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Mother jailed for biting midwife during birth
Nine News ^ | February 7, 2010 | Ninemsn staff

Posted on 02/06/2010 7:50:37 PM PST by myknowledge

A Welsh mother has been jailed after she bit a midwife who was helping to deliver her baby.

Leanne Pennington, 26, was sentenced to 20 weeks in jail after sinking her teeth into the arm of 41-year-old midwife Carolyn Burden during the final stages of labour at Prince Charles Hospital in Merthyr Tydfil last May, news website southwales.co.uk reports.

Mrs Burden, herself a mother of four, went back to help deliver the baby after receiving first aid treatment.

Pennington, classified a "high risk patient", admitted to the assault which left Mrs Burden with a swollen and bruised arm.

"It was completely out of the blue," Mrs Burden told southwales.co.uk.

"I was taking care of the woman in labour and she bit me.

Mrs Burden was forced to undergo six months of HIV and hepatitis tests, which turned out negative.

The midwife has since returned to work, but is still troubled by the incident, saying it made her feel "very vulnerable".


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: childbirth; midwife; napl; uk; wales
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1 posted on 02/06/2010 7:50:37 PM PST by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge

Wouldnt it have been faster just to test the patient for HIV ???


2 posted on 02/06/2010 7:54:46 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: myknowledge

This one just begs for more detail. LOTS more detail.


3 posted on 02/06/2010 7:55:15 PM PST by BuckyKat
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To: myknowledge
She was delivering a baby. OK. And she was bit. I'm trying to picture why she was near Mom's mouth.

I understand from the article that she got treatment and went back for the delivery but......she was waiting at the wrong end.

4 posted on 02/06/2010 7:59:19 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: myknowledge

Midwives...scary.


5 posted on 02/06/2010 7:59:38 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: myknowledge

http://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/boston-police-zombie-defense


6 posted on 02/06/2010 7:59:43 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (We are unable to transmit through conscious neural interference.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

She appears to have been working at the wrong end.


7 posted on 02/06/2010 8:00:05 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Have you ever been in a room when a baby is being born?

There alot more going on than just waiting at the foot of a bed.


8 posted on 02/06/2010 8:01:18 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: familyop

Actually no - not scary at all.


9 posted on 02/06/2010 8:01:51 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: DJ MacWoW

Considering the state of healthcare perhaps Mom was trying to show her that she was at the wrong end.


10 posted on 02/06/2010 8:03:17 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: BuckyKat

Making someone feel “vulnerable” is a crime?


11 posted on 02/06/2010 8:03:18 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: USNBandit

I’ve delivered 3 and never had a doctor or nurse near my mouth. Things that make ya go hmmmmm.


12 posted on 02/06/2010 8:03:20 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Scotswife

I’ve given birth 3 times and was there for every one. :-) No one came near my mouth.


13 posted on 02/06/2010 8:05:06 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Good thing she didn’t have a blank do not resuscitate order in her file. She wouldn’t have made it home at all.


14 posted on 02/06/2010 8:05:09 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

To put any appendage near a birthing mothers mouth during childbirth is stupidity. I think the midwife should be punished for incompetence.


15 posted on 02/06/2010 8:05:41 PM PST by doc1019 (To call Obama a bumbling idiot would be an insult to bumbling idiots worldwide.)
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To: driftdiver
Considering the state of healthcare perhaps Mom was trying to show her that she was at the wrong end.

And did it in a very testy way. lol

16 posted on 02/06/2010 8:06:08 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: myknowledge

I mangled the stand for the bed control, that looked like a car suspension spring, when I had my son. I also almost tore my DH’s pants off. That’s what being in that much pain does. It turns one into something like the incredible Hulk, with little ability to really control what’s going on. I don’t think I would have bitten anyone though.


17 posted on 02/06/2010 8:07:01 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: Scotswife

I help to birth all three of my children and all 3 grandchildren.

The mid wife was at the wrong end of the pt.


18 posted on 02/06/2010 8:07:02 PM PST by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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To: driftdiver

Mmmm yeah!


19 posted on 02/06/2010 8:07:41 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: doc1019

Mom got jail time. For biting during the last stages of labor.


20 posted on 02/06/2010 8:08:42 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Not if the patient herself has the virus at undetectable levels.

A test of both patient and the victim would be the best way to guarantee accuracy.


21 posted on 02/06/2010 8:09:11 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: dajeeps
I also almost tore my DH’s pants off. That’s what being in that much pain does.

That's how you got in that situation in the first place!

22 posted on 02/06/2010 8:10:49 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

You’re right, but I did with a lot more grace.


23 posted on 02/06/2010 8:12:19 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: DJ MacWoW

My original posting stands.


24 posted on 02/06/2010 8:12:44 PM PST by doc1019 (To call Obama a bumbling idiot would be an insult to bumbling idiots worldwide.)
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To: doc1019

Sorry that I wasn’t clear. I agree. But Mom got the jail time.


25 posted on 02/06/2010 8:14:36 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: myknowledge

Considering everything, the midwife should just be thankful she didn’t bite her arm off.


26 posted on 02/06/2010 8:14:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance (TATBO - "Throw All The Bums Out")
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To: myknowledge

hubby says that I tried to bite him when giving birth to our first child. Something about the urge to push adn bear down.....I don’t know.


27 posted on 02/06/2010 8:16:08 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Sarah speaks for me!)
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To: myknowledge

Bite toy... works equally well for dogs and pregnant women
28 posted on 02/06/2010 8:16:38 PM PST by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I’ve given birth 3 times and was there for every one. :-) No one came near my mouth.

I'll bet if they did you'd bite them, too.

29 posted on 02/06/2010 8:20:26 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: myknowledge

After my 26 1/2 hours of labor and 2 1/2 of hard contractions, if someone had gotten near my mouth, I probably would have bitten her too.

I would say the midwife was inexperienced with women in labor. I could have easily bitten through the bed rails.


30 posted on 02/06/2010 8:22:29 PM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: myknowledge

jailing the mother? That is outrageous.

I apparently slugged the nurse who was helping me, I had no idea until later...Weird things happen while giving birth.


31 posted on 02/06/2010 8:23:25 PM PST by Burlem
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To: the invisib1e hand

Actually I was too busy pushing to bite. I just wanted it over with. But during my second labor, the woman across the hall kept saying “NeveragainNeveragainNeveragain”, called her husband dirty names and threw things. She kept the nurses busy.


32 posted on 02/06/2010 8:24:55 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: myknowledge

If they’re not going to have an epidermal they need a leather strap to bite on.

(ducking! I was there for both mine being launched into the world)


33 posted on 02/06/2010 8:26:27 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: USNBandit
She appears to have been working at the wrong end.

Perhaps not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagina_dentata
34 posted on 02/06/2010 8:26:47 PM PST by Rastus
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To: myknowledge

It is a good thing both of my arms were restrained on the delivery table for I seriously considered riping my husband’s nads off his body—all three times.

The sad truth is if I could have moved my arms, I would have tried. Well, sad for him. I find it funny. :-)

Assuming there is nothing more to the story, the midwife made herself vulnerable. Wonder if the midwife delivered the baby and then went to press charges?

Rather than jail the mother, the midwife needs to be punished for stupidity.


35 posted on 02/06/2010 8:30:56 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: dajeeps; mockingbyrd; the invisib1e hand; netmilsmom; Burlem; Protect the Bill of Rights

With our first, my wife bit me on the shoulder—she was standing and leaning against me while pushing through a contraction. It would be interesting to know if it was a medicated or unmedicated child birth—DW is very much into natural childbirth (we have had four), which may have some drawbacks but certainly draws stares of admiration//questioning of sanity from many.


36 posted on 02/06/2010 8:42:51 PM PST by Hieronymus
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To: GeronL
Making someone feel “vulnerable” is a crime?

When medicine is socialized, practitioners are demigods.

And, apparently, you get a midwife instead of a physician.

37 posted on 02/06/2010 8:46:50 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: DJ MacWoW
But during my second labor, the woman across the hall kept saying “NeveragainNeveragainNeveragain”, called her husband dirty names and threw things. She kept the nurses busy.

"My wife stood up in the stirrups, grabbed my bottom lip and said "I want morphine!" I said "But, dear —" [vigorously breathing]. She said "You shut up! YOU did this to me!" And on the next contraction she told everybody in the delivery room that my parents were never married." - Bill Cosby

38 posted on 02/06/2010 8:49:33 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Scotswife

Yes, the concept of midwives isn’t scary at all.


39 posted on 02/06/2010 8:55:41 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: dajeeps

We all have our own ways of dealing with drama. My first child was born 30 minutes after I entered the hospital. I have had three kids and never yelled nor bit anyone.

My daughter, married to an ER Physican, delivered her child within 28 minutes of arriving at the hospital.

It’s all in your mind. Not your teeth. No drama=no trauma.


40 posted on 02/06/2010 8:58:14 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: dajeeps

We all have our own ways of dealing with drama. My first child was born 30 minutes after I entered the hospital. I have had three kids and never yelled nor bit anyone.

My daughter, married to an ER Physican, delivered her child within 28 minutes of arriving at the hospital.

It’s all in your mind. Not your teeth. No drama=no trauma.


41 posted on 02/06/2010 9:01:43 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: JouleZ

I absolutely hate double posts. Once again, I apologize. Let’s hope it doesn’t appear twice.


42 posted on 02/06/2010 9:03:41 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Yes you will. I have seen reports of a woman who had a baby on the sidewalk after an ambulance was refused and of babies born in stairwells and hallways at crowded hospitals.

Socialist medicine is NOT good.


43 posted on 02/06/2010 9:04:21 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Oh and few semi-private rooms, they can have wards of 50 or so patients. Good thing H1N1 was a scam, imagine how that could spread from patient to patient.


44 posted on 02/06/2010 9:05:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
Good thing H1N1 was a scam

Yeah, that sort of blew over, didn't it? Eclipsed by more pressing political disasters for the Powers.

45 posted on 02/06/2010 9:20:35 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: myknowledge

this is just more anti-birther propaganda.


46 posted on 02/06/2010 9:26:29 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Wouldnt it have been faster just to test the patient for HIV ???

that's my thought... or the biter...

47 posted on 02/06/2010 9:30:55 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: myknowledge

Okay folks, simmer down.

First of all, midwives are actually optimal for normal deliveries: one of my wife’s three were with a midwife and as far as care, she far outshone both the first ob-gyn who wanted to get home early and gave her pitocin to speed things up or even the female ob-gyn who assisted with the third. So no, having midwives assist in the delivery of babies is not another mark against socialized medicine—actually the fact that it’s hard to impossible for midwives to practice in most states is a blot against our trial-lawyer-and-physicians-guild-monopoly pseudo-free-market approach to medicine.

Part of the reason is that midwives don’t medicalize the normal process of childbirth and act as if they’re treating a disease: they make a point of caring for the mother as well as delivering the baby.

Doubtless the midwife in the report was trying to do something soothing or moving the mother in a helpful way (believe it or not they generally know ergonomic tricks for aiding in labor—a variety of postures besides the lying down so gravity isn’t helping that physicians favor), when a particularly nasty contraction hit and the mother bit her.

Quite frankly I regard this as another example of the law being an ass: considering a mother in labor lashing out in any way as assault is, well, asinine.


48 posted on 02/06/2010 9:32:07 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: familyop

I’ve given birth to four babies- the last by midwife. Out of those four births, the only one that I would *almost* repeat is the fourth. The third OB-GYN should have been just about sued for malpractice, as my daughter’s nose was broken (my regular doctor who was on vacation said it was lucky her shoulder wasn’t separated or worse), and my pelvis was separated, due to her stupid decisions and God complex.

Who knows about the midwives in the UK, but I loved mine, and if God ever thought to be funny and give us a 5th child, I would go back to a midwife without a thought.


49 posted on 02/06/2010 9:34:57 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: JouleZ

Good post. Same here.


50 posted on 02/06/2010 9:38:34 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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