Skip to comments.Prop. 8 Judge is Reportedly Gay: What to Make of That?
Posted on 02/08/2010 11:20:51 AM PST by DesertRenegade
The lede from an article out Sunday in the SF Chronicle reads as follows:
The biggest open secret in the landmark trial over same-sex marriage being heard in San Francisco is that the federal judge who will decide the case, Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker, is himself gay.
Interesting. So, what to make of this fact?
According to the article, folks arent making much of it. Andy Pugno, general counsel for the group that sponsored the Prop. 8 campaign, rebuffed claims that his group might bring it up if Walker ultimately rules against them. We are not going to say anything about that, Pugno said.
Others quoted in the article say that Walker, appointed to the bench by George H.W. Bush in 1989, say they dont believe that Walkers sexual orientation will affect his ruling on Prop. 8.
Walker has declined to talk about anything involving the Prop. 8 case outside court, and he wouldnt comment to the Chron when we asked about his orientation and whether it was relevant to the lawsuit.
We can certainly understand why the parties might not want to address Walkers sexual orientation: No reason to stir more controversy into a case that will ultimately be settled at the Ninth Circuit or the U.S. Supreme Court. Plus, its not like Judge Walker raised his hand for the case it was reportedly randomly assigned to him.
But is Walkers sexual orientation relevant to the trial? Frankly, its hard to see how its not, especially if you believe that the opinions of judges, try as they might to divorce their personal opinions from their rulings, are invariably colored and informed by their own experiences, just like the rest of us.
(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...
He should recuse himself from the case. Conflict of interest.
I think it depends on his history as a judge.
Ya, he should have recused himself when it was assigned to him.
But they are right, this is only the first round, and the ultimate decision may well be made in the U.S. Supreme Court. Whoever loses this trial will appeal, and whoever loses at the appeals court level will appeal to the Supreme Court.
if a judge is going to benefit from his won decision then he should step down form the case.
this judge will and therefore should step down and why are we even talking about the judge , this should not even be in court and the judge should have said no the constitution states normal marriage now be gone with you and keep your sexual sick mind private
He knows this. I say it is better to have this judge be gay as if he rules against the gays they cannot call him homophobe.
I personally don’t think that sex-offenders and perverts should be judges.
Any bets now on how the Ninth will vote on this? I'm thinking it will be just another overturn waiting to happen when they rule for it.
I think the key is for some investigators to look into his past. In almost every case, these unrepentant homosexuals are hiding something ugly in their past. Look at the case of Kevin Jennings, the homosexual militant that Obama placed in charge of children’s education. All they did was scratch the surface and they found NAMBLA connections and more. Judge Walker is hiding something, it just hasn’t surfaced yet.
I don’t think we have enough information to make a judgment on this.
Should judges who smoke be barred from tobacco cases? Should Christian judges be barred from cases involving religious freedom?
The fact that he is gay should not affect the judges philosophy. (I agree that it might)
you know I’m glad you brought Jennings up.
I watch Beck and see him gong after these radical czars and think great he’s doing a great service to the country but wait someone is missing and that was Jennings.
Did anyone else notice how he never went after Jenning?
He could go after Dunn for saying she likes a mass killer or Van jones for being a commie but nothing about a man placed in charge of safety for our kids at schools.
He was teaching kids how homosexuals stick a fist up another homosexual mans arse and Beck seems to not think this should be covered and where was O.R. who protects the kdis he says on this?
Jennings needs to go and if the public was aware of this kind of radical then the white house would be awash with people demanding Jennings to be fired .
If the public knew about how these homosexuals act then there would be even less support for them as there is now and that’s not much right now
I bet he likes being handed Briefs.
that’s what going to be the cause for appeal on both sides.
He must support the gay position or he’ll be crucified by his own.
“Should judges who smoke be barred from tobacco cases?”
Not a correct analogy. Smoking is not currently illegal while homosexual marriage IS illegal in California. So you have an avowed and unrepentant sodomite judge who is presiding over a case on illegal same-sex marriages. It’s full stop insanity.
Homosexual marriage is illegal. Homosexuality is not.
Your logic says that a Christian judge should always rule in favor of Christian churches.
An honest judge would rule according to the law. Period.
bias is to be removed but not “common sense”
the issue is defining what is “common sense” and in a debate where one of the issues is nature vs nurture definitions are very important.
No matter what this will be appealed.
The judge would be smart to stick to process rather than recreational mating issues.
I wonder why we don’t hear more about the sexual promiscuity of homosexuals and their unnatural acts. The gay advocates are trying to paint this picture of normality that does not exist.
notice how the homosexuals say marriage equality.
the left loves to pay with words to make out their agenda is a great one on the surface but when one thinks about their wolf in sheeps clothing then we get to know the truth about them..
All it takes is a video camera and an event like folson fair to show the masses what homosexuals are really like and believe me 90% of Americans will be repulsed .
I’ll await for hannity,O.R. Beck etc to show these videos but I will not hold my breath.
Ironic that hannity says taking back America and will not talk or even show anything about homosexuals or taking back America from sick perverts
However this is ruled, you can bet it will be headed to the Supreme Court.
The danger here that I see is the anti-Prop 8 people’s argument seems centered around denying the vote because voters may have voted according to a religious belief.
No one can or should be able to ascertain why someone votes as they do.
Arguing this gay judge should not rule in this case would be tantamount to arguing that White Judges shouldn’t rule in cases involving Blacks, Hispanics or what have you.
Isn’t that exactly what we have argued against for so long?
“Homosexual marriage is illegal. Homosexuality is not.”
Marijuana is illegal in many states as well as marijuana paraphernalia. Would it be wrong for a judge who owns drug paraphernalia to preside over drug cases? BTW, it was not so long ago that sodomy was indeed illegal. Was Walker a judge at the time and an avowed criminal? Just food for thought.
“Your logic says that a Christian judge should always rule in favor of Christian churches.”
On the contrary: your logic says that a man who finds the feces and human waste portion of another man to be erotically stimulating is capable of making sound legal rulings. Hello?
People made the same argument when a tobacco case went to the US Supreme Court.
Clarence Thomas is known to smoke cigars. So some wanted him off the case. I didn’t agree then. And I don’t agree now.
Catholic judges should not be automatically kept off cases having to do with priests who molested children.
Judges who smoke should not be automatically kept off cases involving freedom to smoke in public places.
Judges who once ran as a Republican should not be automatically excluded from cases having to do with partisan issues.
And same with this judge. If he has already prejudged the case and compromised himself, that is one thing. If not, the system will sort it out.
There are no "neutral" gays; just quiet ones and 'militant' ones.
If he is gay, then he has a reprobate mind. (See Romans 1:28-32.) If he doesn't recuse himself, then I wouldn't get my hopes up for a fair and impartial ruling.