later got a job with benefits, partially for that reason. With medication, my cholesterol is under control. I don’t think it was really appropriate to consider me uninsurable because of that one risk factor, nor do I think that they should have insured me at the same rates as everyone else.


46 posted on 02/05/2010 2:09:59 PM PST by RightFighter (Sarah Palin - we love you and can't wait to see you again.)
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To: bestintxas

First he didn’t want to hear a lot from the people who caused the problems, now that he doesn’t have the votes he is sucking them in to his plan.

he will tell them, give me ideas, he will putthem in his package then tell them to voe for it. Combined with some back room deals, the RINO’s will fall.

here we go .. the GOP needs to stand firm and not fail us now.
But i have doubts especially with people like Olympia Snow.


47 posted on 02/06/2010 9:23:32 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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