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Police: Man with weapons cache was preparing for 'Armageddon'
Globe ^ | Today | Geisler

Posted on 02/10/2010 9:53:50 AM PST by jessduntno

By Stefanie Geisler, Globe Correspondent

A Manchester-by-the-Sea man arrested for stockpiling weapons and ammunition in his home allegedly told police he was preparing for Armageddon.

Gregory D. Girard, 45, was arrested Tuesday night for allegedly storing approximately 20 weapons and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

Just before 11:30 p.m. Tuesday, Manchester-by-the Sea police executed a search warrant at 23 Bridge St., police said. Girard faces four counts of possession of an infernal device and four counts of possession of a dangerous weapon. Additional charges are pending, police said.

“Mr. Girard indicated he was preparing for ‘Armageddon,’ which he felt was imminent, and he felt martial law would soon be imposed,” Chief Glenn McKiel said in a statement.

In addition to the weapons and ammunition, police found a large collection of camouflage clothing, knives, bulletproof vests, helmets, and several pairs of handcuffs. They also discovered stockpiles of medicine and nonperishable foods. An illegal indoor shooting range was also found in the attic, police said.

Police seized all the weapons and ammunition and revoked Girard’s license to carry firearms.

Police negotiators attempted to reach Girard by phone before executing the search warrant but were unsuccessful. Tactical officers evacuated two other condominium units in the building and brought residents to the police department while the search was completed.

Girard has no criminal record, according to police. He was to be arraigned today in Salem District Court.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: armed; bang; banglist; cache; donttreadonme; goa; jbt; massafascists; nra; preparedness; rapeofliberty; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: Red_Devil 232
"What the heck is an - infernal weapon?"

Could be a copy of the New York Times. lol

51 posted on 02/10/2010 10:15:25 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: jessduntno; EGPWS

What is the limit on how many rounds you are allowed to possess? I’ve not heard there are any limits.

Also, never heard of limits on how many guns you could own. Just another freedom stripped from the people.


52 posted on 02/10/2010 10:15:37 AM PST by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: GeronL
Exactly where was he breaking the law?

I've heard of cases where the police will seize 20 guns -- then, when they get back to the station and inventory those 21 guns, they'll find one that is unregistered or illegallu modified. Then you're in trouble.

53 posted on 02/10/2010 10:16:43 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I was born in America, but now I live in Declinistan.)
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To: trussell

This is in England.


54 posted on 02/10/2010 10:17:29 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: jessduntno
Girard faces four counts of possession of an infernal device and four counts of possession of a dangerous weapon.

Everyone knows that infernal devices are the proprietary software that keeps governments alive!

55 posted on 02/10/2010 10:18:18 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: tet68

If this is England, how would he have a permit?


56 posted on 02/10/2010 10:18:43 AM PST by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: BuffaloJack
I couldn’t find the part in the 2nd amendment where it limits the quantities of arms you can possess.

Mine says it's necessary that we be armed.

57 posted on 02/10/2010 10:19:18 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 384 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Soothesayer

making your own guns, bullets and gunpowder is fairly easy. getting accurate guns is a harder.. making your own primers is the tough part.

you can make an adequate muzzle loader out of whats in your house right now.


58 posted on 02/10/2010 10:19:45 AM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: trussell

My mistake, it’s in Mass.

Manchester-by-the-Sea (also called just Manchester) is a town on Cape Ann, in Essex County, Massachusetts, in the United States.

This makes it even more insane.


59 posted on 02/10/2010 10:19:49 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Unfortunately, it happened in Massachusetts, USA. Fifteen miles further north and he would have had no problem (except perhaps for the indoor range).


60 posted on 02/10/2010 10:20:54 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: tet68

An infernal device is probably a copy of the Constitution.


61 posted on 02/10/2010 10:21:18 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: OB1kNOb
Good thing I lost all my guns and ammo in a boating accident last year

divorce has the same effect.
62 posted on 02/10/2010 10:21:46 AM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: EGPWS

“Boy are a lot of us in trouble now.”

Amen, brother. All American citizens are in very deep trouble whether they own weapons or not.

The EPA and IRS just bought stockpiles of weapons.

Martial law is a lot closer than people think but it won’t be imposed upon everyone at the same time.

They’ll implement it a little bit at a time over small portions of the population to prevent all-out revolution.


63 posted on 02/10/2010 10:21:57 AM PST by El Gran Salseron
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sounds like it might be that way


64 posted on 02/10/2010 10:22:30 AM PST by GeronL (Dignity is earned from yourself. Respect is earned from others.)
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To: jessduntno
Whooooeeee! Man, am I ever glad I escaped from Madsachusetts!!!

Good thing these nazis never checked out my home! I had a serious reloading setup and a 10-Meter range in my basement, and, at any given time, I probably had that many firearms outside of my big gun safe...

And, between us, my son and I had a pretty impressive collection of historic edged weapons and other military items.

Of course, I had a "All Lawful Purposes" MA LtCF, and I never caused anyone the least bit of a problem. Yet the MA Nazis apparently think they had the right and cause to hassle me like they did this fellow.

TX (no longer, thank G_d) n MA

65 posted on 02/10/2010 10:25:04 AM PST by TXnMA (D'Aleo re Hansen's "GISS" temperature database: "Non Gradus Anus Rodentum!")
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To: El Gran Salseron
They’ll implement it a little bit at a time over small portions of the population to prevent all-out revolution.

As they implement ALL of their freedom grabbing promotions, a little bit at a time so it doesn't hurt so much.

66 posted on 02/10/2010 10:25:57 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: jessduntno
Gregory D. Girard, 45, was arrested Tuesday night for allegedly storing approximately 20 weapons and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

LOL! This describes the average member of the gun clubs to which I belong. Gotta love them Lib reporters!

67 posted on 02/10/2010 10:30:54 AM PST by pabianice
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To: tet68

That’s what I first thought ... but ... it’s not. It’s MA.

I fail to see what “crime” there was. (And, as a prior poster said, the guy was right.)


68 posted on 02/10/2010 10:31:04 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Pelosi is practically President; the Obama is just her talk show host.)
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To: GeronL

I would have to use a backhoe.


69 posted on 02/10/2010 10:33:57 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: verity
Girard faces four counts of possession of an infernal device and four counts of possession of a dangerous weapon.

Everyone knows that infernal devices are the proprietary software that keeps governments from having to answer pesky questions! It's right there under 'pesky questions' in the Dept. of Redundancy Dept.

70 posted on 02/10/2010 10:40:16 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: jessduntno

When is the NRA and the Gun Owners of America going to announce the formation of a legal team to defend the outrage committed against this man?


71 posted on 02/10/2010 10:41:18 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (The first American Revolution started in Massachusetts. So did the second one, on January 19, 2010!)
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To: camerongood210

Of course it’s dangerous, would be kind of pointless if it wasn’t.


72 posted on 02/10/2010 10:43:29 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: jessduntno
Jury Nullification!
73 posted on 02/10/2010 10:43:42 AM PST by Niteranger68 ("Obama voters will pay dearly!")
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To: OB1kNOb

“Good thing I lost all my guns and ammo in a boating accident last year.”

You too? There’s a lot of that going around...


74 posted on 02/10/2010 10:45:31 AM PST by jessduntno (If Bawney Fwank talks in his sleep, is it considered wetting the bed?)
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To: trussell
"Also, never heard of limits on how many guns you could own. Just another freedom stripped from the people."

Bammy and his boy are probably itching to get rid of that pesky "Bill of Rights" stuff...


75 posted on 02/10/2010 10:47:13 AM PST by jessduntno (If Bawney Fwank talks in his sleep, is it considered wetting the bed?)
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To: jessduntno
They need to speak to the ATF and FBI about properly identifying and handling these people. If they are stockpiling weapons and ammunition then they are a Neo-Nazi racist who is endangering children and should be shot on sight. At the very least his family members should be shot on sight and his home burned to the ground.
76 posted on 02/10/2010 10:47:27 AM PST by Lewis Morris (Having lost sight of our goals, we redouble our efforts!)
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To: OB1kNOb

Thanks a lot! That was my boat that your boat ran into. Lost everything too.


77 posted on 02/10/2010 10:49:11 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: tet68

“My mistake, it’s in Mass.”

I lived there once. The fire station burned down while I was there. A real hotbed of fringe types...avg age 50-60, avg. income 150k plus. Lefty central for the MA green pants crowd...I worked topping trees for a tree surgeon on some unbelievable estates.


78 posted on 02/10/2010 10:50:37 AM PST by jessduntno (If Bawney Fwank talks in his sleep, is it considered wetting the bed?)
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To: jessduntno

And why was he arrested??? He sounded OK to me.


79 posted on 02/10/2010 10:55:21 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: jessduntno
Remember that this is Massachusetts where mere possession of an empty brass cartridge case without the proper "papers" is a felony.

He was licensed and had no criminal record.

Obviously the JBTs in MA would prefer to hunt down and arrest those "types" than to have to deal with messy criminals...

80 posted on 02/10/2010 10:55:21 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: jessduntno
“Mr. Girard indicated he was preparing for ‘Armageddon,’ which he felt was imminent, and he felt martial law would soon be imposed,” Chief Glenn McKiel said in a statement.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...

81 posted on 02/10/2010 10:56:43 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: jessduntno
In addition to the weapons and ammunition, police found a large collection of camouflage clothing, knives, bulletproof vests, helmets, and several pairs of handcuffs. They also discovered stockpiles of medicine and nonperishable foods. An illegal indoor shooting range was also found in the attic, police said.

That is nothing compared to my neighborhood. Piker.
82 posted on 02/10/2010 11:00:31 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: jessduntno

Watch for echoes of this repeating in other states. This is how they do it, and have done it everywhere, including my home country, Australia.


83 posted on 02/10/2010 11:01:10 AM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: El Gran Salseron
Two pistols, one solid battle-rifle.

That's all I'd bother keeping.

84 posted on 02/10/2010 11:01:51 AM PST by Lazamataz (Hey Obama, Can You Hear Me Now....? GOOOOoood......)
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To: jessduntno
Then they would definitely hull this guy away and throw away the key.

I Like Guns Music Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU&feature=player_embedded

85 posted on 02/10/2010 11:03:10 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: jessduntno

I had to look up Manchester-by-the Sea and it’s in Massachusetts. Does Massachusetts have laws limiting the number of guns you can have?


86 posted on 02/10/2010 11:04:18 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: jessduntno

I found an internet discussion, dated October 7, 2009 on Amazon.com, apparently from Gregory Gerard from Manchester, MA (follow the link below to 4th post). Could Patriot Act be used by DHS and/or NSA to monitor internet discussions? Customer forum topic was “How to Survive the End of the World as we know It — Tactics, Techniques, and Technologies in Uncertain Times”... discussing .223 versus .308 as your MBR.

http://www.amazon.com/223-308-for-MBR/forum/FxRMWIA1FCUPAD/Tx1FS9BGN3KJ2W3/1?_encoding=UTF8&asin=0452295831


87 posted on 02/10/2010 11:05:30 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: EGPWS
That's against the law???

It is in the People's Republic of Massachusetts.

Like shouting fire in a crowded theater... what if Armageddon did come?

88 posted on 02/10/2010 11:05:31 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: BuffaloJack

UK.


89 posted on 02/10/2010 11:06:28 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: BuffaloJack

UK - guess not.


90 posted on 02/10/2010 11:07:56 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: WellyP
"he was preparing for Armageddon"

Who isn't?


91 posted on 02/10/2010 11:08:00 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: ClearCase_guy

240 years ago, not too far from Manchester By the Sea there were a few of those “crazy nutcases” that decided that they did not like their government.
Those crazy nutcases were named Samuel Adams, Paul Revere,
Samuel Prescott and John Sullivan among others
.
From the History of Fort William & Mary Portsmouth,NH :

“On December 13, 1774, Paul Revere rode from Boston with a message that the fort at Rhode Island had been dismantled and troops were coming to take over Fort William and Mary. The following day the drums beat to collect the Sons of Liberty, and 400 men from Portsmouth, Rye and New Castle raided the fort and removed 98 barrels (approximately five tons) of gun powder.

The next night, a small party led by John Sullivan carried off 16 pieces of small cannon and military stores. This raid took place months before the incidents at Concord and Lexington in April 1775(know as the shot heard round the world).


92 posted on 02/10/2010 11:09:45 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: jessduntno
I think this is is Mr Girard:
Yeah he looks really dangerous /s
http://girardcp.com/principal.htm
93 posted on 02/10/2010 11:09:46 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: BuffaloJack

Sadly this was not in the USA but the UK.


94 posted on 02/10/2010 11:11:19 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: broken_arrow1

Another link from some of his thoughts on a book at Amazon...interesting guy...if the NRA doesn’t jump on this, I don’t know why.

20 of 23 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Finally A Creation Story That Fits the Data, January 14, 1999

As a professional scientist with a background in both biochemistry and computer science, I have been struck with the arcane stories that otherwise logical scientists have posited to account for why the earth is the way it is, and why there is life on it. While they will generally agree on principles of thermodynamics, entropy, and the matter/energy/time inter-relationships that we now hold as scientific fact, they are particularly more “open minded” when it comes to non-theistic theories regarding the origins of life or the universe. In fact, it would seem that for years, concepts like an “ageless universe” and evolution have become very ingrained in much of the scientific community. In fact, logic seems to have been entirely abandoned by evolutionists that ardently deny creationism; even a marginal thinker eventually realizes that the only significant difference between the evolutionist view and creationist view is the number of creation events. Modern cosmology and origin of life theories the presume no divine element can be characterized generally as speculative and largely unsupported, BUT these very same notions together have become somewhat of an alter-religion in itself that seems to create quite a few believers of ardent faith (see other reviews of this book by those offended at Dr. Ross’s view).

Dr. Ross introduces the reader to a number of modern superstitious cosmology arguments and clearly shows how the latest advances in mathematics, physics, and astronomomy (particularly the dramatic discoveries of the Hubble telescope) do not support the modern alter-religion’s notion of the universe. In fact, he takes the argument a step further and makes what I found to be a stunningly compelling case for the model set forth some thousands of years ago in the bible. Engaged by this notion when I first read this book some years ago, I conducted my own investigation of these same matters and came to similar conclusions as Dr. Ross.

I have always felt that science is at its very best when it evokes a sense of the divine. Indeed anyone reading this book may think much differently about the universe after reading the book than before. Since Dr. Ross wrote this book, several new books have been published on the same subject supporting Dr. Ross’s perspective, and in fact there has been much more scientific evidence dug up that points that way. Perhaps it will not be long from today that in critical and intellectually rigorous circles, a writer may risk his or her credibility more by attempting to refute Dr. Ross’s Christian view of the universe than by simply agreeing with it.

There have been some minor disputes over whether Dr. Ross took some conclusions too far or misused a constant in some way. I have seen many of these objections and can say that some seem quite valid, some not valid, and many I just cannot tell because I’m not a mathematician. No matter, because even if every argument raised was conceded by Dr. Ross, the validity of his principal arguments would be largely unchanged. They really add up to trivia in how they affect the overall argument.

I recommend reading all Dr. Ross’s books and then read all of attempts to refute him. To explain the same phenomena, the secular scientific critics violate Occam’s Razor constantly, asserting arguments so illogical that one cannot but help but feel embarrassed for them. Thank you Dr. Ross for giving scientists a reason to stay excited about the wonders that nature and the universe hold for us all.


95 posted on 02/10/2010 11:14:05 AM PST by jessduntno (If Bawney Fwank talks in his sleep, is it considered wetting the bed?)
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To: Soothesayer

If by “gunpowder” you mean black powder, the ingredients are inexpensive enough, and sulpher and lamp black (or any fine carbon powder-which you can make yourself) are easy enough to get, but the potassium nitrate (or sodium natrate) might be a little difficult to obtain—haven’t tried recently.

[The formula: 76% Potassium Nitrate, 14% Charcoal, and 10% Sulfur, but I always used 15 parts to 3 parts to 2 parts, and used any measure that was handy. It’s not very fussy stuff.]

I made black power all the time when I was a kid (err, that was about 50+ years ago) and bought all the ingredients at the drug store.

Things have change.

If you want to make a modern version of “gun powder,” you’ll have to learn to make gun cotton (cellulose nitrate) and nitroglycerine. A little more difficult, (made them too, as a youngster), but not sure you can get any of the “ingredients” (like sulphuric and nitric acid), and they certainly won’t be cheap. Bought those things directly from Merck & Merck. My Grandfather was a pharmacist and gave me all his old catalogs, and a lot of chemicals, too. Try that these days.

The nitrocellulos and nitroglycerine are not something you want to fool with unless you’re a chem geek like I was (wouldn’t even considerate it today), and making them into anything useful is not easy, requiring other processes like stablizers and solvents, like ether, to form pellets and sheets.

Reloading propellants are inexpensive and that’s the way to go. All made and formulated for you.

Hank


96 posted on 02/10/2010 11:14:24 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: ClearCase_guy

“In MA you have to be licensed (and your local police chief decides that matter for you. If he doesn’t like you, or if he doesn’t like guns, tough).
In addition, every gun has to be registered. I believe it’s one year in jail if you have an unregistered gun.”

It’s hard to believe, but it is true. Every license is voted up or down by the Chief of the town, no appeal.


97 posted on 02/10/2010 11:15:58 AM PST by jessduntno (If Bawney Fwank talks in his sleep, is it considered wetting the bed?)
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To: Nebr FAL owner
Sadly this was not in the USA but the UK.

Are you sure about that. Salem District Court?
98 posted on 02/10/2010 11:16:11 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

These raids on the British Fort William and Mary on New Castle Island, NH resulted in the death of one British soldier. These were the first real shots fired in the American Revolution. They took place five months prior to the battle at Lexington & Concord, MA.

Just a history tidbit.


99 posted on 02/10/2010 11:16:59 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: heysean
I don’t understand...were these illegal or unregistered weapons?

Article XVII. The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence CONSTITUTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS.

How can their *be* illegal weapons or a requirement to register them in the commonwealth? Oh, I forgot progressives only apply Constitutions when it suits them.

An "infernal device" is likely an explosive device of some sort (maybe a grenade? or homemade claymore?)

100 posted on 02/10/2010 11:21:42 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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