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Is State Department working on getting American Missionaries held in Haiti released? (vanity)
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Posted on 02/07/2010 4:22:32 PM PST by esqreb2

Has anyone heard any news of the State Department working to free the American Baptist Missionaries from prison in Haiti?

AOL reports that 8 of the Americans being held signed a note that was slipped out which states that they fear for their lives. This worries me greatly, given the history of Haiti.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: haiti; hostages; laurasilsby; missionaries; soshillary
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1 posted on 02/07/2010 4:22:32 PM PST by esqreb2
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To: esqreb2

Obama hates white people. Especially white Christian people. He’ll leave them to rot.


2 posted on 02/07/2010 4:23:43 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: All

ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.state.gov/


3 posted on 02/07/2010 4:26:24 PM PST by Cindy
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To: TheConservativeParty

They’re white Christians. The Kenyan doesn’t care.


4 posted on 02/07/2010 4:27:23 PM PST by unkus
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To: Cindy

Crickets chirping.....sad.


5 posted on 02/07/2010 4:29:09 PM PST by esqreb2 (Tried to contribute)
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To: unkus

Oh he cares, he’ll make sure they don’t have miranda rights, a fair trial, or a chance of the charges being dropped.


6 posted on 02/07/2010 4:35:24 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: esqreb2

Hillary seems to have thrown them to the Haitians


7 posted on 02/07/2010 4:36:01 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: driftdiver

Have they been water boarded yet?


8 posted on 02/07/2010 4:38:39 PM PST by Candor7 (((The effective weapons against Oba- Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA)))
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To: Candor7

I’d imagine that would be nice compared to what they are going thru.


9 posted on 02/07/2010 4:40:15 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: esqreb2

Don’t we have a bunch of marines there? So what’s the problem?


10 posted on 02/07/2010 4:42:52 PM PST by wastoute
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To: esqreb2
Officially the State Dept is just checking on welfare and say it's a matter for the Haitian judge and courts/

Unofficially, Bill Clinton in his new role to oversee all UN and international aid to Haiti, is said to be working to have all but their “leader” Silsby released.

Many articles indicate Silsby may have been up to no good - and that she knew she was outside the law by trying to round up kids with living parents and take them out of Haiti

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article7017950.ece

11 posted on 02/07/2010 4:45:40 PM PST by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: esqreb2

Let them go or pack up and leave that place!


12 posted on 02/07/2010 4:45:56 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: esqreb2

Leader:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35243272/ns/world_news-haiti_earthquake/


13 posted on 02/07/2010 4:47:29 PM PST by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: esqreb2

Katrina - rescue helicopters engaged with gunfire

Haiti - kid rescuers arrested and imprisoned

WHEN WILL OUR FOLKS LEARN...??


14 posted on 02/07/2010 4:48:07 PM PST by TokuMei
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To: TokuMei

I’m sure there is a request for money from Haiti.


15 posted on 02/07/2010 4:52:20 PM PST by Snapping Turtle
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To: driftdiver

16 posted on 02/07/2010 4:53:22 PM PST by Candor7 (((The effective weapons against Oba- Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA)))
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To: esqreb2

Yes, and No. Yes, the Department of State is seeking to have the “missionaries” released into the custody of the United States, but not to free them. The plan is to have them released and for the U.S. Department of Justice to try each of them as human traffickers.


17 posted on 02/07/2010 4:55:25 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Is anyone in the 0bama administration competent at anything?!!?)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

If what they were doing was God’s will, isn’t what is happening to them now God’s will as well?


18 posted on 02/07/2010 4:58:18 PM PST by Voice Of Doh
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Thought you might want to lend a hand on this thread.


19 posted on 02/07/2010 4:59:38 PM PST by VicVega (Saints are marching to Miami to win the Super Bowl.)
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To: esqreb2

Who is the Haiti Czar...??


20 posted on 02/07/2010 5:01:43 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: esqreb2

Are you talking about the folks arrested for trying to take a group of children across the border into the Dominican Republic? If so, my understanding is that nine of the ten are claiming to basically be the stooges of the ringleader. She lead them to believe (falsely) that the paperwork was in order for the 33 children. Lord only knows what else she was covering up.


21 posted on 02/07/2010 5:06:38 PM PST by Burkean (.)
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To: esqreb2
Has anyone heard any news of the State Department working to free the American Baptist Missionaries from prison in Haiti?

Are you referring to the group that was trying to smuggle kids out of the country?

The ones that were too "pure of cause" to need documentation?

Bet they wish they were less pure now.

22 posted on 02/07/2010 5:11:44 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: esqreb2

You have to ask? No one from the US embassy was there for them throughout the whole process and beats me if Hillary was even asked about it.


23 posted on 02/07/2010 5:12:37 PM PST by AliVeritas (Stolen from the best site ever: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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To: esqreb2

Barf Alert clinton brokers deal

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article7017950.ece


24 posted on 02/07/2010 5:22:44 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Voice Of Doh

Yes, Voice of Doh, the Big Guy has control over it all, in good times and bad. It rains on the just and the unjust.


25 posted on 02/07/2010 5:24:46 PM PST by healy61
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To: nuconvert

Just as theres no reporting on the Notre Dame 88 either.


26 posted on 02/07/2010 5:35:58 PM PST by AliVeritas (Stolen from the best site ever: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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To: FromLori

Good for Bill—at least he knows what will fly politically. Besides, this Silsby gal may be cooperative.


27 posted on 02/07/2010 6:00:11 PM PST by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: humblegunner

Part of the tag team, are you?

What do you have against these people? How much is Bambi paying you for this? Or are you doing it out of love of The Wun?

There is absolutely no indication that these Baptists were anything other than naive. Even the woman who led the group, who has acknowlegedly had a lot of failed business ventures (and what entrepeneur hasn’t?), has a long track record with Haiti - her father was a missionary who spent years doing dental work for free on Haitian kids and adults, and she has always had a connection with Haiti and it was logical for her to want to help.

Maybe what they trusted in too much, in fact, was the US government and the US people. Maybe they didn’t realize that Obama’s forces were going to be able to infiltrate FR and attack them here.


28 posted on 02/07/2010 6:16:32 PM PST by livius
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To: esqreb2

I think they have a plan to give Haiti $500 billion to release them. That’s each.


29 posted on 02/07/2010 6:19:03 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: livius

Thank you for that clarification.

Prayers for these (endangered) Christians continued.

Zero and Bubba are the tag team evidently - working to see that they never see the light of day again..,.,


30 posted on 02/07/2010 6:27:12 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

The Wall Street Journal had a very good little article on them yesterday. They were certainly not up to anything criminal, and even the woman in charge, who has been demonized by the US press and certain posters here, appears to have been well meaning if inept, and certainly not criminal.

The shocking thing is that the US has not even sent a representative to their hearings, has not been in touch with them in any way, and obviously is offering them up to the voodoo gods of PC to distract from the pro-Obama Haitian government’s miserable handling of foreign aid in this disaster.


31 posted on 02/07/2010 6:38:49 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

Am sure it has happened - but are ANY in our Congress going out front demanding the Obommunists set these Christians free????


32 posted on 02/07/2010 6:45:34 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: livius
concerning humblegunner
It is not just the liberals that hate Christians.
33 posted on 02/07/2010 6:48:18 PM PST by americanmother (2nd Tim chapter 3)
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To: esqreb2

I have been worried sick about these poor white missionaries, especially the women.


34 posted on 02/07/2010 6:53:41 PM PST by GinaLolaB
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To: livius

NO Americans should be held in Haitian prisons (hellholes) for something like this. And without representation from US attending hearings on their behalf, I am outraged! What can we do to bring this to attention of fellow Americans? Any suggestions on who to contact to get something going? I will call my congressman David Drier tomorrow, not sure if he can do anything, but it’s a start.


35 posted on 02/07/2010 7:21:19 PM PST by esqreb2 (Tried to contribute)
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To: esqreb2

The more I read about this one, the more guilty the ringleader sounds. The others may be innocent victims. There is no doubt that the acts were illegal. And it looks like the leader, at least, knew that.


36 posted on 02/07/2010 7:25:01 PM PST by PAR35
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To: esqreb2
Are they black and/or Muslim?

There's your answer.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

37 posted on 02/07/2010 7:39:18 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: americanmother

There’s nothing conservative about hating Christians. Surely you’ve been here long enough to notice that the moles who hate Christians rarely post anything which conservatives could agree with.


38 posted on 02/07/2010 7:59:56 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: livius

You *really* should read up on Silsby before you defend her. In recent news, it turns out she also tried to abduct three children who were already in the legal adoption process, calling the adoptive parents at their home in the US and offering to take the children to the DR. She was told emphatically NO three times by the adoptive mother — the adoptive father was already down in Haiti picking up the children. But Silsby nevertheless showed up at the orphanage where the children had been staying, and announced she’d been sent by the adoptive mother to pick up the children. Fortunately, the adoptive father had already picked them up. She was planning to extort money from these parents while holding their legally adopted children hostage in her phony orphanage in the DR.

This woman is a career con artist. It doesn’t appear that any of the others except her sidekick Coulter had any evil intent, but Silsby and Coulter sure did (though they sure didn’t do ANY checking on Silsby’s background before running off on this crazy “mission” with her). That’s why the other EIGHT who are stuck in jail with her slipped a note to an NBC News producer yesterday, saying Silsby had lied to them and was trying to control the situation. They said they’re afraid for their lives. The people who trusted her and went down there with and are stuck in jail with are attacking her, but you’re defending her. That’s just weird.


39 posted on 02/07/2010 11:06:32 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: esqreb2

US consular officials are never permitted to represent US citizens in foreign legal proceedings. You can howl at your congressman all you like but that isn’t going to change. This will be handled behind the scenes by people who know what they’re doing. In all likelihood, 8 or 9 of them will be released, and Silsby, and maybe Coulter as well, will stay behind to get what she/they richly deserve from the Haitian legal system.

Silsby is a career con artist. You really should do your research before wasting the time of your congressman’s staff. The whole country is well aware of this case, so there’s really no need for you to do anything to “bring this to attention of fellow Americans”. Fox News, CNN, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, the Idaho Statesman, and KTVB (Idaho), among others, have got this thoroughly covered.


40 posted on 02/07/2010 11:13:01 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: VicVega

Thanks for the ping.


41 posted on 02/07/2010 11:13:29 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Sicvee
Good for Bill—at least he knows what will fly politically. Besides, this Silsby gal may be cooperative.

Indeed. Nothing could be more appropriate than to have Bill Clinton in charge of Laura Silsby's fate. She'd be down on her knees sucking in a second if she got the chance. But too bad for her, she's a pudgy, unattractive middle-aged loser who's now known to the whole world as a con artist, and Bill can still get prettier younger hussies to service him. And it's not clear that anyone in the US really wants her back. Plenty of her creditors and former employees want their money, but since she doesn't have any and isn't going to have any, they've got no use for her.

Even the situation with her two minor children is shaky. A judge forced her to turn over her children's passports in December, after her husband got wind that she was telling people she was going to be "leaving the country". She had also taken her children to the Dominican Republic in July, apparently on her first trip there with Coulter re trying to set up the "orphanage", and her ex-husband took issue with that. http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/1071122.html Sounds like the judge believed she might be trying to abscond with the children in violation of whatever the custody order was. If her ex-husband didn't already have primary custody, I'm sure he will going forward. And what do you tell kids when their mother has just been exposed to the whole world as a con artist who tried to exploit poor Haitian children for her own gain, and succeeded in exploiting gullible but well-intentioned church folks for her own gain for quite a few months? Really, at this point her kids are better off without her.

The funny thing is that the Haitian judges, who are accustomed to making their living by extorting bribes in exchange for lenient or nonexistent sentences, have got themselves a genuinely guilty-as-sin US citizen, and one who is now very high profile to boot, but despite her having these key features of a major cash cow, they're not likely to get squat for her, because nobody wants her. And the US *will* intervene, quietly but firmly, behind the scenes, if the Haitians attempt to extort money for the freedom of the innocent ones. Tough times for Haitian judges -- their homes are probably rubble, and now their jail is cluttered up with prisoners they can't get any cash for.

42 posted on 02/07/2010 11:39:55 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: livius
What do you have against these people?

What is about kid smugglers you find so endearing?

How much is Bambi paying you for this?

One million dollars.

Or are you doing it out of love of The Wun?

More like lack of love for busybody "missionaries" and kid smugglers.

Maybe they didn’t realize that Obama’s forces were going to be able to infiltrate FR and attack them here.

Oh, no doubt. Folks worldwide live and die as a result of stuff posted here.
As a result of your snarkiness, today the smugglers will not be fed.
Another word from you, and I'll have them thrown into the feral dog pit.

Get a friggin' grip.

43 posted on 02/08/2010 6:04:00 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: GinaLolaB

I doubt there’s much need for worry. If they weren’t so high profile, there certainly would be, especially for the women, and most especially for that pretty 18 year old girl. But the US government is all over this, with Bill and Hillary Clinton, as well as the Haitian prime minister, all making public statements to the media about it. I expect the jail guards have had it made clear to them that they’ll wish they’d never been born if one of these prisoners gets raped, or otherwise seriously harmed.


44 posted on 02/08/2010 10:14:28 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: humblegunner

LOL! These people are exasperating, aren’t they? It’s clear they simply haven’t read most of the damning information that’s been all over the media, but apparently they’ll rush to defend anyone who fits the profile of white self-described Christian. If this crew had been Muslims and done exactly the same thing, the people who are still defending Silsby would be calling for the whole group to be executed, innocent dupes included.


45 posted on 02/08/2010 10:17:33 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I'd hit it . . . in Haiti.


46 posted on 02/08/2010 1:20:04 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: BykrBayb

Guess I still expect the best out of the people here.


47 posted on 02/08/2010 7:54:20 PM PST by americanmother (2nd Tim chapter 3)
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To: americanmother

Well surprise. There are a handful of trolls here who think Christianity is a disease.


48 posted on 02/08/2010 7:58:44 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

It may come a time soon they will beg for that disease.


49 posted on 02/08/2010 8:17:59 PM PST by americanmother (2nd Tim chapter 3)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
APPARENTLY THIS WAS A SECOND RUN
50 posted on 02/08/2010 9:01:28 PM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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