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Palin stumps for 'good friend' Perry in Cypress
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | Feb. 7, 2010 | MICHAEL GRACZYK

Posted on 02/07/2010 9:31:35 PM PST by FTJM

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To: FTJM

You’re milking this to the point of absurdity, friend.

If Sarah takes a firm position that I disagree with, I’ll be the first to admit it, but what she stated about a “pathway to citizenship” on the campaign trail as John McCain’s running mate isn’t a statement that I’m willing to hold her to.

Every VP candidate has to bite their tongue and verbally support the Presidential candidate’s positions to the best of their ability without totally compromising their own integrity. That’s got to be a tough assignment, and I think that Sarah handled it as well as could be expected, under the circumstances.

The fact is, this woman is a person of extreme patriotism, who has a love of country that is rare in this day and age. She believes firmly in the Constitution, and in our American traditions. She believes in America with all her heart.

There is no way under the sun, moon, or stars that she would ever betray her sacred allegiance to America, or to the American people.

Back away from the minutiae of your argument for a moment, and take a good hard look at everything Sarah Palin believes in, and stands for. Take a long hard look at the breadth and depth of her entire view of this country, its history, its traditions, and its people.

Take in the whole view, and put your questions and concerns about what she’s said on the campaign trail into perspective, alongside that view of her.

Just honestly do that for a few moments, and I think you may feel better about her.


101 posted on 02/08/2010 12:43:30 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: lmarie373

Palin has stated pretty clearly she is for LEGAL immigration...and that the issue is ILLEGAL immigration.

The problem is there has been a tremendous number of illegal immigrants flooding in...and what to do about them. Some believe they all should be returned to their country, I’m for that as well, but with this our immigration laws need some adjustments..it shouldn’t take years and years to become a citizen...and it shouldn’t be easy access either.

I realize there are some illegals here who benefit our country and work hard...all the arguements of why they should have “Ammnesty”...but I can’t agree with how the current gov. wants this to go. People should return to their country and come in then with a new/reformed and better way of becoming a citizen established by our gov. That’s how I see it.

Those who have come here illegally knew so when they did and the risk of having to return if found out. Though I understand the worlds people wanting to come here it needs to be done the right way..according to our laws just as it is in all other countries. I’m also for closing the borders until this mess is straightened out.

I think it’s alot to ask any politician how they stand on this issue more than what Palin has stated..there are too many complicated issues if you give a pat answer without an acctual plan that’s workable. There isn’t one now. There’s much yet to be discussed.


102 posted on 02/08/2010 12:53:11 AM PST by caww
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To: Windflier
Not milking anything. I stated a fact that you clearly aren't willing to accept. She had no problem disagreeing with McCain on ANWR so she would have had no problem disagreeing with him on a path to citizenship. Nice try though.

From your comments, you have no issue with a politician compromising their integrity for political expediency and therefore, you are in no position to recommend a candidate to me or anyone else for that matter. You also appear desperate to excuse her positions with nuance, word games and deflection while blindly worshiping her, no thanks.

Treat her no differently than you would any other GOP candidate and leave the Messiah complex to the Left.

103 posted on 02/08/2010 12:58:55 AM PST by FTJM
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To: roylll

Her business employed three people...now how would one expect she could handle Governing a state?


104 posted on 02/08/2010 12:59:09 AM PST by caww
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To: FTJM

You read the exact same statements that I did. Sarah plainly states that she does not favor illegal immigration, yet you persist in trying to insinuate that she’s saying something sinister.

You want to parse out of her statements something that she does not believe in, and has not advocated.

She agrees with our current immigration laws, which in essence are a “pathway to citizenship”. She does not support giving amnesty to illegals in this country, nor does she support illegal aliens “jumping the line”.

Cling to your dark fantasy if you must. It’s your problem, and you’re welcome to it.


105 posted on 02/08/2010 1:02:05 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: caww

Legal immigration is also a big problem. You can’t have all these people coming for all the govt goodies.

Europe really has a major problem right now because the muslims are taking over, taking full advantage of the welfare state and crime has gone up dramatically.


106 posted on 02/08/2010 1:06:33 AM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: Windflier
I AM NOT INSINUATING ANYTHING. She is for a path to citizenship for illegal aliens who are illegally here in this country. No parsing, no nuance.

I wholeheartedly disagree with her position. And your attempts to spin and a massage it aren't working. I'll pass on the blind worship of a candidate, we've seen what that can do. I suggest you do the same.

107 posted on 02/08/2010 1:07:20 AM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

...”path to citizenship”...we already have this and many have gone thru this process. Palin is for Legal immigrants, so are most Americans. But not blanket Ammnesty..and that’s what people want her to address. Impossible since there isn’t yet Ammnesty, alot to address and determine a whole lot before anyone can really stand against or for that one way or another... and so there it is.


108 posted on 02/08/2010 1:09:20 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

That made no sense. Conservatives don’t support a path to citizenship for illegal aliens, or amnesty, which a path to citizenship is.


109 posted on 02/08/2010 1:12:57 AM PST by FTJM
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To: ari-freedom

Our laws must be changed on immigration...and I agree we need to be far more particular who we let in...I’m for tightening who we let in. Right now our prisons are chocked full of undesirables legal and illegal.

Just like all other countries I think we need to qualify who can and cannot come in...just because a person wants to come here is not a reason to let them.

Just so you know I am not for the laws we have now..or and especially that they are not enforced. The system is broken.


110 posted on 02/08/2010 1:15:22 AM PST by caww
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To: SoCalPol

“Rand does not hold the same views re GITMO and other areas as Ron.”

he’s still closer to Ron than traditional conservatives. And Ron’s biggest problem isn’t his ACU rating on a checklist of conservative issues. It’s the fact that he’s...well...a nutcase.


111 posted on 02/08/2010 1:21:29 AM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: FTJM

But that is my point...illegals want ..quote.” A Path to Citizenship”...WE do have this and have for many years. Just because people change the terminology around calling it Amnesty for Illegals does not change the fact we have laws in place now that allow people to come here legally.

So the problem is really we have illegal people here who want a fast track to citizenship and I say no. Return home and come back as all other who went thru the process we now have in place.


112 posted on 02/08/2010 1:22:03 AM PST by caww
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To: FTJM

But that is my point...illegals want ..quote.” A Path to Citizenship”...WE do have this and have for many years. Just because people change the terminology around calling it Amnesty for Illegals does not change the fact we have laws in place now that allow people to come here legally.

So the problem is really we have illegal people here who want a fast track to citizenship and I say no. Return home and come back as all other who went thru the process we now have in place.


113 posted on 02/08/2010 1:22:26 AM PST by caww
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To: FTJM
I AM NOT INSINUATING ANYTHING.

Yes, you are. And now you're screaming it.

Have it your way, bud. Think what ya like. Believe what ya like.

It may be completely bogus, and a total figment of your imagination, but hey, at least it's all yours. No one can ever take that away from you, ok?

You just keep on being right, bucko.

Good night.

114 posted on 02/08/2010 1:23:58 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

You’re clueless buddy. And don’t be surprised when your Messiah fails you.


115 posted on 02/08/2010 1:25:50 AM PST by FTJM
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To: caww

I’m all for opening up the H-1b visas. We need more of the best and the brightest but not the people who can only make a few bucks and depend on the govt for everything else.


116 posted on 02/08/2010 1:27:13 AM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: FTJM
And don’t be surprised when your Messiah fails you.

B-b-but, you're my messiah! Oh noes!!!!!!

117 posted on 02/08/2010 1:37:30 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ari-freedom

These visas and other delicate issues have yet to be fully determined enough for me to support in the face of the Amnesty which is being promoted. Yes, we want good people here..but even they must be working toward becoming a citizen according to the laws currently, not just come here to work and that’s that. They must learn the language and assimulate into our culture just as we are expected to do in others.


118 posted on 02/08/2010 1:40:29 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

“now how would one expect she could handle Governing a state?”

Much better than a carrier politician, it has been my experience that carrier politicians could not hit water if they fell out of a boat

Past behaviour = Best indication of future results

If you want to relect the tyranny that our carrier politicians have given us....good luck with that


119 posted on 02/08/2010 2:24:00 AM PST by roylll
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To: roylll

it’s easier to sound good when all you have are speeches and no record.


120 posted on 02/08/2010 2:39:18 AM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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