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Obama space policy cedes Moon to China, Space Station to Russia and Liberty to the Ages
LUNAR-L list ^ | February 6, 2010 | Former Sen. Harrison H. Schmitt (R-NM)

Posted on 02/06/2010 8:58:52 AM PST by Prospero

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1 posted on 02/06/2010 8:58:53 AM PST by Prospero
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To: Prospero

I’m a defense engineer with over 30 years experience. I have worked on and off with NASA since the early 80’s. They have become an astonishing bloated, bureaucratic, risk-averse mundane organization. Several years ago the Air Force wanted to launch a simple satellite and they had (I’ll say) 1.4 million dollars. They went to NASA and NASA officials laughed and said they couldn’t conduct “The Study” for that much. So, the Air Force took their money to a couple of private companies, none of which had NASA experience. They launched their satellite and it was successful.

I think America would be better served if the present NASA was torn apart and re-invented using corporate models from Intel and Toyota. Barak The Destroyer may have done us all a favor by getting rid of NASA. Now if he’d take on the FCC, FAA, FDA and the rest of the alphabet soup of incompetent bureaucracies we’d all live better and more cheaply.


2 posted on 02/06/2010 9:05:09 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Prospero

Yep, that balanced budget’s right around the corner.


3 posted on 02/06/2010 9:10:15 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Prospero

Well, what’s the worst that could happen if a hostile nation put nuclear weapons in space?


4 posted on 02/06/2010 9:11:36 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("My...health care plan is a Bolshevik plot... which will destroy America." - Barack Obama)
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To: Gen.Blather

I don’t recall hearing Obozo announce that we were pulling out of the international outer space treaty. All these fantasies about privatized space are exactly that till the treaty is gone.

I’m sure Obozo is happy so many are taking heavy slugs from the jug o kool aid.


5 posted on 02/06/2010 9:13:34 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Prospero
What's stunning about this is, he's already spending money like a fleet of drunken sailors. If you're going to have pork barrel government boondoggles, you might as well do something which serves the national good and which individuals could not accomplish by themselves.

I can buy my own health insurance. I can't build a space station or defend the moon from hostile foreign powers.
6 posted on 02/06/2010 9:13:43 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("My...health care plan is a Bolshevik plot... which will destroy America." - Barack Obama)
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To: Prospero

The space program is the only kind of jobs program that has a chance of working. It is a trickle down type of program. You hire a lot of smart, expensive, people to look into building the future. These people need an extensive layer of support. The microprocessor is a legacy of JFK’s space program. The internet, contrary to Al Bore, was an initiative of DARPA.


7 posted on 02/06/2010 9:16:13 AM PST by depressed in 06 (Tea parties today, Lexington tomorrow.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
Well, what’s the worst that could happen if a hostile nation put nuclear weapons in space?

EMP

8 posted on 02/06/2010 9:25:15 AM PST by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: Gen.Blather

“They(NASA)have become an astonishing bloated, bureaucratic, risk-averse mundane organization...”

....I agree...a close family friend retired from there a while back...the energy that once made NASA the envy of the world has long since gone...the goal became self perpetuation....they’ll have plenty of work now though...Obama has directed them generate numbers to prop up his Global Warming agenda.


9 posted on 02/06/2010 9:25:48 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: depressed in 06

You know.... thats exactly it.

We spend the money in research, R+D on a spade program, on the internet.... we make a substantial investment and Obbie just gives it away.

Totally financially irresponsible. Equally politically irresponsible as well.

Why should America pay for it and give it away?
How many other things are the same... where he is giving away America?

What a asshat! He has no respect for capital, specially America’s!


10 posted on 02/06/2010 9:30:34 AM PST by himno hero
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Kinda like sending Louis and Clark out on their expedition to collect info and then giving it to Great Britain.


11 posted on 02/06/2010 9:36:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Prospero

50+ years of leadership in space ditched for reparations. Look what you’ve done, America.


12 posted on 02/06/2010 9:42:25 AM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: Prospero

Lets get this straight dear readers: Whoever controls near Earth space controls the Earth for at least 1000 years or longer. We are determining the long term future of mankind.


13 posted on 02/06/2010 9:48:31 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: STONEWALLS

NASA itself requires an overhaul. It is very bureaucratic and unresponsive. (Recall that all generalities are false) NASA still has lost its edge, and it does require a major shakeup.


14 posted on 02/06/2010 9:51:48 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: cripplecreek

or chavez


15 posted on 02/06/2010 10:07:41 AM PST by himno hero
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To: SCalGal

I would be really surprised if WE did NOT have nuclear weapons in space, or the platform to do so. Would you?


16 posted on 02/06/2010 10:07:50 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I am light skinned and don't speak with a dialect. Can I be President?)
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Don’t need nukes in space. All you need is a rail gun or a way to lob big moon rocks at the earth. Lob a big enough rock, and it will be just as devastating as a nuke.


17 posted on 02/06/2010 10:30:18 AM PST by Josh Painter ("We cannot spare this woman. She fights" - David Karki, regarding Sarah Palin)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

“....you might as well do something which serves the national good and which individuals could not accomplish by themselves.”

The Socialist Left of which Obama is representive is NOT the least bit concerned with the “National good”, only their agenda for controlling our money to use for the purpose of establishing their Socialist Society. They have no illusions of freedom, and Democracy.


18 posted on 02/06/2010 10:57:20 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Or as LBJ put it, “The Roman Empire controlled the world because it could build roads...The British Empire was dominant because it had ships. In the air age, we were powerful because we had airplanes. Now the Communists have established a foothold in outer space. It is not very reassuring to be told that next year we will put a better satellite into the air.”


19 posted on 02/06/2010 11:02:33 AM PST by omega4412
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To: Gen.Blather

While I agree that NASA is increasingly expensive and decreasingly productive, and I agree with a lot of your points, I do have to say how sad it is that this administration is so happy to cut the only America-affirming, American-exceptionalist of all the government agencies short of the US military. It’s like he wants to get rid of anything that addresses the US and glory.


20 posted on 02/06/2010 11:27:54 AM PST by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney? (Don't forget to bring your cameras))
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