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Palin stumps for 'good friend' Perry in Cypress
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | Feb. 7, 2010 | MICHAEL GRACZYK

Posted on 02/07/2010 9:31:35 PM PST by FTJM

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To: onyx

http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=1716304&pagenum=2

speaks for itself:
To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.


51 posted on 02/07/2010 10:46:08 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: lmarie373
een if she is not campaigning she has to take a stand on issues.

At this point, she really doesn't; she's a private citizen. If she should toss her hat into the ring, I'm sure many of us will want to know how she stands on a lot of issues. What I have seen so far is a conservative with a common sense approach.

There are a few I'm watching with some interest at this stage such as Jim DeMint, Mike Pence, Michelle Bachman and Duncan Hunter. I have no idea whether any of them will run, either, but I hope they'll consider it.

I don't believe in blindly supporting or taking a worshipful stance on any politician and I won't expect whomever I support to match my own ideology 100%. That's just unrealistic.

But at this point, the field is open and I'm just observing.

52 posted on 02/07/2010 10:49:27 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: patriot08

I agree with all you said!

Over the past few weeks, I’ve also tried to point out that Medina, a nurse, has no executive or business experience to bring to the table and that it’s the Ron Paul crowd that is supporting her in this campaign.


53 posted on 02/07/2010 10:50:30 PM PST by octex
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To: RobbyS

“We don’t know much about Medina.” Texas is too big a state and too important to screw around with an unknown.
She needs to play small ball first - mayor, city council or position of leadership in one of the larger cities irst - let’s see her voting records and how she handles political life. Then if she proves to be what she says she is, she can run for governor in four years. In the meantime, for heaven’s sakes, vote for Perry. There are also lots of good conservative Texas House members who are fighting for their lives this year - they need our support.


54 posted on 02/07/2010 10:51:41 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: octex
Over the past few weeks, I’ve also tried to point out that Medina, a nurse, has no executive or business experience to bring to the table and that it’s the Ron Paul crowd that is supporting her in this campaign.

BINGO!

Perry gets my vote.

55 posted on 02/07/2010 10:51:46 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: lmarie373
My problem with her is that she is is very vague on immigration,gay issues,international ..etc

I believe that what you perceive as "vague", is simply Sarah's broad statements about her basic philosophy of life and government. If you're a conservative and a patriot, I think you probably agree with her on those things.

Sarah has yet to make any detailed statements about her precise positions on many issues. In her position, she doesn't need to. She's not an elected representative, and when she was John McCain's running mate, it was her job to support his positions on the issues.

Having said that, Sarah's made some of her positions on issues known over the last year, via her FaceBook page, and several articles she's written.

Surely you've read these. If you have, then she's already answered some of your questions regarding her positions on important national (and international) issues.

Maybe you're waiting for Sarah to speak directly to you. Maybe you need her to address your chief concerns, and to answer your questions about issues that concern you in a detailed and studious manner.

Not to worry. In time, she'll answer all of those questions for you. For now, and until she runs for office again, she simply needs to state her broad, fundamental philosophy, and support conservative candidates for office (who DO have to state their detailed positions on the issues).

Most conservatives can extrapolate from Sarah's fundamental stance on things, where she'll fall on individual issues.

she flip flops on the issues like Mccain.

Sorry, but I haven't seen that from Sarah at all. I've been watching her since she stepped onto the national stage, and I've seen nothing but consistency of message from her.

I have no idea what makes you think I am a follower of obama. I have NEVER supported him,just becasue I disagree with her that automatically makes me a liberal?

That's the problem, right there. You disagree with someone who states conservative principles better than anyone we've seen in a generation, and who has a track record of conservative accomplishment in office. Not knowing you, I can only logically surmise that you must agree with her exact opposite, which is Obama.

So, tell me. Do you agree with anything Sarah Palin has said or done?

56 posted on 02/07/2010 10:52:46 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: lmarie373

If you take a aspirin you might save your little weewee brain from exploding but I bet not~~~PALIN/BROWN 2012 you betcha!!!


57 posted on 02/07/2010 10:53:03 PM PST by FreeperFlirt
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To: ari-freedom; SoCalPol

I said, not tonight. I knew you’d post the univision link.
No sale.

Sarah Palin is not John McCain and she is not for amnesty. She is against illegal immigration. She is not his running mate. She does not hold elected office.

What are you afraid of and what is your agenda?


58 posted on 02/07/2010 10:55:49 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: ari-freedom; lmarie373

Palin: we need to close the borders.

They are called illegal aliens for a reason and if they are not going to follow the rules they should not be in our country. It’s pretty simple I ratched that one down to the simple answer because its an easier answer than some politicians want it to make it be.

you close the borders. You get more agressive about cracking down on the illegal aliens and we take it serious what our border patrol officers are trying to do


December 2009

Lars Larson radio talk show

LARS: The amnesty proposal that was defeated in Congress — in your view, was that amnesty for illegals and would you back amnesty for a path to citizenship, as the current president calls it?

SARAH PALIN: No, I’m not for amnesty. Let’s ratchet this down quite simply to remember what we’re referring to. Illegal aliens are called “illegal” for a reason.

We need to secure our borders and I am not for amnesty. And there are humane ways to deal with the 11-13 million illegal aliens who are in our country right now, but if they’re not going to follow the rules, they need to get out.


59 posted on 02/07/2010 10:59:55 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: onyx

I’m afraid of a Permanent Democrat Majority due to a road to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. Once that happens, none of the tea parties and facebook groups will make a difference.


60 posted on 02/07/2010 11:03:12 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: Windflier
Sarah has yet to make any detailed statements about her precise positions on many issues

She supports a path to citizenship.

61 posted on 02/07/2010 11:06:16 PM PST by FTJM
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To: ari-freedom; SoCalPol

Then Sarah Palin is not the enemy.
Fortunately, SoCalPol is still here, because she keeps the information handy and I’m tired of the replaying this same argument.


62 posted on 02/07/2010 11:07:53 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: FTJM

She does not.


63 posted on 02/07/2010 11:08:52 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: onyx
She does not.

She does, and said so.

64 posted on 02/07/2010 11:10:36 PM PST by FTJM
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To: Windflier

SARAH ROCKS!


65 posted on 02/07/2010 11:12:58 PM PST by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: SoCalPol

How about electing Tancredo for a month?
Bring out the cattle cars to deport them all.

Might be easier to enforce the law and follow our Constitution. Stop employing illegal aliens and secure the damn borders. Isn’t that about what Sarah said?


66 posted on 02/07/2010 11:13:43 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: FTJM
BUY A CLUE
67 posted on 02/07/2010 11:16:03 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: SoCalPol

so how do you reconcile what she said in the link I gave?


68 posted on 02/07/2010 11:16:38 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: FTJM

” She does, and said so.”

but apparently she also said she did not and said so. :/


69 posted on 02/07/2010 11:17:36 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: SoCalPol; ari-freedom; FTJM

I have to leave it to you all for tonight, but there’ll be others and maybe she’ll have more to say.
Nite, everybody!


70 posted on 02/07/2010 11:21:27 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: onyx

That doesn’t dispute her comments where she specifically said she was in favor of a path to citizenship. Put your head out or get up off your knees, whichever is applicable.


71 posted on 02/07/2010 11:21:29 PM PST by FTJM
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To: ari-freedom
but apparently she also said she did not and said so. :/

Where exactly did she say so? So she flipped flopped then?

72 posted on 02/07/2010 11:23:01 PM PST by FTJM
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To: onyx

These PaleoCons when given the facts just go right past it and keep up with the left Wing propaganda against Sarah Palin.

BTW, we want the 12+ millions of illegals out.
Have never heard from anyone as to who and how 12+million
illegals will be rounded up over the U.S.
Are they shipped back in 100s of C130s or hundreds of trains


73 posted on 02/07/2010 11:23:11 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: FTJM
She supports a path to citizenship.

Yeah, so? We already have a "path to citizenship" encoded in our federal immigration laws. What's your point?

Do you want to make a precise objection to Sarah's recorded statements on illegal immigration, or are you just slinging mud at her?

Perhaps you didn't hear her state on the Rush Limbaugh show, "It's called illegal immigration for a reason."

Or, maybe you did.

74 posted on 02/07/2010 11:31:38 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: FTJM
Ooops, rude comment to me and now I see that you're not all that honest, are you?

Seems you don't like Sarah, so you *do* have an agenda. Imagine that. Your Post #117

75 posted on 02/07/2010 11:33:28 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: SoCalPol

If they don’t have jobs, welfare and sanctuary cities, they will leave on their own.


76 posted on 02/07/2010 11:33:39 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: FTJM

It was sarcasm
______________________________________________________________

That’s one way good people get slandered and never regain their reputation. Folks see a statement like the one you made in this thread, about Debra Medina, believe it, run with it, and never ask if it’s actually true. And, sad to say; it spreads like wildfire.

Spread all the crap you want about Liberals and Dems but please be careful about discrediting good Conservatives just because you don’t like their Race.


77 posted on 02/07/2010 11:36:11 PM PST by no dems (Sarah Palin has more experience than B. Hussein Obama had.)
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To: onyx
Ooops, rude comment to me and now I see that you're not all that honest, are you?

Seems you don't like Sarah, so you *do* have an agenda. Imagine that. Your Post #117

And your comment wasn't rude?

Right, I have an evil agenda. You've blown the case wide open. Well done sir!

78 posted on 02/07/2010 11:36:46 PM PST by FTJM
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To: SoCalPol

Well, yeah, that’s the point.
What to do with them, which is why I sarcastically asked if we could elect Tancredo for a month and put them all in cattle cars, along with the ACLU (I hope).

Attacks on Sarah are out of line.
She is not for amnesty.


79 posted on 02/07/2010 11:37:05 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: FTJM

I am not a sir, Ma’am.


80 posted on 02/07/2010 11:38:12 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: no dems
That’s one way good people get slandered and never regain their reputation. Folks see a statement like the one you made in this thread, about Debra Medina, believe it, run with it, and never ask if it’s actually true. And, sad to say; it spreads like wildfire.

Spread all the crap you want about Liberals and Dems but please be careful about discrediting good Conservatives just because you don’t like their Race.

Give it rest. i like Medina and was mocking someone who has been spamming threads with that stuff.

81 posted on 02/07/2010 11:38:36 PM PST by FTJM
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To: onyx
I am not a sir, Ma’am.

Could have fooled me.

82 posted on 02/07/2010 11:39:11 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

I can see by your beliefs about Sarah that you’re easily fooled. LOL.


83 posted on 02/07/2010 11:41:02 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: ari-freedom

Your link is from over a year ago during the campaign when a VP candidate backs the head of the ticket.

Many VPs in history have given a verbalcomment on the platform position
but they personally may not agree with it.

Sort of like the thousands of FReepers who send their kids to public school and the liberal teachers drone on with
liberal propaganda and read their liberal text books.
Parents may not agree with it but that is the reality.


84 posted on 02/07/2010 11:41:22 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: lmarie373
...if anyone even utters a negative comment about Palin or disagrees with her, people will call you a troll or will say that you fear her...

I'm beginning to think that you really do fear Sarah.



85 posted on 02/07/2010 11:43:56 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I don’t think you’re going to get a reply.
Not a legitimate one, anyway...lol.


86 posted on 02/07/2010 11:47:01 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: ari-freedom

Perhaps FReepers could go to the businesses and homes who employ illegals and protest. There are tens of thousands to choose from.

I live in San Diego and see and hear it first hand and one of the reasons I support Sarah.

BTW, fence or no fence, they are coming by boat.
several boats a week with 20 or more illegals leave Tijuana and land on the beaches here in San Diego around 2 or 3 in the morning.

It takes the Coast Guard and others to deal with it if their are found.


87 posted on 02/07/2010 11:47:04 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Windflier
Yeah, so? We already have a "path to citizenship" encoded in our federal immigration laws. What's your point?

Do you want to make a precise objection to Sarah's recorded statements on illegal immigration, or are you just slinging mud at her?

Perhaps you didn't hear her state on the Rush Limbaugh show, "It's called illegal immigration for a reason."

Or, maybe you did.

My point? Can you read? She supports McCain's position of providing a path to citizenship for illegals who are here in this country. Where does her statement that you posted contradict that? Perhaps you haven't read the countless posts discussing her position. Or maybe you did.

http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?chid=3&schid=10414&secid=25534&cid=1716304&pagenum=2

"To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants? I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country."

88 posted on 02/07/2010 11:54:46 PM PST by FTJM
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To: onyx
I can see by your beliefs about Sarah that you’re easily fooled. LOL.

Beliefs? Interesting choice of word. LOL.

89 posted on 02/07/2010 11:56:42 PM PST by FTJM
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To: lmarie373
To be honest, I was a big supporter of Palin in 2008 and early 2009,then I saw that she is becoming very vague on issues that affects us all and that is the reason I no longer support her blindly.

A former "Big supporter", eh? Pardon me, but you're not convincing in the least. You've done nothing but attempt to sow seeds of doubt about the finest patriot on the national stage on this, and other threads tonight.

My guess is that you're sucking down the MSM's putrid regurgitations about Sarah Palin, or you have very close associations with rabid liberals, who are poisoning your mind.

I'm calling you out, Marie. I think you're a closet liberal. I don't think you care one blip about any of the issues you've brought up here. Your sole intention here is to slam Gov. Palin. Straight up.

90 posted on 02/08/2010 12:01:57 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: FTJM

Sarah Palin has only stated that she supports our current and legal immigration regime.

You’re trying to insinuate that she supports something like the amnesty bill that McCain authored. She’s never said any such thing, nor has she ever voiced any support for illegal immigration, or for “jumping the line”.

Sarah isn’t 100% perfect, but she’s as close to perfection as we’re liable to find in a conservative leader at present. She’s going to have to refine her statements and positions on some issues in the future, and I’m sure she knows that.

Give it time. She’s not even running for office at the moment. She’ll get there in due course, and by that time, she’ll have made her positions on every issue crystal clear to us all.


91 posted on 02/08/2010 12:08:50 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SoCalPol

“Many VPs in history have given a verbal comment on the platform position
but they personally may not agree with it.”

I thought her famous line was “we agree to disagree.”


92 posted on 02/08/2010 12:11:22 AM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: Windflier
Sarah Palin has only stated that she supports our current and legal immigration regime.

You’re trying to insinuate that she supports something like the amnesty bill that McCain authored. She’s never said any such thing, nor has she ever voiced any support for illegal immigration, or for “jumping the line”.

Sarah isn’t 100% perfect, but she’s as close to perfection as we’re liable to find in a conservative leader at present. She’s going to have to refine her statements and positions on some issues in the future, and I’m sure she knows that.

Give it time. She’s not even running for office at the moment. She’ll get there in due course, and by that time, she’ll have made her positions on every issue crystal clear to us all.

I'm not insinuating anything. I posted her comments where she specifically stated that she supports a path to citizenship for illegal aliens here in this country while she was campaigning with McCain, who she is campaigning for now. If she changes her position, she's a flip flopper. Instead of blindly doing her bidding, you should objectively view her positions with the same level of scrutiny as other GOP candidates.

No amnesty, no path to citizenship, no nuance.

93 posted on 02/08/2010 12:16:41 AM PST by FTJM
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To: onyx

Well, I got a reply (or sorts), but it was little more than a false charge about Sarah that’s been repeatedly regurgitated by Palin haters - and repeatedly debunked.

There’s just no way that these people can do this every night unless they’re getting paid for it. Any rational person who was asking an honest question would see the light, and be done with it.


94 posted on 02/08/2010 12:18:08 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: FTJM

PALIN: we need to close the borders.

They are called illegal aliens for a reason and if they are not going to follow the rules they should not be in our country. It’s pretty simple I ratcheted that one down to the simple answer because its an easier answer than some politicians want it to make it be.

You close the borders. You get more aggressive about cracking down on the illegal aliens and we take it serious what our border patrol officers are trying to do

December 2009

Lars Larson radio talk show

LARS: The amnesty proposal that was defeated in Congress — in your view, was that amnesty for illegals and would you back amnesty for a path to citizenship, as the current president calls it?

SARAH PALIN: No, I’m not for amnesty. Let’s ratchet this down quite simply to remember what we’re referring to. Illegal aliens are called “illegal” for a reason.

We need to secure our borders and I am not for amnesty. And there are humane ways to deal with the 11-13 million illegal aliens who are in our country right now, but if they’re not going to follow the rules, they need to get out.


95 posted on 02/08/2010 12:22:53 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ari-freedom

You don’t want answers, your anti war paleo libertarians
will make sure we have a diverse group of illegals here since Ron Paul stated, Iran and North Korea are not a threat. Also said we are “Imperial America” because
we are occupiers and deserved to be attacked.
The IslamOfascists will know if his type were in charge, our cities will look like parking lots in short order.
Won’t have to worry about amnesy anymore.


96 posted on 02/08/2010 12:23:36 AM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

ummm I’m not the one who endorsed Rand Paul.


97 posted on 02/08/2010 12:28:03 AM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: Windflier
PALIN: we need to close the borders.

They are called illegal aliens for a reason and if they are not going to follow the rules they should not be in our country. It’s pretty simple I ratcheted that one down to the simple answer because its an easier answer than some politicians want it to make it be.

You close the borders. You get more aggressive about cracking down on the illegal aliens and we take it serious what our border patrol officers are trying to do

December 2009

Lars Larson radio talk show

LARS: The amnesty proposal that was defeated in Congress — in your view, was that amnesty for illegals and would you back amnesty for a path to citizenship, as the current president calls it?

SARAH PALIN: No, I’m not for amnesty. Let’s ratchet this down quite simply to remember what we’re referring to. Illegal aliens are called “illegal” for a reason.

We need to secure our borders and I am not for amnesty. And there are humane ways to deal with the 11-13 million illegal aliens who are in our country right now, but if they’re not going to follow the rules, they need to get out.

Do you even read what you post? No where in those comments does she dispute what she said about supporting a path to citizenship for illegals who are already here.

"To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country."

If she directly contradicts the previous statement, then she flipped flopped, plain and simple.

No amnesty, no path to citizenship, no nuance.

98 posted on 02/08/2010 12:28:39 AM PST by FTJM
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To: octex

How do you explain this ?

“In 2002, she founded her own business, Prudentia Inc., which specializes in improving medical billing procedures.”

http://912candidates.org/tx/2009/08/20/debra-medina-for-texas-governor-2010/


99 posted on 02/08/2010 12:33:25 AM PST by roylll
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To: ari-freedom

Rand does not hold the same views re GITMO and other areas as Ron.


100 posted on 02/08/2010 12:35:25 AM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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