Skip to comments.Serving America: Ending don't ask don't tell will draw well-qualified people into military careers
Posted on 02/06/2010 10:14:08 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
Tuesday's unequivocal statement by the Pentagon's top two officials that openly gay men and women shouldn't be barred from serving in the nation's military should be the beginning of the end of an outdated policy.
Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that repealing the Clinton-era "don't ask, don't tell" policy is "the right thing to do" because the policy forces service members to lie about themselves or abandon their careers. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said ending the prohibition is inevitable, because attitudes toward gays have changed among the public and in the military.
Unfortunately, the change likely won't come quickly. Congress must overturn the 17-year-old law, and several Republicans on the Senate committee quickly blasted the idea -- even though some, including Arizona Sen. John McCain, earlier had said they would consider a change if military leaders ever called for it.
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Does anyone recall when the Leftwingtards were meoweling about how shameful it was we had prison guards at Abu Ghraib who were playing homosexual sex games with the prisoners?
It's like they don't remember that.
The real sex problem in the military isn't the absence of gays, it's the existence of perverts who have to be kept out, and keeping them out is going to catch the homosexuals in the same net and they won't even be there.
Wonder what Admiral Mullen does for a hobby?
The military doesn’t generally hire “well-qualified” people. They CREATE well-qualified people out of raw material. Lifting DADT may get them some “well-qualified” doctors and lawyers, but it’s not going to attract gay 18 year olds to wear ugly clothing and be dirty, cold, and tired all the time.
you forgot to put the vomit alert in the title
“Ending ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ will draw well-qualified people into military careers”
(The goal of all of this is to eventually approve homosexual “marriage”....in all states. And it will COST us in the areas of moral fabric, problems for those in the military, and in our economy. Period!)
Soon, we won't have an army, but a weird collection of trannies and other freaks.
Ending dont ask, dont tell will draw well-qualified people into military careers
Ending ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ will drive well-qualified warrior men away from military careers.
Women don’t belong in the fighting military, and neither do these rumpelstilzchens.
Wonder what Admiral Mullen does for a hobby?
LOL, immediately thought of crossdressing.
No it won’t. It’ll chase good people AWAY from the military.
This is nothing but an attempt to get the federal gov’t to recognize marriage and partnership, through medical and on base housing........they (gays) will use this as precident, to sue in every state for marriage citing the federal gov’t.
It will drive well-qualified and morally healthy men and women out of the services.
We don’t need to end DODT, we need to end the female soldier thing, IMHO. There was a news story on last night and my wife asked me what I thought about it. My answer was this, “Let’s see, do those two words really go together, ‘pregnant soldier’?” Be serious. TO satisfy that idiot Senator from Colorado, Patsy Shcroeder, we have foisted a daycare requirement and welfare program on our Armed Forces. What a disaster it has been. Of course none of the “perfumed princes” will admit it.
shall we allow cross dressers and then give them their own rooms and bathrooms? .
No one is discriminated against, the don’t ask is what homosexuals say they want and that is to keep their sexual perverted lifestyle private.
Gettign rid of don’t ask will not bring anything positive to the military and yet will bring a hell of a lot of problems
we have wars to be fought, we have Iran, N Korea, we have military cuts, we have China becoming a world power where we are not soon and yet Gates and the white hosue think this is important
If anyone is asking why is he dong this then the answer is easy
the military stands for traditions and morals , that is something the homosexuals hate
secondly Clinton failed like with the health care so obama is trying to prove and say look I passed what Clinton could not
this is all about gong against Clinton , remember when asked why he was doing this and that Clinton failed he replied “because you have me now”
Instead of the poorly qualified straight people who are in the military now? Is that what you mean? Because that is what you implied.
Some people just need to be slapped.
I served and would not serve again if they allowed open homo’s in the military, I do not want to witness homo parties on base, or homo pride parades nor do I want to share a room, shower etc with a homo.
I know guys still in who said they will leave and my two sons have now said they will not join either along with a couple of their friends .
so all they will do is to create problems in the military and will see a decline of good men and women not wanting to join but of course that doesn’t bother obama because he intends to build his million strong civilian security force to match that of the military and to be just as well funded
not one person I know serving and wanting to serve will stay or join if don’t ask gets overturned.
this is an attack on our military while they fight two wars and being defunded on many different fronts
At least 8 generations of military service in this family. I will be the last of the line if they allow gay soldiers in the ranks.
we were in the Arctic and it was the time when the orders came down to lets see how women will be in the service
we were deployed into minus 70 for a few days living in snowholes
she could not carry her pack, she went on her period, she left a scent for animals to follow, we had to wait a few times for her to be ready or go somewhere for a piss or crap.
we had a couple of guys always trying to get into her panties and want sex where she flirted back knowing they will carry her pack etc.
when we got back to base we were asked off the higher brass how was she and we all said it was a useless experiment.
guess what the top brass ignored us and so they went in.
Homosexuals is all about sex and sexual pleasure, it is sick and no way do I as a vet want this overtured
I’ll say they should not serve anyway but that’s me
After twenty years of service and another eleven in support of the service...I’ve come to agree on DADT. In fact, there could be one or two slight changes and it’d probably satisfy everyone and fix all problems. Note, you have jealous lovers who now run...dump evidence on a guy who kept his mouth shut...and the jealous lover screws over the guy. It would fix this issue if the rule was to discount and throw out jealous lover report unless it involved an actual security violation or such.
The truth is...the less you have guys talking about their normal or irregular sexual practices...the better off you are. It makes no sense for anyone to have to stand there and listen to some guy go into great detail about comparing his lady lover over his current wife.
IMHO, the whole purpose of abolishing don't-ask-don't-tell is opening the door for lawsuits. Lots and lots of lawsuits:
I think most gay military people are in support units anyway; just a career for them. I don't figure they'd last too long other than in support units though. This is all just political bull, shouldn't even be addressed.
I remember the one queer guy at Bragg, he was ok, didn't cause any problems, professional and all; then he got busted down on Hay Street in Fayetteville dressed like a woman, they tried charging him for prostitution. Ha, he never lived that one down; pretty hilarious actually.
So many more important issues they should be concerned about.
my ancestors have always served from what I know the first world war to korea to me and now my two sons will not be joining if this is overturned
THEY ARE NOT BARRED FROM SERVING, NOW!
The media, the lefitists, the gays/homosexuals & Obama completely misrepresent the debate. Gay Americans are not denied the right to serve the country they love because of who they are.
What they are prohibited from doing is flaunting their sexuality. The Pentagons policy guidelines on homosexuals in the Military state:
Sexual orientation will not be a bar to service unless manifested by homosexual conduct. The military will discharge members who engage in homosexual conduct, which is defined as a homosexual act, a statement that the member is homosexual or bisexual, or a marriage or attempted marriage to someone of the same gender.
Its open homosexuality that the military prohibits.
It’s not even about that, it’s about benefits and getting sex change operations paid for....lawsuits to be filed against our military...the continued attack from the inside...yes, they are in our Capitol, congress, pentagon, media, army and white house. They lie in wait.
You are absolutely correct...as we have many friends who report the same. This would be disastrous for our military ....and for our nation!
It might attract some qualified clothing designers and hairdressers that could improve the military’s image ;-)
I can hear the argument now, “It is okay for homos to openly serve in the military, but they can’t get married?”
ADM Mullens’ reputation as a yes man proceeds him. Great- just another reason that I tell young people to join the Corps vice the navy, which I was associated with for 30 years. At least the Corps has the fortitude to say no at this point. The navy is just a social engineering experiment. We have gone away from being war fighters to just placating society in general. I saw the beginnings of this years ago as a midshipman, when skin color dictated the harshness of punishment. As for having homosexuals (gay is not the proper term, there is nothing gay about it) openly serve in the military, this would be the final straw. Sorry, having deviants openly parade aboard ship or next to me in an cockpit (no pun intended) would make me cringe. No it is not homophobia, which technically means I am afraid of queers, it is just that I do not approve of the behavior. If they want to blow pipe, great, but, not in, what used to be, my navy. Heaven help us.
I live in a Navy town (but got out of the Navy 20+ years ago) and judging from the drastic uniform changes every few months the Navy is trying, I think the “clothing design corps” is already working at full strength!
They will co**suck their way up the chain of command.
this is an attack on our military while they fight two wars and being de-funded on many different fronts
Agreed. As others have correctly noted, this insane policy, if actually implemented, would absolutely destroy the morale of the mostly-heterosexual military, give homosexuals a basis for demanding 'gay marriage' be legalized in every state - or federally - and have a devastating effect on military enlistments (in an all-volunteer military) as well as triggering massive numbers of retirements. Homosexuality is a perversion and simply incompatible with a heterosexual society, which pretty much defines the U.S. military.
Secretary Gates and Admiral Mullen are out of touch with reality if they believe that the U.S. military can accommodate openly homosexual men (and women) into the armed services with no disruptions or negative consequences. Homosexuals are infamous for their insatiable sexual appetites and to believe such people can be integrated into a military structure with young, virile men (to whom the word 'gay' is an epithet) borders on sheer delusion.
I'm especially disappointed that Admiral Mullen endorses this troubling policy. I won't speculate on his motives or those of Secretary Gates (an Obama appointee) but I have to assume they're acquiescing to what they claim to believe is a 'changed view' of homosexuality by most Americans but in reality, they're doing a great disservice to the military and, by extension, their country. This is tragic.
And, to top it off, they will be in the whole chain of command from the Pentagon on down.
The dirty secret is that liberals hate the all-volunteer military, and many would love to bring back a draft. And indeed if having homos discourages people from signing up, there may be no choice but to bring back the draft.
One full blown all out shooting war will clear the military of the flamboyant, in your face screechy poofters. They will either be killed by combat because they are incompetent, fragged, commit suicide or get dishonorable discharges.
My guess is that the asshat who wrote the editorial was never in the service.
Yeah, a real morale booster to come strolling into the barracks and catch Billy stroking Bob.
One other note... It’s been sixty odd years, but maybe it is time for another REVOLT OF THE ADMIRALS. I wish some would take a stand for what is right, instead of kowtowing to liberal mandates. Yet, all I hear is nothing.
You are correct, this piece argues in static terms that great things will happen as a result of this change. There are many things which would have to be worked out, and it would be a very difficult process. I am glad that I am no longer on active duty so I don’t have to listen to some homosexual Commissar do sensitivity training for hours telling me that my entire belief system is wrong. This is moving from tolerance to acceptance to special treatment.
The military is supposed to make a man out of you, not a ‘’girly-man’’ of you.
You make an EXCELLENT point.
Everything you say is true. Gays are never content to “live and let live”. Well, some may be, but the activist self-loathing narcissist types aren’t. This will mean the end of the American military as we know it. It will cease to be an effective fighting force. If gays were really only interested in fighting for the USA, they’d STFU and serve.