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303 Diagnosed With Mumps In NYC Suburbs
CBS ^ | Feb 6, 2010 | NA

Posted on 02/07/2010 8:29:02 PM PST by neverdem

United States' Largest Outbreak In Years Ransacks Hasidic Jewish Communities In Rockland County

NEW YORK (CBS) ― More than 300 people have been diagnosed with the mumps in suburban New York as the nation's largest outbreak of the disease in years continues to spread.

A health official says a total of 303 people in the Rockland County towns of Monsey and New Square have been diagnosed with the highly infectious disease. Almost all the cases are among Orthodox or Hasidic Jews.

Investigators say the outbreak started in August 2009 at a Jewish summer camp in Sullivan County with an 11-year-old boy who brought the disease from England.

It has since spread to Jewish communities in Brooklyn, New Jersey and Orange county.

Mumps spreads through saliva, coughing and sneezing. Common symptoms are flu-like and include swelling of the salivary glands.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: health; medicine; mumps; nyc; outbreak; publichealth
Do these folks eschew vaccines on religious grounds?
1 posted on 02/07/2010 8:29:02 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Because they fear autism (wrongly) maybe?


2 posted on 02/07/2010 8:33:14 PM PST by Feline_AIDS (Boop boop hoop yeah!)
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To: Feline_AIDS

Hopefully not a mutated strain.


3 posted on 02/07/2010 8:37:22 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: neverdem
To remedy a salivary gland stone suck a lemon.

4 posted on 02/07/2010 8:37:56 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: neverdem

Doesn’t getting mumps in older life increase chances of sterility...like big time?


5 posted on 02/07/2010 8:44:35 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Promoted by God to be a mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................Thanks, Susan!)
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To: neverdem

“Do these folks eschew vaccines on religious grounds?”

No


6 posted on 02/07/2010 9:05:00 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Yes, I know some people who had one daughter and then the dad got mumps and became sterile.

I also know a 30 yr old who just had chicken pox and it almost killed him. He was sick for over 2 months.

Most of the childhood diseases are harder on adults than on children.


7 posted on 02/07/2010 9:06:35 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: metmom; DvdMom

Want to run the ping list on this one?


8 posted on 02/07/2010 9:09:21 PM PST by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: tiki

It bothers me when I read about parents having chickenpox parties for their kids or people who were against the H1N1 vaccine or Gov Perry’s call for the HPV vaccine.


9 posted on 02/07/2010 9:13:01 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: ari-freedom

Dangerous and criminal stupidity.


10 posted on 02/07/2010 9:17:00 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Feline_AIDS

“Because they fear autism (wrongly) maybe?”

Many have thanks to the Wakefield hoax.


11 posted on 02/07/2010 9:19:09 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: darkangel82

It really bothers me because many in the anti-vaccine movement are conservatives and when the govt tries to force vaccination, it just reinforces their view that it is worth opposing.


12 posted on 02/07/2010 9:24:29 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: ari-freedom

Why?


13 posted on 02/07/2010 9:26:40 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ari-freedom; darkangel82; MamaTexan; Paleo Conservative; ConservaTexan; Politicalmom; CindyDawg; ...
It really bothers me because many in the anti-vaccine movement are conservatives and when the govt tries to force vaccination, it just reinforces their view that it is worth opposing.

You do realize, don't you, that there is a big difference between opposing vaccines and opposing FORCED vaccines?

While I think that some vaccines are necessary and do save lives, I absolutely oppose the government MANDATING them, all for my own good , of course.

And for opposing the mandatory part, I've been labeled as *anti-vaccine*. Many aren't anti-vaccine as much as anti-mandatory.

Some people are clueless.......

14 posted on 02/07/2010 9:31:00 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ari-freedom

“It bothers me when I read about parents having chickenpox parties for their kids or people who were against the H1N1 vaccine or Gov Perry’s call for the HPV vaccine.

It really bothers me because many in the anti-vaccine movement are conservatives and when the govt tries to force vaccination, it just reinforces their view that it is worth opposing.”

These are personal decisions, simple as that.


15 posted on 02/07/2010 9:31:50 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: ari-freedom

I have a friend here who was one of those militant anti-swine flu vaccine guys. He wouldn’t let his girlfriend get one. Turns out she was high risk with diabetes, she got swine flu and she’s been hospitalized for two months so far. He feels so guilty now. She almost died, but thank God it looks like she’s going to pull through.


16 posted on 02/07/2010 9:33:02 PM PST by Hildy
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To: neverdem

Interesting. From a google search....

http://www.jewishjournal.com/health/article/mumps_outbreak_strikes_orthodox_jews_in_ny_20100207/

“Many of those affected were vaccinated against the mumps.”

And this link....

http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/30987392/ShowThread.aspx


17 posted on 02/07/2010 9:38:50 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

That’s what I’ve heard....


18 posted on 02/07/2010 9:39:26 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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19 posted on 02/07/2010 9:48:12 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: tiki

My sister and I had mumps and chicken pox and measles as children. There were no vaccines available back then.


20 posted on 02/07/2010 10:14:57 PM PST by donna (Sarah PAC has donated money to...(wait for it)...Lindsey Graham!)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 02/07/2010 10:22:56 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ari-freedom

I was against Perry’s call for the HPV vaccine. There is absolutely no reason a non-sexually active 12 year old needs the vaccine.

I have 13 year old twins, and even our pediatrician agrees that we can wait a while before we decide about that vaccine.

I’m not anti-vaccine. I made sure my daughters had the H1N1 vaccine and they get their seasonal flu vaccines because they are at risk for complications from the flu due to asthma and epilepsy.

However, I am always careful to read about side-effects of vaccines, especially neurological side-effects.


22 posted on 02/07/2010 10:49:07 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: MadelineZapeezda; neverdem
Doesn’t getting mumps in older life increase chances of sterility...like big time?

My father's brother, who was 14 years older than my father, was infertile due to mumps he contracted at age 19. My father got the mumps from his brother, so he was just 4 when he got them.

23 posted on 02/07/2010 11:08:30 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: ari-freedom
Oh! Same here. My sibling had the chickenpox 3times before he became fully immune to the disease. He was a jr in high school the last time he had them and he was sick as a dog.

I don't "play" around with any illnesses...even the ones many think are just a rite of passage.

24 posted on 02/07/2010 11:49:17 PM PST by TNdandelion (While Obama plays with his balls, Afghanistan falls.)
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To: luckystarmom

I would also be against any mandatory vaccine program, however, even non-sexully active teens are at risk of exposure through non-consensul sexual contact. As much as I would love to keep my daughters within arms reach at all times, sadly, they do have to attend school, church and other functions. I might even let them date before I die. Sadly, girls and women are one of the biggest risk groups for rape, date rape and sexual assault and that can happen anywhere. :(


25 posted on 02/07/2010 11:57:22 PM PST by TNdandelion (While Obama plays with his balls, Afghanistan falls.)
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To: neverdem

Bill Clinton feels their pain...


26 posted on 02/08/2010 4:08:54 AM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: ari-freedom

I would not call Scientologists, nor many of the others I know who do not vaccinate their children, conservatives! Maybe you read about a few who are, but as a school nurse, most of the people who refuse vaccinationa are NOT conservatives. They vote for ‘parties’ most of us would avoid.


27 posted on 02/08/2010 4:46:31 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: donna

I almost died of the measles and the chicken pox was miserable. I never had the mumps even though I was exposed as an adult so I could actually still get them.


28 posted on 02/08/2010 8:18:29 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: DvdMom; Uncle Ike; Smokin' Joe; Yehuda; Nachum

*ping*


29 posted on 02/08/2010 8:20:21 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

We are all concerned. The kids got the vaccines, but it still gives you pause.


30 posted on 02/08/2010 8:24:54 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
I wonder if the mumps brought back from England represent some type of mutation -- OR, if perhaps the vaccine the children received was inactive, or in some way simply no good.

How horrifying for the community.....

Do you happen to know if the kids are fully recovering, with no ill aftereffects?

31 posted on 02/08/2010 8:35:47 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

I have not heard of any complications, so it does not seem like a mutation. Vaccines shots can be missed, or perhaps don’t work for everyone. I got the measles when I was 18. The vaccine wore off. Not fun.


32 posted on 02/08/2010 9:06:57 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

My vaccination wore off too, and I had a very mild case around age 25.


33 posted on 02/08/2010 9:16:04 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Nachum
I have not heard of any complications, so it does not seem like a mutation. Vaccines shots can be missed, or perhaps don’t work for everyone. I got the measles when I was 18. The vaccine wore off. Not fun.

I know someone who got mumps here in the United States as a child and then got them again in Brazil at about the same time I and a missionary couple got them. We think we were exposed at the Pan American Christian Academy Fourth of July celebration. That's the only time we were all together.
34 posted on 02/08/2010 9:16:37 AM PST by aruanan
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To: hennie pennie

I heard that it is harder to contract the mumps at older ages. Not sure if it is true.


35 posted on 02/08/2010 9:23:37 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Hildy

The Vaccine might not have worked against the strain she contracted. He shouldn’t beat himself up too bad.


36 posted on 02/08/2010 9:24:53 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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37 posted on 02/08/2010 9:30:55 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: donna

Me too, Donna, and I had both forms of measles back then. In fact, I came down with the regular measles right after getting over the mumps.

Most children recovered nicely from these childhood diseases.


38 posted on 02/08/2010 9:43:38 AM PST by jacquej
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To: neverdem; JoeProBono; martin_fierro; Perdogg

Didn’t the Mumps invade Spain in the 8th century?


39 posted on 02/08/2010 10:55:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: neverdem
A health official says a total of 303 people in the Rockland County towns of Monsey and New Square have been diagnosed with the highly infectious disease. Almost all the cases are among Orthodox or Hasidic Jews. Inbred, er, insular religious communities who are conquering Rockland County (not that there's anything wrong with it, as long as they keep their theocracy within the Eruv). These folks are often opposed to vaccination, so it doesn't surprise me that they have this problem.
40 posted on 02/08/2010 11:01:15 AM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: metmom

“You do realize, don’t you, that there is a big difference between opposing vaccines and opposing FORCED vaccines?”

Of course. But many people are refusing vaccines for their kids *because* it is forced. Nobody likes the mandatory part but that doesn’t mean kids should get sick.


41 posted on 02/08/2010 12:50:28 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: Shery

I’m not talking about scientologists. The anti-vaccine movement is very large.


42 posted on 02/08/2010 12:53:50 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: Clemenza

OK you can put down that copy of Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
They aren’t opposed to vaccination and it was actually the Hasidim who employed the use of genetic testing to ensure that Tay Sachs disease is no longer a problem among Ashkenazic Jews.


43 posted on 02/08/2010 1:02:36 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: ari-freedom
OK you can put down that copy of Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

HAHA! Sorry, I don't read Russian Fairy Tales, especially one so poorly and turgidly written. I read a selection in a history class and could barely get through the three pages of laughably silly propaganda. BTW: You should know already that the biggest opponents of the Haredi "conquest" of Rockland have been secular Jews in New City.

They aren’t opposed to vaccination and it was actually the Hasidim who employed the use of genetic testing to ensure that Tay Sachs disease is no longer a problem among Ashkenazic Jews.

I know that the Lubavitchers are not opposed to vaccination. I have always heard, however, that the Skverers up in New Square were highly suspicious of vaccinations.

44 posted on 02/09/2010 8:46:48 AM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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