Vatican: Population Growth is a Means of Overcoming Poverty, Not a Cause of It

LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/9/10 | John-Henry Westen

[lmarie373]

Im not pushing for population control nor do I believe in global warming. I dont understand where did you get this from some blogs do get the news from reliable sources and there was at least one newspaper source from nevada that chronicles the water crisis in nevada due to a huge population mainly from illegals.

[trisham]

You’re pretty much a one-trick pony, aren’t you?

[metmom]

And you are adding to your record of an inability to differentiate objective analysis with an agenda.

I can recognize an agenda when I see one, even when it is cloaked as an allegedly objective analysis.

Humans beings are not commodities to have a dollar value assigned to them. Abortions is not about economics. It's about morals and life and murder. Reducing it to money cheapens the value of human life incredibly, and that's the sort of thing that leads to what this article is talking about, poverty.

Yes, the poor will always be with us. I'm not pretending that Christianity will eliminate it. There will always be extenuating circumstances which cause some to be poor at times in their lives, which is a far cry from the massive poverty we see rampant in various parts of the world.

[wagglebee]

Im not pushing for population control nor do I believe in global warming.

ALL of your posts on this thread have been about how you view overpopulation as a problem. When asked for clarification, you give links to sites that push the global warming hoax and push abortion. AlterNet is a hard-core leftist that isn't even welcome on FR.

[verity]

"I can recognize an agenda when I see one, even when it is cloaked as an allegedly objective analysis."

Of course you can. ;-)

BTW, standing alone, the last two paragraphs of your reply have merit.

[verity]

"You’re pretty much a one-trick pony, aren’t you?"

Preferable to being a horse's ass. lol

[EternalVigilance]

Reality is tougher than liberal spin.

A very wise observation.

[trisham]

As I observed previously, you really seem to be getting a kick out of this issue.

Who knew that someone could come onto a thread such as this to taunt, laugh and joke about abortion? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it before, and I’ve seen more than I expected on these threads.

[Persevero]

I said people OVERALL are an asset.

There are some people who, at the end of their lives, you could tote up their positives and negatives and end up with a negative. Charles Manson comes to mind.

The illegal alien who sponges and commits crimes? A deficit. The one who pays works and pays taxes but never collects, and pulls a mom from a burning car? An asset.

People OVERALL are an asset, however.

[Persevero]

“As much as you attempt to defend Wagglebee and the Pope’s false assertion, you fail.”

How about God’s assertions? “Be fruitful and multiply.” Was God false, too? Careful how you answer.

[wagglebee]

It’s strange what some people label as “funny”, I’m sure some around here were nodding their heads in agreement when Obama said that babies were “punishment”.

[trisham]

No doubt, although there are fewer now that openly promote the culture of death.

[wagglebee]

The statement below is about as open as you can get:

From a purely economic standpoint, you need to do a cost benefit analysis comparing the cost of one abortion vis-a-vis several decades of public assistance.

[trisham]

Smashing any appeal to undertake population control in the name of alleviating poverty, the pope added: "The extermination of millions of unborn children, in the name of the fight against poverty, actually constitutes the destruction of the poorest of all human beings."

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Remember, this isn't about abortion. Unless of course, one has read the article.

[RnMomof7]

LOL...

[wagglebee]

It’s amazing what people will convince themselves of.

[trisham]

Yes. Like convincing themselves that abortion does not involve the killing of a baby. Like that.

[wagglebee]

Or convincing themselves that they are somehow opposed to Obama, when they both want the same thing and both think the taxpayers should pay for it.

[trisham]

Exactly like that.

[SuziQ]

Uh, the Vatican has never said that having humans caused Global Warming. What the Vatican has said about the environment is that we should be good stewards of God's Creation, pure and simple.

Prince Charles, well...