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Another Look at Obama's Origins
American Thinker ^ | 2-7-2010 | Jack Cashill - Commentary

Posted on 02/06/2010 10:45:49 PM PST by smoothsailing


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February 07, 2010

Another Look at Obama's Origins

By Jack Cashill

The murky circumstances of Obama's birth invite attempts to make the known facts fit together. This article was prompted by two emails.  The first asked me why I had never weighed in on the birth certificate controversy surrounding President Barack Obama. 

I responded that although I was troubled by the lack of documentation regarding all phases of Obama's history -- I'd be content with his SAT scores -- I could not understand why any pregnant American woman would go anywhere near Kenya.

The second email was more interesting.  It came from a Michigan entrepreneur named Don Wilkie, with whom I had not previously communicated.  Knowing my interest in the authorship questions surrounding Obama's writing, he presumed that I was intrigued as he was by a cryptic poem the 19-year old Obama wrote called "Pop," the best thing that Obama himself has actually written.  He was right.

"Pop" relates an encounter between Obama and a man most reviewers presume to be Obama's maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham.  Dunham would have been in his early 60's at the time.  In the poem, Obama has "Pop" wondering drunkenly about the boy, "What to do with me, a green young man." 

The Obama of the poem is cynical, even a little bitter.  He makes several allusions to the fact that he and the old man look and even smell alike, a fact that strikes Obama as more ironic than reassuring.  The poem ends, however, with reconciliation when Pop stands and asks for a hug.  Writes Obama:

I see my face, framed within


Pop's black-framed glasses


And know he's laughing too.

Wilkie offers a novel interpretation of "Pop." Says Wilkie, "I think the poem zeros in on that poignant moment when Obama was told that his grandfather was in reality his father."

Wilkie concedes his theory is "off-the-wall," but he also offers photographic evidence to show that Obama much more closely resembles Dunham -- especially the telltale ears --than he does Barack Obama, Sr. 

Intriguing as the theory is, I t hought it would be easy to disprove.  I was wrong.  For starters, in his 1995 memoir Dreams From My Father, Obama refers to his grandfather not as "Pop," but as "Gramps." If he were writing about his grandfather in this poem, the title "Pop" may very well be suggestive of a more direct kinship.

For another, there is little known about the marriage between Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama's presumed mother, and Barack Obama Sr.  According to most accounts, Dunham and Barack Sr. were married on the Hawaiian island of Maui -- in some reports on February 2, 1961, in others on February 21.

Obama knows little about the wedding.  He writes in Dreams, "In fact, how and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I've never quite had the courage to explore. There's no record of a real wedding, a cake, a ring, a giving away of the bride."

In his fair-minded biography, Barack and Michelle: Portrait of an American Marriage, Christopher Andersen concedes, "There were certainly no witnesses -- no family members were present; and none of their friends at the university had the slightest inkling they were even engaged."

Another conflicting bit of evidence is that at the time of his alleged marriage to Ann Dunham, Barack Sr. had a pregnant wife and a son back in Kenya.  There is more.  In July 2008, speaking at a university roundtable, Michelle Obama said of Barack's mother that she was "very young and very single when she had him."  This could well have been a slip of the tongue, but it may not have been.

Obama was reportedly born roughly six months after the February wedding date on August 4, 1961.  Andersen reports that Barack Sr. drove Ann to Honolulu's Kapiloani Hospital for Women and Children to have the baby.

Andersen's account, however, suffers from chronology problems.  He relates that Ann told the Dunhams of her pregnancy in "late October."  Even if she had she been impregnated in early October -- it probably would have been earlier -- Obama's official birth date came ten months later.

In any scenario, Obama had at least one black parent, and if it is not Obama Sr., who then is it?  Obama offers a possible clue in Dreams

I was intrigued by old Frank, with his books and whiskey breath and the hint of hard-earned knowledge behind the hooded eyes. The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn't fully understand. The same thing I felt whenever Gramps took me downtown to one of his favorite bars, in Honolulu's red-light district.

The "Frank" in question is Frank Marshall Davis, a black communist, pornographer and poet who had abandoned Chicago for Hawaii.  In "Pop," it should be noted, the Pop character "recites an old poem just before the reconciliation and reeks of whiskey.  Davis would have been in his mid-70's at the time.  Some have theorized that Davis, in fact, is Obama's father and the "Pop" of the poem.  This theory, though tenuous, cannot be ruled out.  A grandson can look more like his maternal grandfather than his father. That happens.  And then too there is Davis's Chicago connection.

The "Frank" passage and the ones that follow, however, tell us something suggestive about Stanley Dunham, namely that he frequented otherwise all-black bars in an area rife with prostitution.  That a black woman -- perhaps a friend of Davis's -- gave birth to a child of Dunham's may explain "the complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men."  If this were the case, it would have caused far less societal stress for Ann Dunham to assume maternity of her little brother than for Stanley Dunham to assume paternity of his son. 

We also know that Stanley Dunham so desperately wanted a boy that he named his only child "Stanley Ann." That he chose to raise the young Barack would not have been out of character.

Is it possible that Barack Sr. obliged the Dunhams and went along with the charade?  If so, as Andrew Young attests in The Politician, he would not have been the last good friend to claim false paternity for a larger cause.

As a Kenyan, Barack Sr. would have given the boy more than a name. He would give him a distinctive identity as an "African," a more respected ethnicity in the America of the 1960's than "Negro." Indeed, Obama has built his career around his exotic identity.  Were he named after an American father, say "Darnell Johnson," he may never have been elected president.

This hypothetical extended charade would help explain why Barack Sr. blithely blew off his new family when he headed for Harvard a year later, rejecting a reported opportunity to take both wife and child to New York, and began dating as soon as he arrived at Harvard. It would explain too why Ann Dunham felt free to leave young Barack with her parents for years at a time when her career beckoned.

Barack Sr.'s cooperation would also put Stanley Dunham's fondness for him in perspective.  In Dreams, Gramps speaks so respectfully of his prodigal son-in-law that the whole opening sequence rings false to anyone who knows the larger story.  A man, a black man at that, has knocked up Dunham's daughter.  Ann and Barack Sr. marry despite reported opposition from both families. The man then abandons wife and child, and the grandfather can only sing his praises to the man's son.  This makes no sense at all and would have made even less sense in the racially charged 1960s.

Jerome Corsi of WorldNetDaily has found additional evidence that argues against Obama's birth to Ann Dunham in August 1961.  As the records clearly show, "Stanley Ann Dunham" enrolled for classes at the University of Washington at Seattle on August 19, 1961, fifteen days after Obama's presumed birth. It defies all logic--and logistics as well--that Dunham would have flown her newborn across the Pacific, found an apartment and a job and enrolled at class all within two weeks of the birth.

Most accounts put young Barack with Dunham in Seattle when she was attending college, but the sourcing on these accounts is suspect.  One person cited often is Dunham's good childhood friend, Maxine Box.  In February 2008, Box told the Seattle Times that the last time she saw Dunham was "in 1961," when, says Times reporter Nicole Brodeur, "[Dunham] visited Seattle on her way from Honolulu to Massachusetts, where her then-husband was attending Harvard." 

"She seemed very happy and very proud," Box tells the Times of Dunham." She had this beautiful, healthy baby. I can see them right now."

There are any number of problems with this account beginning with the fact that Barack Sr. did not attend Harvard until the fall of 1962.  Box also gives no sense that Dunham lived in Seattle or attended classes there through the winter and spring sessions of 1962 as records show she did.  Whether Dunham was actually heading for Harvard, we have no real way of knowing. 

A seeming hole in Andersen's account is that he missed the Washington adventure and has Ann remaining in Hawaii through Obama's first few years.  He makes no mention of any trip to Harvard by Ann.

One other scenario makes sense out of a falsely assumed paternity by Barack Sr.  This begins with the abrupt departure of the Dunham family from the Seattle area in the late summer 1960.  In Dreams, Obama tells how pleased the senior Dunhams were with the success of Ann in high school, but Stanley forbade her to go to the University of Chicago, "deciding that she was still too young to be living on her own."


Soon thereafter, however, the family decamped for Hawaii. 

"Something must have still been gnawing at my grandfather's heart," writes Obama.  He attributes the move to his wanderlust and the "limitless" prospects offered by a new furniture store in Honolulu.   Adds Obama, "He would rush home that same day and talk my grandmother into selling their house and packing up yet again."

What Obama does not mention is that even at this time his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, likely earned more than her furniture salesman husband.  To move, she had to give up her job as a bank officer in Seattle.  Arriving in Honolulu, she worked as a by-the-hour bank teller.  This job would, however, have given her the opportunity to tend to the young Barack. 

It seems altogether possible that the progressive and adventurous 17 year-old Dunham was impregnated by a black man while the family was still living in the Seattle area. If so, this pregnancy could have prompted the family to uproot to Hawaii where no one knew them and where mixed-race babies were more accepted.  According to the Andersen account, whose source was Maxine Box, "There were loud arguments between father and daughter -- fights that sometimes turned violent."  Ann did not want to go.

Both the "Dunham as father" and the "anonymous black father" scenarios would make the Obama camp wary of sharing Obama's actual birth certificate, either because Dunham was not Obama's mother or, if she were, because Obama was born much earlier than August 4, 1961. 

If Obama were born, say, in February or March 1961, it would clarify why, as documented, Dunham attended the University of Hawaii at Manoa in the fall semester of 1960 but not in the spring semester of 1961.  This timetable would have also allowed Dunham enough time to recover and prepare for a return to college in Seattle in August with or without the baby.  Dunham would not return to the University of Hawaii until 1963.  She filed for divorce in 1964, and little was heard from Barack Sr. ever again.

Scientists use the phrase "inference to the best explanation" to illuminate an unproven phenomenon. Given the available evidence, including the fact that some evidence has been strategically withheld, one can infer that Obama likely was born in Hawaii but that Ann Dunham did not give birth to Barack Obama Sr.'s child on August 4, 1961.

So much depends on Obama's fabled "story," however, that the mainstream media have chosen not investigate.  When Christopher Andersen tried, he found himself immersed in a swamp of conflicting and concocted stories that tested the savvy of even a veteran biographer. 

And so Obama's birth remains a mystery a year after his inauguration.  The mainstream media meanwhile have paid more attention to the origins of Trig Palin than to those of the president, and have spent their excess energy mocking those who do the reporting they once did. 

If my humble efforts to clarify matters make me a "birther," so be it.


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1 posted on 02/06/2010 10:45:49 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

I got a headache reading that theory.


2 posted on 02/06/2010 10:52:58 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: smoothsailing

BTTT


3 posted on 02/06/2010 10:53:23 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: smoothsailing

Uhm... “Pops” Dunham is white, right? Or, am I missing something?

Cheers


4 posted on 02/06/2010 10:56:15 PM PST by DoctorBulldog
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To: smoothsailing

From the article:
The “Frank” passage and the ones that follow, however, tell us something suggestive about Stanley Dunham, namely that he frequented otherwise all-black bars in an area rife with prostitution. That a black woman — perhaps a friend of Davis’s — gave birth to a child of Dunham’s may explain “the complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men.” If this were the case, it would have caused far less societal stress for Ann Dunham to assume maternity of her little brother than for Stanley Dunham to assume paternity of his son.

It seems finally there’s a theory that makes it sensible for Obama to hide his parentage and yet be a natural born citizen. It sure took them long enough.


5 posted on 02/06/2010 10:58:41 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: smoothsailing

Man, them dang ‘birthers’ is just poppin’ up everywhere!


6 posted on 02/06/2010 10:59:09 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... www.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: smoothsailing
I could not understand why any pregnant American woman would go anywhere near Kenya.

That seems plausible. A pregnant woman from the US would have to be crazy to travel to a third world country like Kenya. Of course on the other hand, the Dunhams appear to have had many screws loose.

7 posted on 02/06/2010 11:00:08 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: smoothsailing

Obama’s grandmother said Obama was born in Kenya. Grandmoms DO NOT LIE!


8 posted on 02/06/2010 11:01:24 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: DoctorBulldog

‘Looks’ often skip a generation.

It is more likely you will (if a boy) have facial features of your grandfather, rather than your father.

And yeah.... the fact that Pops at least appears to be white (whatever ‘white’ means) kinda ruins the whole father/daughter incest story.


9 posted on 02/06/2010 11:02:38 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Doctor Don
"Obama’s grandmother said Obama was born in Kenya."

No. She didn't.
10 posted on 02/06/2010 11:03:34 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: Doctor Don
Obama’s grandmother said Obama was born in Kenya. Grandmoms DO NOT LIE!

But Grandmoms can get confused, particularly if they have 50 different grandkids.

11 posted on 02/06/2010 11:05:51 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Dude, you’re straining our intellect with this one...


12 posted on 02/06/2010 11:06:06 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: EnderWiggins
" No. She didn't. "

How is that so ? .. please explain ?
13 posted on 02/06/2010 11:06:25 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Gene Eric

LOL!


14 posted on 02/06/2010 11:08:29 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

*hic*

Whew....K.I.S.S. SADO and Obama Sr. are the parents of the demon spawn. That I have no doubt whatsoever.

Why won’t Ogabe release his birth certificate?

The only reason I can conclude from everything I’ve seen and read is because it’s a game changer, a career ender....prison time. If he even has one.

If this scumbag is brazen enough to have Bill Ayers write his ‘best-selling’ books which launched him into the Oval Orfice, would he be cocky enough to run for Potus knowing that he was never eligible?


15 posted on 02/06/2010 11:12:02 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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To: smoothsailing

I could not understand why any pregnant American woman would go anywhere near Kenya.
__________________________________________

Except Stanley Ann Dunham was not your average “pregnant American woman”

She was an impulse promiscuous teenager...


16 posted on 02/06/2010 11:12:47 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kevmo

>> It seems finally there’s a theory ...

The irony of the “theory” would be that Obama is indeed a natural born citizen assuming the “friend of Davis’” is/was an American.

If the “theory” were true, I would understand the desire to suppress the information for fear of embarrassment or unjust criticism - Steve had little to say about the determination of his existence.

The “theory” also provides an interesting rationale for the birth announcements released in the local papers.


17 posted on 02/06/2010 11:22:27 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: UCANSEE2

He’s suggesting the possibility that Gramps could have impregnated a black woman, possibly a prostitute, and that he had his daughter assume the motherhood of his son. there is a photo of young Stanley in uniform with his wife during the War. He looks exactly like 0.


18 posted on 02/06/2010 11:25:18 PM PST by Albertafriend
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks for posting the article. The only thing that I know for sure about Obama is that he lies about everything all the time. Nothing else will ever suprise me.

Some of the other commenters here would do well to actually read the complete article. Mr. Cashill never suggests that Obama was the product of an incestuous relationship. He suggests that the timeline cannot be reconciled with the conflicting stories about Obama’s birth and that one possible explanation is that Stanley Anne was not Obama’s mother but his sister. One of several theories presented is that Obama was the product of a sexual encounter between Stanley Sr. and an unknown black woman.

I am not actually sure what Mr. Cashill was hoping to accomplish other than pointing out that the official stories about Obama’s birth and early childhood conflict with what is supposedly known about the timeline and with each other. A very complicated web has been woven... it is possible that even the Liar and Chief doesn’t know all of the details.


19 posted on 02/06/2010 11:27:16 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Except Stanley Ann Dunham was not your average “pregnant American woman”

She was an impulse promiscuous teenager...


Exactly

SADO: "Barack, I'm pregnant. My parents are going to kill me"

Bararck Sr: "Don't worry my little African Queen....Come away with me to my Luo village in Kenya. There will be no white devils to judge you there"
20 posted on 02/06/2010 11:28:14 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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To: smoothsailing

I was only sixteen then...

If born in November 1942, as we are asked to believe, this event would have taken place in 1958. Pregnancy in late 1958 places the birth around August 1959.

Barack Obama Sr arrived in Hawaii in the middle of 1959. Something doesn't add up, does it?

21 posted on 02/06/2010 11:32:32 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Electric Graffiti; Fred Nerks; null and void; rxsid; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...

Ping.

Don’t step in the troll...


22 posted on 02/06/2010 11:35:42 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 380 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: smoothsailing
See that kid in the background? Betcha he's a FReeper.


23 posted on 02/06/2010 11:38:31 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Fred Nerks

And Obama is still 52 on his official MySpace page - as he has been since 2009

http://www.myspace.com/barackobama

Which would make him born in 1957

Male
52 years old
Washington, Washington DC
United States

Last Login: 2/6/2010


24 posted on 02/06/2010 11:40:20 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Electric Graffiti

“because it’s a game changer, a career ender....prison time. If he even has one.”

Yep, they dodge, stall, obfuscate, ridicule, laugh, deny, ignore, muddy the waters, tell half-truths ....

ANYTHING BUT RELEASE A LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE

ANYTHING BUT THAT

ANYTHING ...

They most assuredly have (a) reason(s)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qw9rnVHKhc


25 posted on 02/06/2010 11:43:33 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: CaptainK

“I got a headache reading that theory.”

Father’s Day in the Twilight Zone.


26 posted on 02/06/2010 11:50:17 PM PST by Psalm 144 (HealthControl - the new euthanasia, all the way from Chicago to your family.)
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To: CaptainK

lost me way back there....


27 posted on 02/06/2010 11:52:58 PM PST by matthew fuller (GO GREEN!!! Recycle the Senate and Congress in 2010)
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To: fireman15

There is one early baby photo of Barack II where he looks a lot like Frank Davis. He was married at the time in question and also wrote a pornographic book involving a young girl named “Ann”. That would make BHO a son of a communist pornographer citizen and a natural born citizen.


28 posted on 02/06/2010 11:53:52 PM PST by jahp
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To: smoothsailing

Maybe we should replace “where’s the birth certificate” with “who’s your daddy”?


29 posted on 02/06/2010 11:54:00 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("My...health care plan is a Bolshevik plot... which will destroy America." - Barack Obama)
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To: DoctorBulldog
Uhm... “Pops” Dunham is white, right? Or, am I missing something?

A hypothetical adulterous relationship by “Pops” with a black woman, producing the Obamanation, said child being passed off as the son of “Pops” daughter from a transient marriage with a Kenyan exchange student, who quickly “deserts” her. That's what's being hypothesized.

Umm. It was the early sixties. An illegitimate child was not socially acceptable, much less an illegitimate black child born to a white woman, Hawaii or no. So “Pops” forced her somehow to accept this blot on her reputation, and then she took her "brother" child off to Indonesia when she married for real and she continued to pass it off as her own child? In my opinion not likely.

And what did Mrs. Dunham think about the introduction of her husband's illegitimate child (of any color) into her family life? In my opinion to most women this would be a signal for the fast hiring of a divorce lawyer.

The story's a little too complicated to be believable.

30 posted on 02/06/2010 11:54:52 PM PST by Cheburashka (It's a _happy_ Russian novel. Everybody still dies, but everybody dies happy.)
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To: Albertafriend

Thanks for clearing it up. I didn’t read Cashill’s article that deep as I am watching the Space Shuttle Launch prep.


31 posted on 02/06/2010 11:58:29 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Tennessee Nana
She was an impulse promiscuous teenager...

As far as is known (and I emphasize known, not just imagined, hypothesized, or fantasized) Stanley Ann Dunham had sex with a maximum grand total of two men, Obama Sr. and Soetoro. Please provide any proof you have that she had carnal relations with any man that the was never married to. I doubt you can even prove she had carnal relations with either of her husbands before they were married.

Doesn't fit my definition of promiscuity. And making up fantasies of her promiscuity just because we on Free Republic don't like her son doesn't do us any credit.

32 posted on 02/07/2010 12:12:40 AM PST by Cheburashka (It's a _happy_ Russian novel. Everybody still dies, but everybody dies happy.)
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To: smoothsailing

What was the passage from Dreams about Obama’s grandfather scolding his grandmother over her avoiding a pushy black street hustler? It was strange in that Obama seems to resent him for this.


33 posted on 02/07/2010 12:58:07 AM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
That seems plausible. A pregnant woman from the US would have to be crazy to travel to a third world country like Kenya. Of course on the other hand, the Dunhams appear to have had many screws loose.

Except Ann Dunham liked to run to 3rd world countries all her life so it's no stretch to believe it. No one saw her pregnant about as much of seeing her anywhere in the US.

34 posted on 02/07/2010 1:01:53 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: smoothsailing
0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0's SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.
24 Why did Barack Obama resign from the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why did Michelle Obama resign from the Illinois bar after only about four years of practice and where are all of the relevant documents?

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.


35 posted on 02/07/2010 1:07:19 AM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
We couldn't imagine it (going to Kenya, etc) but for a moment imagine you are an idealistic, deranged, American hating left wing moonbat raised in an environment of all those descriptions. Going to Africa, having a half African child--it's a badge of honor in those circles. The complete repudiation of everything American in one swift act. I have ZERO doubt it is why she had the kid. When the novelty wore off and the attention it reflected back to her lost it's excitement, she ceased raising him and passed the responsibility on to others.

It is so classically the liberal mindset from the turning away from America, to the narcissism, to the selfishness, to the cold detachment from her child. It is a story in itself and it goes a long way to explain the pathologies of this president.

36 posted on 02/07/2010 1:09:46 AM PST by riri (Resistance-It's the New Black)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Of course on the other hand, the Dunhams appear to have had many screws loose.

Right, it goes with my last post to you. I overlooked it... getting late for me.

37 posted on 02/07/2010 1:15:23 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: EnderWiggins

Her statements were recorded for posterity.

AND there is a videotape of Barack Obama saying he was born in Kenya. This occurred during a debate for the Senate seat of Illinois.


38 posted on 02/07/2010 1:22:25 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Cheburashka
Please provide any proof you have that she had carnal relations with any man that the was never married to.

In July 2008, speaking at a university roundtable, Michelle Obama said of Barack's mother that she was "very young and very single when she had him."

The legend is that on February 2, 1961, against Madelyn's hopes, and against the desires of Obama's father back in Kenya, Ann, three months pregnant, and Obama hopped a plane to Maui and got married. The wedding had no witnesses, not even her parents, and no record of the event has yet been found. (more at the link)

39 posted on 02/07/2010 1:39:03 AM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: null and void

BTTT


40 posted on 02/07/2010 1:40:00 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: smoothsailing
BTT

and Aloha Smooth!

He's not local, not kamaaina, not even a malahini. Just a fraud.
41 posted on 02/07/2010 1:42:06 AM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: smoothsailing

present


42 posted on 02/07/2010 1:55:14 AM PST by gunnyg (Just An Old Gunny ~ And *Still* Not A F'n Commie Basterd!)
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To: Cheburashka

But it would give a new light to how he threw grandma under the bus during the race speech, and why he waited almost two months to go to Hawaii after she died.


43 posted on 02/07/2010 1:56:16 AM PST by AliVeritas (IStolen from the best site ever: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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To: fireman15

Something about this article and the comments kicks in a thought for me....It would have been very Alinskyite: maybe the lefties started in on Sarah/Bristol/Trig Palin to diminish anything that might have been on the verge of breaking about Obama and his birth. You know the trick: “Well, that can’t be true about Barack’s birth. Look at what the conspiracy theorists have been doing to POOR (sarcasm on their part) Sarah Palin, saying she’s really Trig’s mom, and not Bristol.”......Very Alinskyite, to start rumors about a foe dangerous to your plans, rumors which indeed mirror a truth about your own side.


44 posted on 02/07/2010 2:00:59 AM PST by line drive to right
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To: smoothsailing

Occam can’t find his razor.

However, I think more plausible is that Ann got knocked up by a black man, maybe in Seattle or Chicago, and they moved to Hawaii because of this racy romance or pregnancy, and then Ann grabbed the first kind black man she met and asked if he would go along with the charade and give her son a name.

This would explain why everything happened so fast with Barack Sr. and also why Barack Junior looks NOTHING like him.


45 posted on 02/07/2010 2:10:31 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: smoothsailing

Anything new before reading?


46 posted on 02/07/2010 2:11:08 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Kirkwood

He was adorable. I wish they had given him up for adoption to two loving parents who would NEVER have abandoned him.


47 posted on 02/07/2010 2:13:31 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: smoothsailing

my Mom and Dad were stationed in hawaii from about 1960-63. my Mom has a few choice words to describe the type of woman 0bama’s mother would have been considered back then.

after reading this story, it paints 0bama’s mother in a very shady red light

and yes, i’m a ‘birther’... since when did seeing an id turn into something just for the little people?


48 posted on 02/07/2010 2:37:35 AM PST by sten
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To: F15Eagle
...I certainly hope by the fourth year of our administration that we'll have dealt with this burgeoning birth controversy.
Gibbs is admitting it's a 'growing' issue and he didn't say how it would be dealt with, just that he hopes that it will be dealt with by the fourth year.
I guess trying to ignore the issue and/or repeated attempts of diversion would be a couple of ways of having 'dealt' with it.

You can't expect it to be handled in a straightforward, transparent manner, ya know. /sarcasm

49 posted on 02/07/2010 2:44:36 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: sten

An army priest told me a white woman who dates black guys has a low self esteem.


50 posted on 02/07/2010 2:48:45 AM PST by bushpilot1
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