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The government has your baby's DNA
CNN ^ | February 4, 2010 | Elizabeth Cohen

Posted on 02/07/2010 6:44:02 AM PST by lost in the snow

(CNN) -- When Annie Brown's daughter, Isabel, was a month old, her pediatrician asked Brown and her husband to sit down because he had some bad news to tell them: Isabel carried a gene that put her at risk for cystic fibrosis.

While grateful to have the information -- Isabel received further testing and she doesn't have the disease -- the Mankato, Minnesota, couple wondered how the doctor knew about Isabel's genes in the first place. After all, they'd never consented to genetic testing.

It's simple, the pediatrician answered: Newborn babies in the United States are routinely screened for a panel of genetic diseases. Since the testing is mandated by the government, it's often done without the parents' consent, according to Brad Therrell, director of the National Newborn Screening & Genetics Resource Center.

In many states, such as Florida, where Isabel was born, babies' DNA is stored indefinitely, according to the resource center.

Many parents don't realize their baby's DNA is being stored in a government lab, but sometimes when they find out, as the Browns did, they take action. Parents in Texas, and Minnesota have filed lawsuits, and these parents' concerns are sparking a new debate about whether it's appropriate for a baby's genetic blueprint to be in the government's possession.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baby; dna; government; parents; privacy; rights; spy; warehouse
This is disturbing on many levels.
1 posted on 02/07/2010 6:44:03 AM PST by lost in the snow
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To: lost in the snow

Ugly stuff.


2 posted on 02/07/2010 6:50:30 AM PST by Radix (I am from Massachusetts, and I voted for Scott Brown. You're welcome.)
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To: Radix

When did this begin? Does anyone know?


3 posted on 02/07/2010 6:53:25 AM PST by Boonie
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To: lost in the snow
Welcome to Gattaca
4 posted on 02/07/2010 6:53:47 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Boonie

Bush signed this one. I forget what its called.


5 posted on 02/07/2010 6:55:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: lost in the snow

Yikes...


6 posted on 02/07/2010 6:55:22 AM PST by Hildy
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To: lost in the snow

Is Obamas on file in Kenya?


7 posted on 02/07/2010 6:57:17 AM PST by BigLittle
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To: lost in the snow
What part do they NOT understand?

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "

I really, really, really have distrust for our so-called government. Nothing but a bunch of g.d. traitors!

8 posted on 02/07/2010 7:14:12 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: lost in the snow

I wonder how this got passed and what the rational was?


9 posted on 02/07/2010 7:17:41 AM PST by red tie
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To: red tie

The rationale was “we have to do it for the children”. Typical excuse for government tyrany.


10 posted on 02/07/2010 7:30:47 AM PST by gunnut
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To: gunnut

Was this a CDC request?


11 posted on 02/07/2010 7:32:18 AM PST by red tie
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To: lost in the snow

Having the DNA on file will eventually help them to determine which babies to forcibly exterminated without the parents’ consent. They’ll see a high risk of disease, poison the uterus, and then tell the mother “I’m sorry but you’ve had a miscarriage”.


12 posted on 02/07/2010 7:34:51 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: unixfox; lost in the snow
I really, really, really have distrust for our so-called government. Nothing but a bunch of g.d. traitors!

WORTH REPEATING!

Thanks for posting.

13 posted on 02/07/2010 7:36:06 AM PST by PGalt
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To: lost in the snow

This much touted computerizing of medical records has much the same risk. Under Obamacare the death panels could have a new tool, your DNA, if you have a genetic disposition to say cancer your “treatment” would be adjusted to be cost effective. Why treat or even test for cancer if you are going to get it anyway. No different than the Nazis who did not want to waste resources for treating or caring for those who were inferior.


14 posted on 02/07/2010 7:38:14 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: lost in the snow
Art Caplan, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania, says he understands why states don't first ask permission to screen babies for genetic diseases. "It's paternalistic, but the state has an overriding interest in protecting these babies," he says.

The state has an overriding interest in protecting these children because it is paternalistic.

If the state had not over time become the father of all of the state’s children it would not need to worry about the welfare of these children because their parents would be the ones responsible for their welfare.

OK government; get out of our lives and let use worry about our children.

15 posted on 02/07/2010 7:40:11 AM PST by Pontiac
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To: Soothesayer
"Having the DNA on file will eventually help them to determine which babies to forcibly exterminated without the parents’ consent. They’ll see a high risk of disease, poison the uterus, and then tell the mother “I’m sorry but you’ve had a miscarriage”."

While most people believe that is a completely ridiculous thing to say they are going to do, there's no denying that this is one more step in that direction.........

16 posted on 02/07/2010 7:40:53 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: lost in the snow

If you join the Armed Forces, your DNA will be kept on file. I’m not sure what happens to it once you leave the Armed Forces.


17 posted on 02/07/2010 7:52:00 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: lost in the snow
The government has your baby's DNA

I'm sure that this information is to "round out" the files that 0bama's Death Panels would need to decide whether you are allowed treatment or euthanasia.

18 posted on 02/07/2010 8:09:35 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Boonie

in some states(like here in the People’s Republic Of MN)
it’s been going on for a while...

MN Commissioner of Health Lobbies for Intrusive “DNA Warehouse” Legislation

http://www.cchconline.org/dnalegislativearchives.php3


19 posted on 02/07/2010 8:21:21 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: lost in the snow

Brave New World or 1984?


20 posted on 02/07/2010 8:22:11 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Liberal vs. Conservative = The vision of man versus the nature of man.)
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To: Boonie; lost in the snow; Radix; Vince Ferrer; cripplecreek; Hildy; BigLittle; unixfox; red tie; ...
You were asking ...

When did this begin? Does anyone know?

Ummmm..., compliments of President George Bush signing the bill into law...

Here is what went down:

Last week President Bush signed into law a bill S. 1858, known as The Newborn Screening Saves Lives Act of 2007 which will allow the federal government to begin to screen the DNA of all newborn babies in the U.S. within six months. This is a move by the government to initiate the establishment of a national DNA database. (Wasn't there an episode of X-File like this?) The justification for this law is that it represents preparation for any sort of "public health emergency." The bill states that the federal government should "continue to carry out, coordinate, and expand research in newborn screening" and "maintain a central clearinghouse of current information on newborn screening... ensuring that the clearinghouse is available on the Internet and is updated at least quarterly". Like we want that information on the Internet too right?


21 posted on 02/07/2010 8:34:00 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

I suspect this will weaken arguments against police collecting DNA from suspects.


22 posted on 02/07/2010 8:53:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Star Traveler

Leaving aside the “gov’t lab keeping my kids’ DNA” part, which I agree is not necessary and is probably illegal, I would like to weigh in on the medical usefulness of newborn screening. There are many metabolic disorders such as hypothyroidism which are easily treated, but treatment must start before sympotoms appear because symptoms are due to brain damage. For example, we used to call congenital hypothyroidism “cretinism” which should give you an idea of the effects. Another example is PKU — by the time the infant is showing any symptoms of the disorder is is too late — irreversible brain damage has already occurred. (PKU is the result of an inability to break down an amino acid (phenylalanine), which is found in the protein of common foods like milk, eggs, etc. Left untreated, PKU causes mental, motor, and growth retardation, microcephaly (very small brain), and seizures. With early detection and proper dietary treatment, growth and development should be normal.) There are many other metabolic disorders that may be similarly managed. With any medical test, there are two ways you can be wrong — a false negative (says you don’t have it when you do) and a false positive. With “screening” tests, because you don’t want to miss any cases, the test is set to have a high “false positive” rate and so you need to test again with a “diagnostic” test.


23 posted on 02/07/2010 8:56:17 AM PST by ConservativePsychProf ("I have set before you life and death. Choose life, that you and your descendants may live.")
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To: cripplecreek
You were saying ...

I suspect this will weaken arguments against police collecting DNA from suspects.

Yep..., the government, authorities and businesses are all "chomping at the bit" to gather all the information they can about everything and track people everywhere and know every last thing you do.

I was reading about the RFID chips and how some companies are saying that they are going to get to a point (with RFID chips, and the accompanying infrastructure that will go along with it) -- so that they will know exactly when you take off the top from your toothpaste, when you go to brush your teeth. And no... that wasn't a joke... it was said in all seriousness... (yeah... imagine that...).

24 posted on 02/07/2010 9:00:45 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: ConservativePsychProf

Talking about medical treatments and what doctors and/or hospitals or governments do with the information — it’s come to the day, now, that when you see the doctor coming towards you... you don’t know, any longer, whether he is coming to treat and help you — or — to kill you...

It starts with the unborn kids and the old people, and then they push in the boundaries of “killing you” — closer and closer towards the middle portion of the population... Unfortunately true, these days...


25 posted on 02/07/2010 9:04:18 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: cripplecreek; Boonie

It looks like it’s S. 1858 Newborn Screening Saves Lives Act of 2007


26 posted on 02/07/2010 9:12:16 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks for the link, information.


27 posted on 02/07/2010 9:34:39 AM PST by PGalt
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To: exDemMom
If you join the Armed Forces, your DNA will be kept on file. I’m not sure what happens to it once you leave the Armed Forces.

It's still maintained. Last summer, I found that every document in my active duty medical records had been "lost", except for the DNA.

28 posted on 02/07/2010 9:59:55 AM PST by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks for the info.


29 posted on 02/07/2010 10:57:29 AM PST by red tie
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To: lost in the snow
After reading all the comments, and the fears or perhaps even paranoia, I view things from a different perspective.

I came from a family who was secretive to the extreme, sharing absolutely nothing with the "younger" members of the family. They were all apparently terrified of making skeletons in the family known, is my suspicion.

Bottom line, I will never have a grasp of the medical histories of both branches of my family. Not even the government can help me and, after a certain age, the only way to learn of a predisposition to a disease is to come down with it.
In most instances that is too late for any positive preventive planning, testing and monitoring.

Make your choices and take your chances, I suppose.

Personally, I see this whole societal panic attack as the fear of knowing; the ostrich syndrome.
Coupled with the fear that medical insurance might never be available for preexisting conditions, or predisposition to certain serious diseases.

Insurance was "invented" at a time when statistical study was the only way to determine risk. Perhaps the time has come to redefine the entire concept of "insurance."

First order of business: which template will be chosen?
Will it be truly insurance?
Or Welfare by another creative name?

30 posted on 02/07/2010 11:34:23 AM PST by Publius6961 (He is not America; he is an employee seemingly unable to rise to minimal expectations.)
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To: lost in the snow
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama's War on Seniors

Socialized Med Thread

31 posted on 02/07/2010 11:43:53 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: ConservativePsychProf

Yes there is a usefulness to the screening but it should not be done behind the parents backs and the information locked up and kept indefinably.
The parents should make this decision, they are the ones who are suppose to be responsible for the child. Again it is the government usurping the parental authority and rights. As for keeping the information, to what end does the government need this. No good can come of it.


32 posted on 02/07/2010 12:54:10 PM PST by lost in the snow
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To: lost in the snow

If the testing is important, let doctors handle it. No need for govt to get involved. Just about sll babies are born in hospitals, which tend to have doctors in them. They would test even without govt doing it. Govt is NOT doing it to help people. BOTH FRIKKIN PARTIES know what they are up to. and it is NOT to ensure our liberty. Quite the opposite. THERE IS NO good REASON FOR THE GOVT TO DO THIS! None. If dos see someone not breathing, do they need the govt to tell them what to do? Does the govt need to tell docs how to care for babies? It’s all a crock. You are fooling yourselves thinking it is only Obama who is out to get you.


33 posted on 02/08/2010 6:29:02 AM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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