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Hansen's GISS colleague declared that the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report had "no scientific merit".
Watts Up With That blog ^ | Tuesday, february 9, 2010 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 02/09/2010 10:49:30 AM PST by jpl

While perusing some of the review comments to the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report, I came across the contributions of Andrew Lacis, a colleague of James Hansen’s at GISS. Lacis’s is not a name I’ve come across before but some of what he has to say about Chapter 9 of the IPCC’s report is simply breathtaking.

Chapter 9 is possibly the most important one in the whole IPCC report – it’s the one where they decide that global warming is manmade. This is the one where the headlines are made.

Remember, this guy is mainstream, not a sceptic, and you may need to remind yourself of that fact several times as you read through his comment on the executive summary of the chapter:

"There is no scientific merit to be found in the Executive Summary. The presentation sounds like something put together by Greenpeace activists and their legal department. The points being made are made arbitrarily with legal sounding caveats without having established any foundation or basis in fact. The Executive Summary seems to be a political statement that is only designed to annoy greenhouse skeptics. Wasn’t the IPCC Assessment Report intended to be a scientific document that would merit solid backing from the climate science community – instead of forcing many climate scientists into having to agree with greenhouse skeptic criticisms that this is indeed a report with a clear and obvious political agenda. Attribution can not happen until understanding has been clearly demonstrated. Once the facts of climate change have been established and understood, attribution will become self-evident to all. The Executive Summary as it stands is beyond redemption and should simply be deleted."

I’m speechless. The chapter authors, however weren’t. This was their reply (all of it):

Rejected. [Executive Summary] summarizes Ch 9, which is based on the peer reviewed literature.

Simply astonishing. This is a consensus?


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Folks, this might just as big a revelation as the leaked internal e-mails. Lacis is not a skeptic, he works at NASA right along with Hansen! Astonishing doesn't even begin to cover this.
1 posted on 02/09/2010 10:49:30 AM PST by jpl
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To: jpl
He is like the bad kid who is smart enough to figure out that dad is on to them and maybe they shouldn't keep up their old shenanigans and ‘run a tight ship’ for awhile.

His logical demand that global warming be factually established before a cause is assigned flies in the face of the “Red Queen logic” of most climate “scientists”; “sentence first, trial after”.

2 posted on 02/09/2010 10:53:32 AM PST by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: cogitator

Ping of note.


3 posted on 02/09/2010 10:54:16 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: jpl

Lacis may need to delve into the flaws in depth to get them to start listening.


4 posted on 02/09/2010 10:55:45 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: allmendream

“bu-bu-bu-bu-but, that’s not POSSIBLE! how can all these peer reviewed, blued, and tattooed inbred slyentists be wrong?”


5 posted on 02/09/2010 11:00:16 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
They openly said in their e-mail conspiracy that they were fighting against peer-review, and would “change what peer review means if we have to”.

They had to. They knew they had to.

This stuff wouldn't fly among real scientists, and only barely flew among climate “scientists” and only through constant manipulation and attempts to “game” or change the peer review system.

6 posted on 02/09/2010 11:04:09 AM PST by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: jpl; Desdemona; meyer; Para-Ord.45; Normandy; mmanager; FreedomPoster; carolinablonde; bamahead; ...
 




Trained Astronomer & Climate Superstitionist !

7 posted on 02/09/2010 11:04:15 AM PST by steelyourfaith (FReepers were opposed to Obama even before it was cool to be against Obama.)
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To: steelyourfaith

WOW!


8 posted on 02/09/2010 11:12:14 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: jpl
WOW!
9 posted on 02/09/2010 11:16:11 AM PST by MrDem
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To: MrDem
WOW!
10 posted on 02/09/2010 11:16:43 AM PST by MrDem
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To: jpl

>> Wasn’t the IPCC Assessment Report intended to be a scientific document...

The first order problem.


11 posted on 02/09/2010 11:19:42 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: jpl

I love watching this slow train wreck, the next fool that needs to be hoisted on his petard is Hansen.


12 posted on 02/09/2010 11:20:54 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: jpl
"The presentation sounds like something put together by Greenpeace activists and their legal department."

yup, because that's essentially what it is!

This is a big deal - showing how the vaunted IPCC "process" took no account of criticism of such a fundamentally unsound and anti-scientific approach. IPCC credibility continues to swirl down the tubes.
13 posted on 02/09/2010 11:35:08 AM PST by Enchante (If Obama referred to the "Press Corpse" the MSM might care about his IGNORANCE)
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The real shocker is the msm direct complicitous activity in this scam. Actually CFRIMINAL activity.

Either they didn’t bother to read the Chapter 9 statement. Or they intentionally are continuing to LIE to the public regarding this GW/CC outrage.


14 posted on 02/09/2010 12:30:21 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: jpl; Marty62; allmendream; cogitator; ConservativeMind; HiTech RedNeck; bamahead; MrDem; ...
See this thread in regard to Dr. Hansen:

Hansen barracking for lawless destruction and the end of civilization (NASA director James Hansen)

15 posted on 02/11/2010 10:47:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

‘Barracking’ ?


16 posted on 02/11/2010 11:04:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Ernest


17 posted on 02/12/2010 12:00:14 AM PST by neverdem
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To: HiTech RedNeck; iowamark
Go to thread linked at post #15 and then see post #13....supplied by iowamark
18 posted on 02/12/2010 7:48:31 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; iowamark
Is this coined from Barack Obama?
19 posted on 02/12/2010 9:18:46 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
From :

Verb -- to barrack (third-person singular simple present barracks, present participle barracking, simple past and past participle barracked)

(Australian, New Zealand) to cheer on a team etc


20 posted on 02/12/2010 9:41:00 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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First link works,,...for other implied links go to first link...sorry!


21 posted on 02/12/2010 9:44:23 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Let the finger pointing and abusive language continue between this whole lot. Let them take each other apart. Saves us the trouble of doing it over a long protracted time frame.
What it might take for the major news networks to finally accept the ramifications of them staying silent is yet to be determined. Let their viewer and readership continue to drop to zip. Maybe they will wake up. But I will not hold my breath.
22 posted on 02/12/2010 1:07:40 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: ConservativeMind
"Once the facts of climate change have been established and understood, attribution will become self-evident to all."

Like I said, I don't worry much about what's in the IPCC reports except for WG1. But I sure do agree with the statement from Dr. Lacis above. The problem is, establishing the facts beyond dispute could take another decade or more, and then response and mitigation will be much more difficult and expensive.

But that trajectory is well beyond my ability to change.

23 posted on 02/16/2010 10:29:34 PM PST by cogitator
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