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College Instructor says Homosexuality is wrong. Trouble with ACLU
CBS47 ^ | 2-8-10 | CAKID1

Posted on 02/08/2010 8:00:00 PM PST by cakid1

A health instructor at Fresno City College is under fire for what he allegedly said about homosexuality.

Two students at the college claim Dr. Bradley Lopez taught religious-based and anti-gay views as scientific fact inside the classroom.

Now the American Civil Liberties Union has sent a demand letter to the college.

The ACLU wants the school ensure that all its health science classes teach unbiased and medically accurate information.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; homosexuality
Free speech at school?
1 posted on 02/08/2010 8:00:00 PM PST by cakid1
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To: cakid1

You cannot have freedom of belief.

Interesting, what if he were a Muslim?


2 posted on 02/08/2010 8:01:15 PM PST by GeronL (Dignity is earned from yourself. Respect is earned from others.)
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To: cakid1

A man sticking his penis into another mans rectum is unhealthy...what did the man say that was wrong?


3 posted on 02/08/2010 8:01:31 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: cakid1

With a name like Lopez, this is gonna be good.


4 posted on 02/08/2010 8:01:32 PM PST by pray4liberty (Liberalism is the religion of narcissists. You read it here first.)
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To: vetvetdoug

He spoke the truth, ACLU cannot permit that!


5 posted on 02/08/2010 8:03:52 PM PST by GregoryFul
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To: cakid1

So the ACLU wants to crack down on Hispanic speech in CA. Hmm.


6 posted on 02/08/2010 8:03:53 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: cakid1
medically accurate information

Two men or two women engaged in sex cannot parent children naturally, thus it is unnatural to do so. Scientific fact and medically accurate.

7 posted on 02/08/2010 8:04:34 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: cakid1

So now it’s wrong to tell the truth?


8 posted on 02/08/2010 8:04:37 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: pray4liberty

“With a name like Lopez, this is gonna be good.”

Yep, ACLU vs. MALDEF... just grab some popcorn and enjoy the show,hehe;)


9 posted on 02/08/2010 8:05:30 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: cakid1
Here is some wickedly funny free speech about this same topic from college professor (with tenure), Mike Adams: Queer Theories and Theologies.
10 posted on 02/08/2010 8:08:26 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Frank_2001

MALDEF will saw Lopez off SO quick.


11 posted on 02/08/2010 8:10:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: cakid1

“The ACLU wants the school ensure that all its health science classes teach unbiased and medically accurate information.”

Two guys pork’n each other is normal and healthy???


12 posted on 02/08/2010 8:10:33 PM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: cakid1

Medically accurate?

How about the fact that homosexuals suffer more from depression and commit suicide at a far greater rate that heteros?

How about the fact that gay men contract STDs, hepatitis, HIV, AIDS, and many other disease at a rate that should put them to shame?

How about the fact that homosexuals are far more likely to be alcoholics and drug abusers?

How about the fact that homosexuals are far more likely to be physically and emotionally abused as well as abusers?

How about the fact that pedophiles are more likely to be homosexual men?

Are those facts okay?


13 posted on 02/08/2010 8:12:13 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: vetvetdoug

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14 posted on 02/08/2010 8:12:22 PM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: JSDude1

And has been for a while. Haven’t you been paying attention?


15 posted on 02/08/2010 8:12:25 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: cakid1

The aCLU going after someone named Lopez. There has to be some racism going on here somewhere.


16 posted on 02/08/2010 8:16:29 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: cakid1

Now hold on, a pure scientist can’t say anything that falls in the moral sphere is wrong (or right). He can tell us that it is asking for trouble, but he can’t say anything about its morality.


17 posted on 02/08/2010 8:21:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: cakid1

Accurate, unbiased information? OK. Sodomites (including bisexuals) account for almost all of the AIDS deaths, a hugely disproportionate percentage of paedophiles, a hugely disproportionate number of those who get syphilis, gonorrhea, and other loathesome sexually transmitted diseases, have a rate of anal cancer about 8000% higher than the rest of the population, abuse alcohol and drugs at much higher rates than others, engage in violence against their sodomite “friends” at much higher levels than normal folks, engage in coprophilia and other revolting fetishistic sexual practices at vastly higher levels than the rest of the population, and believe that they have a right to commit their disgusting sex acts in public. Other than that, they are just like everybody else.


18 posted on 02/08/2010 8:26:10 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: cakid1
Now the American Civil Liberties Union has sent a demand letter to the college.

Hey, ACLU, we'd like to go green and recycle your demands. So in the future please print them on softer paper. This will more than double their usefulness. ;-)

ACLU, {expletive}. Four lies at once. It is un-American. It is anything but civil in its interactions. The only thing it knows about liberties is trampling on them. Union? It is far more about divisiveness than bringing people together.

19 posted on 02/08/2010 8:26:47 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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If they want medically accurate, give them medically accurate!!! How about graphic photos of advanced syphilis, gonorrhea, AIDS, photos of what the body looks like after years of sodomy, the need for diapers when sphincters become non-operational, tell 'em about gerbils and toolboxes. Describe in vivid detail the various foul practices, anonymous promiscuity, and so on. Tell about the early deaths, alone, in the hospital, with AIDS and everything else.

If they want medically accurate, give 'em medically accurate. That would also include information about former homosexuals.

20 posted on 02/08/2010 8:32:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Absolutely - How about some of those other medical facts about male homosexual behavior?

How about the rates of renal disease and renal failure amongst gay men?

How about the data that reflects on average that a homosexual or bisexual lifestyle can reduce the life span of a man by 20 years?

How about the fact that most heterosexuals will never have to worry about protozoal enteric infections?

The truth is the homosexual lobby doesn’t want the medically accurate information about homosexual behavior to be shared.


21 posted on 02/08/2010 8:36:50 PM PST by ushr435
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To: GeronL
You cannot have freedom of belief.

You cannot have freedom of belief.

There!Fixed it!

22 posted on 02/08/2010 8:37:26 PM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: massmike

lol.

Lately I have needed revision. I have a tendency to use run on sentences.


23 posted on 02/08/2010 8:38:27 PM PST by GeronL (Dignity is earned from yourself. Respect is earned from others.)
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To: cakid1

Hmmm, unbiased and medically accurate. Let’s see that would include accurately reporting the comparative incidence rates for AIDS, gonorrhea, syphilis, anal warts, anal cancer,. . . between homosexuals and the general population, now wouldn’t it. Is the left sure they want this?


24 posted on 02/08/2010 8:46:37 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: cakid1
Let's see if I understand....

It's ok to tell kindergarten kids fairy tales about two gay kings or "Heather's Two Mommies" to teach them how "normal" what gay people do is;but a college professor speaking to 18-22 year old young adults can't say anything negative about those same behaviors because someone may be "offended"?

Cue Twilight Zone music......

25 posted on 02/08/2010 8:59:20 PM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: cakid1
The ACLU wants the school ensure that all its health science classes teach unbiased and medically accurate information.

Best thing in the world would be to do just that.

26 posted on 02/08/2010 9:04:42 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: cakid1

Someone suggest this instructor to contact The Catholic League and get Bill Donohue to talk to the College about Freedom of Speech and supporting their employee.

http://www.catholicleague.org/


27 posted on 02/08/2010 9:14:55 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (The left have become lawless. Every strangling edict they issue carries an exemption for themselves.)
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To: The_Reader_David

How about accurate reporting of the actual population statistics of homosexuality?


28 posted on 02/08/2010 9:15:14 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: cakid1

He is not basing anything on religion; it is on Natural Law which is the basis of U.S. law. ACLU should be sued for attacking his freedom to teach fact and Truth. That fascist organization needs to be put out of business. It better not be getting any tax payer funds.

Its very Communist roots tell us how divisive and evil the ACLU truly is. We should post everyone’s name who contributes to that evil communist organization and Alinskyite them. The good things they have done are far outdone by the evil—like representing NAMBLA for free in the rape case of that little boy by the pervert who absorbed all the “how to” info from NAMBLA publication. ACLU has been trying to destroy the Boy Scouts and mainstream homosexuality. Their vision for the US is a bathhouse hellhole with old atheists able to legally bed little boys. That old ACLU alum, Ginsberg, wants to lower the age of consent to 12....all for the frisky, sex-obsessed, youth obsessed, narcissistic, homosexual men.


29 posted on 02/08/2010 9:30:51 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: achilles2000
I had not heard about the increased risk of anal cancer. Makes sense but haven't seen any documentation on it. Anyone with a marble in their head knows this lifestyle is diseaseful and unnatural....but we just can't say it aloud anymore. BTW......thank you Kinsey...one of the original perverts who diligently worked toward the society we have now......How proud his ancestors must be!
30 posted on 02/08/2010 11:06:38 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: GregoryFul

Dr. Bradley Lopez is a professor of allied health; He IS an expert! They presumably hired him for his qualifications. The college administrators and press need to consult with the National Association for Research and Therapy for Homosexuality (NARTH) for the facts on homosexuality, starting with NARTH’s Internet site: http:/ww.NARTH.com
Including a recent online report:
http://www.narth.com/docs/healthrisks.html
Health Risks: Fisting and other Homosexual Practices
Michelle A. Cretella, MD
American College of Pediatricians
Philip M. Sutton, PhD, LMFT, LP
Editor, Journal of Human Sexuality


31 posted on 02/09/2010 5:26:26 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: ThunderSleeps

If Fresno City College will adhere to its Own stated core Values, it will not stifle objective scientific facts, whether they be biological, psychological, and sociological or communal.

http://www.fresnocitycollege.edu/index.aspx?page=229

“As a learner-centered institution, Fresno City College values an educational and cultural environment which promotes:
Success—the college community encourages and motivates students, faculty, and staff to identify and achieve their individual goals by providing quality instruction, programs, services, and processes.

Participation—the college community encourages positive participation by eliminating real or perceived risks of involvement and developing avenues of greater community participation.

Diversity—the college community encourages and respects individual differences.

Collegiality—the college community is committed to working as a team in an open, civil, collegial, and safe environment.

Innovation—the college community supports an environment in which individuals are free to explore new or alternative avenues toward advancing the college’s mission.

Stewardship—the college community is committed to the preservation, conservation, and utilization of its resources.”

http://www.fresnocitycollege.edu/index.aspx?page=254

Fresno City College
1101 East University Ave,
Fresno, CA 93741
(559) 442-4600 (phone) - (559) 237-4232 (fax)


32 posted on 02/09/2010 5:34:53 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: cakid1

of course it’s wrong, it’s not natural nor is it normal.
If schools are to be a place to teach with facts then let all the facts be taught about homosexuality .
I say homosexuality because it is them who like to bring the subject up.
Personally it should not be discussed in schools anyway but seeing as it is brought up then use all the facts and stats..

What do homosexuals men do to each other?
What is their disease rate?
What do homosexual women do to each other?
What is their disease rate?
What is their lifespan compared to normal couples?
Was the body built to be having sex with the same sex?
What are our body functions for and was they designed for sex?

No they won’t raise those little facts or questions because they know people will be repulsed and they will be disgusted plus they will learn what their homosexual friends at he homosexual club are really like.


33 posted on 02/09/2010 6:07:38 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Frank_2001

quite ironic the left wants illegal immigration but it is those illegals who hate homosexuals.
the left sticks up for muslims and yet muslims want homosexuals dead.


34 posted on 02/09/2010 6:08:56 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: achilles2000

ever noticed how the media and the left report about priests touching boys but they do not call it homosexuality .

The fact is that if a man touches a boy then he is a homosexual and a child molester.
Now account for homosexuals being child molesters and you’ll find that most child molesters are also homosexuals .
I found this out which was interesting, homosexuals make up less than 3% of the population and yet they make up of over 62% of serial killers.
the top 6 in this country were all homosexuals or had tendencies .

maybe they can talk about facts infact of the wishy washy crap of they want to be left alone and love, when clearly they do not


35 posted on 02/09/2010 6:12:24 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Outlaw Woman

you wannna bet.
I say it is wrong and unnatural all the time now where as I never used to as it never bothered me until they got into our faces and school.

If I ever get to have this kind of conversation with anyone and that includes strangers then I tell them it is unnatural and you know what ?

When you do you will be surprised at their reaction, they turn around and say yes it is , they’re disgusting.

You’d be surprised how many want to say it openly but do not well that fear is now gone and we need to speak out about this otherwise the homosexuals will win and have this crap in our faces, schools, TV, all the time

also don’t play the left’s game of calling them gay they’re homosexuals.
The left likes to play with words, liberal progressive, jobs bills, climate change instead of global warming, bit hard telling someone it’s getting warm when they have 2 foot of snow


36 posted on 02/09/2010 6:16:55 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: cakid1

Must be more to the story

Can’t picture any attorney, even ACLU, filing without more than two students “hearsay” as evidence.


37 posted on 02/09/2010 6:18:07 AM PST by The_Repugnant_Conservative
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To: Outlaw Woman

If people realized how dangerous the sodomite lifestyle is they would tar and feather any “highly trained education professional” who tries to mainstream or make acceptable the sodomite lifestyle.


38 posted on 02/09/2010 6:22:35 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: manc

Good for you. And the majority of people do find it abhorrent. Just look at how people vote against it when the issue surfaces on a ballot.

No I’m not afraid either..however, I will say that I don’t go out of my way to be ugly and would only do so if they ‘got in my face’.


39 posted on 02/09/2010 7:55:08 AM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: achilles2000

It’s the same with the abortion issue. What is needed are graphic pictures of people that have died from this lifestyle, and images of what it does to the body (wonder if any exist besides aids photos).

It’s imperative that the ‘so called experts’ be called down with facts.


40 posted on 02/09/2010 8:02:00 AM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: Domandred

Unnatural and abnormal.

Precise and accurate.


41 posted on 02/09/2010 8:26:30 AM PST by Eagle Eye (The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

I never protest or anything but if I come across someone who starts to talk about it whether a friend or stranger I just tell them what I say on here and put it in a polite way.
that way they can either be nice back or they can be aggressive, either way it’s their choice but I have found that the vast majority do agree that they find it horrible and disgusting.
Thinking about it I think there has only been one women who never agreed with me and that was on a trip to Boston.
She was OK about it and I reminded her that tolerance and respect is a two way street and my beliefs should be tolerated and respected the same as another view point.

If we do not speak out to school officials etc then they will push their agenda onto us more and more.

Keep the good fight and good luck to you


42 posted on 02/09/2010 9:03:27 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: manc
Keep the good fight and good luck to you

To all of us because we are all now locked in the fight of our lives.

43 posted on 02/09/2010 9:43:14 AM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: Domandred

That and the fact that queers are MASSIVE disease-spreaders!


44 posted on 02/09/2010 12:46:52 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: savagesusie

The fruit of the 60s, pun somewhat intended.


45 posted on 02/09/2010 6:33:49 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: cakid1

‘Hope he has tenure.


46 posted on 02/15/2010 8:31:50 PM PST by onedoug
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