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Former shot-caller is now spilling gang's secrets
Los Angeles Times ^ | 02/08/10 | Sam Quinones

Posted on 02/09/2010 9:00:25 AM PST by AtlasStalled

Francisco "Pancho" Real, a former shot caller for the Drew Street clique of the notorious Avenues gang out of Los Angeles, CA, is spilling his guts, and among his allegations is that criminal defense attorneys "provided him with addresses of witnesses so that he and others could threaten them" as reported by Sam Quinones for the Los Angeles Times. Real has named the attorneys, and "Sandi Gibbons, a spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County district attorney's office, declined to comment."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: crimaliens; gangs; losangeles; narcoterror

1 posted on 02/09/2010 9:00:25 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

The will get ugly with the DA’s involved. Many believe this has gone on for sometime and reaches all the counties here in CA.


2 posted on 02/09/2010 9:04:43 AM PST by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: AtlasStalled

bump


3 posted on 02/09/2010 9:13:40 AM PST by dalebert
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To: AtlasStalled
A short man in a white jumpsuit, shackled and with slicked-back hair falling to his shoulders, Real spoke slowly, leaning into a microphone on the witness stand next to Judge Lance Ito.

Now there's a name from the past...


4 posted on 02/09/2010 9:14:18 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: edcoil

“Many believe this has gone on for sometime and reaches all the counties here in CA.”

Not just in CA, either. There have been a couple of recent high-profile cases in NY and NJ against criminal defense lawyers whom prosecutors allege stepped over the line from representing gang clients to facilitating the criminal organization through witness intimidation and worse.


5 posted on 02/09/2010 9:16:02 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled
Not just in CA, either. There have been a couple of recent high-profile cases in NY and NJ against criminal defense lawyers whom prosecutors allege stepped over the line from representing gang clients to facilitating the criminal organization through witness intimidation and worse.

That happens on Law and Order all the time.

6 posted on 02/09/2010 9:18:03 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: AtlasStalled

... and they wonder why witnesses will not give information - even anonymously. It’s a death sentence for the witness, proving that the death penalty is a deterrent.


7 posted on 02/09/2010 9:18:58 AM PST by bimbo
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To: AtlasStalled

Headline is really poorly written.


8 posted on 02/09/2010 9:23:37 AM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: bimbo

“proving that the death penalty is a deterrent”

good point; I’d never thought about that but you’re right. In cities across America folks are concerned about “snitching” because of deadly retaliation.


9 posted on 02/09/2010 9:25:55 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled
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criminal defense attorneys "provided him with addresses of witnesses so that he and others could threaten them>

Huh.

10 posted on 02/09/2010 9:33:57 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Dancing Itos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQPVA2bGsB4


11 posted on 02/09/2010 9:40:11 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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Yeah, some criminal defense lawyers and their private detective operatives can be really sleazy, and some have been tied to organized crime and street criminals who engage in witness intimidation through online stalking, physical stalking, dirty tricks, express threats and sometimes outright arranging hits. However, local and federal law enforcement increasingly have become more sophisticated in dealing with these lawyers and their operatives, and there’s been a wave of indictments recently, and undoubtedly more are to come.


12 posted on 02/09/2010 9:52:32 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

As a former gang officer who spent 7 years chasing these vermin, I can tell you that all of the episodes described by this gangster absolutely occur. Not just in L.A. which is virtually another world, especially with respect to the gang sub-culture. They extend their tentacles into every facet of Americana. Gangs are a cancer and like rogue nations, they only understand force. They respect force because they practice it but too many of our elected officials and police administrators, sensitive to vocal “community leaders” hamstring the cops on the front line.


13 posted on 02/09/2010 9:56:05 AM PST by Crapgame (What should be taught in our schools? American Exceptionalism, not cultural Marxism...)
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To: AtlasStalled

Hard to see how this guy has a long life ahead of him.


14 posted on 02/09/2010 9:56:55 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Crapgame

I’d send every gang member to Gitmo. Why we even tolerated this in the first place is beyond me.


15 posted on 02/09/2010 10:00:40 AM PST by dfwgator
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Why we even tolerated this in the first place is beyond me.

Democrats need to nurse their cultural pathologies in order to maintain a grasp on power.

16 posted on 02/09/2010 10:12:23 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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I have been called an extremist when I suggested that anyone caught in a gang should be taken out and shot. Of course, theses people are zero voters.

Again, the only way to resolve gang issues is if you are a gang member, get caught, you will be taken out and shot and buried in an unmarked grave. Problem taken care of.....

I’d send every gang member to Gitmo. Why we even tolerated this in the first place is beyond me.
17 posted on 02/09/2010 10:29:34 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: CORedneck
Rule of law my FRiend. Rule of law.

Who gets to define "Gang"?

Harsh measures? Absolutely! Tough, Zero Tolerance, law enforcement?

All for it.

Take them out and shoot them solely because of their association?

Really?

Who gets to define "Gang" again?

18 posted on 02/09/2010 4:21:02 PM PST by Chuckster (Domari nolo!)
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