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Vatican: Population Growth is a Means of Overcoming Poverty, Not a Cause of It
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/9/10 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 02/09/2010 3:54:56 PM PST by wagglebee

NEW YORK, February 9, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) - As nations around the world are beginning to feel the effects of plummeting birth rates, the Vatican’s representative to the United Nations has stressed that population growth is the key to overcoming poverty. Speaking before the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations, Archbishop Celestino Migliore said, “too often population growth is viewed as the cause of poverty whereas it is a means of overcoming it, for only within the work force can the solution for poverty be found.”

The archbishop explained: “where economic growth rates have declined, the answers lie not in trying to close society to others and pushing for population decline but rather in creating a society which is open to and encourages life.”  He added, “Promoting life and the family and finding ways to integrate the contribution of all people will allow societies to realize their full potential and achieve development.”

While population control was pushed at the Copenhagen summit on climate change and is still funded in the billions by the world’s elite, population control measures have largely been discredited as a valid means of reducing poverty. 

University of Calgary political scientist Tom Flanagan recently spoke of the “now discredited theory that poverty in the Third World is based on overpopulation,” in comments to the National Post.  “I don’t think any serious scholar believes that anymore,” he added.

The Vatican push against population control measures was raised by the pope last year.  In his World Day of Peace message for January 1, 2009, Pope Benedict XVI deplored the "international campaigns afoot to reduce birth-rates, sometimes using methods that respect neither the dignity of the woman, nor the right of parents to choose responsibly how many children to have; graver still, these methods often fail to respect even the right to life."

Smashing any appeal to undertake population control in the name of alleviating poverty, the pope added: "The extermination of millions of unborn children, in the name of the fight against poverty, actually constitutes the destruction of the poorest of all human beings."

In his message, the Pope brought demographic evidence to defend his views. "Nor must it be forgotten that, since the end of the Second World War, the world's population has grown by four billion, largely because of certain countries that have recently emerged on the international scene as new economic powers, and have experienced rapid development specifically because of the large number of their inhabitants. Moreover, among the most developed nations, those with higher birth-rates enjoy better opportunities for development.

"In other words, population is proving to be an asset, not a factor that contributes to poverty," the pope concluded.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthrate; catholic; clowns; moralabsolutes; moralcontradictions; populationcontrol; poverty; prolife
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To: wagglebee

Hear hear, the Vatican got it right with this one.

People are overall an ASSET, not a DEFICIT.


21 posted on 02/09/2010 5:13:04 PM PST by Persevero
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To: lmarie373

“the effects of a high population in Ca :(”

The problems of California are not due to its population. They are due to its socialism.


22 posted on 02/09/2010 5:14:05 PM PST by Persevero
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To: Persevero

In nevada they are having a water shortage as well as Ca its due to overpopulation
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread100757/pg1
http://www.alternet.org/water/143902/california’s_water_crisis_is_just_the_beginning_for_water_woes_in_the_u.s.?page=entire


23 posted on 02/09/2010 5:19:29 PM PST by lmarie373 ("Im a light skinned mexican-american with no mexican dialect ")
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To: Persevero

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/oct/30/many-dangers-overpopulation/


24 posted on 02/09/2010 5:20:31 PM PST by lmarie373 ("Im a light skinned mexican-american with no mexican dialect ")
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To: verity

Haiti and Bangladesh show the evils of corruption and socialism.

Not population.

If that were so, highly populated nations would be poor, low population nations would be wealthy.

Most populous nations:

China
India
US
Indonesia
Brazil
Pakistan
Bangladesh
Nigeria
Russia
Japan

List of wealthies nations:

US
Japan
China
Germany
France
UK
Italy
Russia
Spain
Brazil

If higher populations = poverty, why are five countries on BOTH lists????


25 posted on 02/09/2010 5:22:47 PM PST by Persevero
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To: lmarie373

No,, the water shortage in CA is due to poor planning and environmental naziism.


26 posted on 02/09/2010 5:23:30 PM PST by Persevero
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To: Persevero

what about nevada? they dont have enviro nazis there


27 posted on 02/09/2010 5:24:51 PM PST by lmarie373 ("Im a light skinned mexican-american with no mexican dialect ")
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To: Persevero

Also please see my list of the most populous vs. the wealthiest nations. Why are the five of the wealthiest nations also the most populous if population = poverty?


28 posted on 02/09/2010 5:25:07 PM PST by Persevero
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To: lmarie373

Not being too aware of Nevada’s politics, I can’t reply. I won’t pretend to know why they have a water problem EXCEPT

that it is mostly desert? And so there is not enough water there for everybody.

SO if they want a bunch of people there they need to compensate for that and I guess they have not?


29 posted on 02/09/2010 5:26:16 PM PST by Persevero
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To: Persevero; lmarie373
“the effects of a high population in Ca :(”

Compare the number and type of jobs a population of 300,000,000 can provide compared to a population of 300,000 or 300 or 3. The degree of specialization of labor and diversification of economy is tied to population size, level of technology, and easy availability of energy.
30 posted on 02/09/2010 5:28:24 PM PST by aruanan
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To: lmarie373; Persevero; Coleus; narses; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; EternalVigilance; ...
The first site you gave was simply a wacko conspiracy site, but the second, "AlterNet", REALLY takes the cake.

Here is the bio sketch of the author of the piece:

Susan J. Marks is an award-winning journalist with more that 30 years experience. Her new book, Aqua Shock, sounds the alarm for states throughout the U.S., warning that water is a shrinking resource and is threatened by contaminants, overdevelopment, water overuse, rising population, climate change, antiquated infrastructure and outdated water-treatment plants.

Here are some of the other stories that AlterNet treats as "news":

Vagina Monologues Author Begins Her Quest For a "Girl Revolution"

Planned Parenthood Posts Pro-Woman Ad, Putting the Pressure on CBS

Battle Over Super Bowl Abortion Ad Rages on: Is Tim Tebow's Birth Story Even True?


31 posted on 02/09/2010 5:31:11 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Persevero

Im sorry but Ive been to mexico to see the ugly consequences of overpopulation

Overpopulation: Reasons and Consequences
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/11913/overpopulation_reasons_and_consequences.html

The Effects of Overpopulation
http://davidlateu.blogspot.com/2009/10/dailly-assignment-effects-of.html

What are consequences of over population in india?
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070622032136AAvx833


32 posted on 02/09/2010 5:33:16 PM PST by lmarie373 ("Im a light skinned mexican-american with no mexican dialect ")
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To: wagglebee

Some users have taken stories from alternet I honestly dont remember but who but I have seen it on FR! Sorry for the first link I admit I made a mistake


33 posted on 02/09/2010 5:34:54 PM PST by lmarie373 ("Im a light skinned mexican-american with no mexican dialect ")
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To: lmarie373; Persevero; Coleus; narses; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; EternalVigilance; ...
Im sorry but Ive been to mexico to see the ugly consequences of overpopulation

Population has NOTHING to do with economic repression troll.

34 posted on 02/09/2010 5:38:00 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: lmarie373; Persevero; Coleus; narses; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; EternalVigilance; ...

Again, you are posting links to climate change wackos. You are a TROLL.


35 posted on 02/09/2010 5:39:29 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: verity; wagglebee; little jeremiah; PatHimself; Wuli; lmarie373

It’s not population or population growth that is what causes poverty, it’s culture and religion.

Societies which value human life and have moral standards and integrity in their work ethic and treatment of others, will produce wealth.

The nations which have the highest standard of living, the best education and health care system, and the most innovation and progress are by and large predominantly Christian nations.


36 posted on 02/09/2010 6:06:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee

AMEN!

If you don’t believe this move to the mid-west and see how the economy is in negative growth areas.


37 posted on 02/09/2010 6:15:13 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: livius
...Declining birthrate = no workers, no productivity, no customers, no nothing.....

I believe that following the various Plagues which reduced Europe's population, also increased the living standards for the survivors?

38 posted on 02/09/2010 6:35:42 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: wagglebee

Population growth is a means of overcoming poverty...PROVIDED THE ECONOMY PROVIDES AMPLE OPPORTUNITIES. And provided natural resources are plentiful.

An atrophied economy coupled with a robust population growth rate is not a good combination. In such a situation where human lives are the most plentiful resource, human lives will necessarily become the lowest value commodity.


39 posted on 02/09/2010 6:37:05 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: wagglebee

Drug cartels are destroying life in Mexico. To blame overpopulation is nonsense. Blame the drug cartels for wrecking Mexico. (this is for the troll).


40 posted on 02/09/2010 6:43:22 PM PST by floriduh voter (Charlie Crist, pls stop your Senate bid & go make Halloween costumes w/ your wife.)
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