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Nelson defects from Dems over trials
The Hill ^ | February 10, 2010 | J. Taylor Rushing

Posted on 02/10/2010 3:49:39 PM PST by jazusamo

Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson joined a bipartisan effort on Wednesday to block the administration from trying the Sept. 11th suspects in civilian courts.

Nelson (Neb.) signed onto legislation offered by Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Jim Webb (D-Va.) to require military commission trials for those suspects. Nelson made the announcement in a conference call with reporters, primarily citing the costs of security for the trials.

“I believe that given the severe costs and security risks associated with holding these trials in civilian court, the best course of action would be to use military commissions,” Nelson said. “When the Justice Department announced late last year that they intended to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the 9/11 co-conspirators in civilian courts in New York City there was an outcry about this plan and the effects and the costs it would inflict on New York and all Americans."

Known as one of the Senate's most conservative Democrats, Nelson has been somewhat of a thorn in the side of the Obama administration recently.

Nelson cited a letter that New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg sent to President Barack Obama, protesting the decision to hold the trials in his city because of the associated security costs. Nelson said recent estimates have reached $1 billion.

"Mayor Bloomberg was right that New York City should not have to bare the burden of this unfunded mandate from the federal government, but neither should American taxpayers," Nelson said. “Given the immense costs and associated risks, I believe that trying those charged with the attacks of 9/11 in military commissions is the appropriate course of action."

And that wasn't Nelson's only move against the administration this week.

On Wednesday, he supported the GOP's effort to block the confirmation of Craig Becker, the administration's appointee to the National Labor Relations Board. Becker failed to receive the 60 votes he needed to move forward in the confirmation process.

In December, Nelson was a longtime holdout on the healthcare reform bill, only guaranteeing his support after Democratic leaders promised to help his state with future Medicaid costs. The deal was roundly criticized by Republicans as "the Cornhusker kickback," prompting Nelson in January to ask that it be removed from the legislation.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 911trials; bennelson; bho44; jimwebb; terrortrials

1 posted on 02/10/2010 3:49:39 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Sen. Nelson wants to save his job. It may be too late.


2 posted on 02/10/2010 3:53:38 PM PST by Son-Joshua (son-joshua)
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To: Son-Joshua

Too late is right, it’ll be a long uphill climb to save it.


3 posted on 02/10/2010 3:55:44 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Miss Nelson will be a good boy from now on....Nebraskans need to remember when the time to vote no on Obamacare came, this guy folded like a cheap tent and made a sleazy back room deal......I would like to color him GONE.


4 posted on 02/10/2010 3:56:31 PM PST by 2010Freeper
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To: jazusamo

Nice gesture Ben but I hope it is too little to late to save your phony baloney job.

Principles aren’t just something you decide to have one day.


5 posted on 02/10/2010 3:57:50 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: 2010Freeper

Hopefully he won’t be able to fool the NE voters again, you’re dead on about him folding.


6 posted on 02/10/2010 3:58:53 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Several weeks ago, Robert Gibbs went on MTP (I think) and said that KSM would be tried, found guilty and executed for his crimes. In the military system of justice, such a statement coming from the Executive Branch, but especially from the WH, could be seen in an appellate review of the case as "undo command influence", something that is forbidden under the US principles of military justice.

I believe Gibbs' statement was entirely intentional, and specifically worded to force the hand of the administration (by design) to try KSM in the civilian federal court, where such proclamations aren't helpful, but aren't grounds for appeal.

7 posted on 02/10/2010 3:59:22 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: jazusamo
Hopefully the voters of Nebraska can now see right through him.He works for Dirty Harry,not for them.
8 posted on 02/10/2010 3:59:49 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: jazusamo
Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson joined a bipartisan effort on Wednesday to block the administration from trying the Sept. 11th suspects in civilian courts.

Nelson got what he wanted from Obama and now is focusing on a win in November 2012.

These pro self politicians have no scruples when they are liberal without conviction for country.

Obama, Nelson. All the same..

9 posted on 02/10/2010 3:59:56 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: jazusamo

Yeah, that was Harry in the car that just left. So what? He bought a piece of me, OK? It's what I do.

Now look, I'm gonna give you a piece for free. So, don' that make it all OK?

10 posted on 02/10/2010 4:00:50 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: OldDeckHand

Good point about the UCI and you may be right that it was intentional.


11 posted on 02/10/2010 4:02:12 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Suddenly he gets balls?
Now that Murtha is gone, Jim Webb becomes my least favorite EX-Marine.


12 posted on 02/10/2010 4:02:16 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You don't have to be ignorant to be a Democrat...but if you are...so what?)
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To: jazusamo

Nelson is trying his suck up project to save his butt in the next election. Nelson has exposed himself to be a Benedict Arnold in which he was willing to destroy America for a few scraps from the socialist’s table. Never trust a man whose virtue can be so easily bought.


13 posted on 02/10/2010 4:03:30 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: colorado tanker

Good comparison. After Ben got what he wanted and the backlash hit he couldn’t start the denials fast enough, and he wasn’t convincing.


14 posted on 02/10/2010 4:05:16 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

ALert: DEAD SENATOR walking!!!


15 posted on 02/10/2010 4:05:51 PM PST by princess leah (1)
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To: jazusamo
Nelson (Neb.) signed onto legislation offered by Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Jim Webb (D-Va.)

Nelson buddy, your not enhancing your so called "conservative" street cred by hanging your hat on this bunch. Desperate, pathetic and typical.

16 posted on 02/10/2010 4:07:28 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (The Obama beat down of America continues)
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To: jazusamo

Pakistan jihadists have taken an American hostage and demanded that the woman terrorist convicted in NYC this week be freed or they will kill the American.

This current occupant in the White House has put America in great jeopardy with his idiotic mindset.


17 posted on 02/10/2010 4:07:35 PM PST by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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To: jazusamo

The Chicago way Ben is when you’re bought, you stay bought. I guess its OK though since the bill didn’t actually pass.


18 posted on 02/10/2010 4:08:37 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: All
Shoot!... Now what DO I DO?????...

OK, ok... watch me dance people ".. a little step to the left... to the right... a little more to the right... hmmm... this is a nice place... love the right!"

HOW DO YOU DARE... CALLING ME A WEASEL..?

19 posted on 02/10/2010 4:10:06 PM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church (...Actually I'm hearing MORE from RCC now! ....) ** DEAFENING **)
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To: Don Corleone

With the Chicago thugs around their boss in the WH Ben should probably watch his back after this.


20 posted on 02/10/2010 4:12:45 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson would sign up to shovel walks if he thought it would save his seat! ;-)


21 posted on 02/10/2010 4:13:09 PM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: jazusamo
he wasn’t convincing

Ah, no. He sure hasn't looked convincing to me.

Any Cornhuskers out there? How's Ben's new shtick playing?

22 posted on 02/10/2010 4:15:35 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: 2010Freeper

I think he realizes that Reid and BO made a complete fool out of him.


23 posted on 02/10/2010 4:16:31 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Past Your Eyes

If he thinks supporting this bill will make us forget, he’s in for a big surprise from Virginians.

We will never forget Jim Webb’s vote for Obamacare. Never!!!


24 posted on 02/10/2010 4:16:59 PM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: jazusamo

“”Mayor Bloomberg was right that New York City should not have to bare the burden of this unfunded mandate from the federal government, but neither should American taxpayers,””

They shouldn’t have to bear that burden either.


25 posted on 02/10/2010 4:20:55 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: jazusamo
Dear Senator Toast

Like you cannot un-fry and egg,

you cannot un-toast a Senator.

Enjoy your new career.

26 posted on 02/10/2010 4:23:13 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: tirednvirginia

I find Senator Webb to be a barf inducing arrogant SOB plick. Despicable almost to the same degree as Murtha.


27 posted on 02/10/2010 4:44:41 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You don't have to be ignorant to be a Democrat...but if you are...so what?)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Even with a whole team of us, we cops sometimes miss one. There are so dang many of them these days. LMAO.


28 posted on 02/10/2010 4:46:08 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You don't have to be ignorant to be a Democrat...but if you are...so what?)
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To: colorado tanker

See this Nebraskan’s reply #16


29 posted on 02/10/2010 5:02:26 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (The Obama beat down of America continues)
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To: hatfieldmccoy
Thanks!

To be fair, almost all on this forum would agree with that bill to require all 9-11 suspects be tried by commission rather than by the courts.

The interesting thing is that the bill was offered by McCain, Graham and Webb, who are all trying to reestablish conservative credentials as they desperately run ahead of the tsunami they see coming at them, as is Ben. I don't think they're running fast enough, nor are they convincing.

30 posted on 02/10/2010 5:19:40 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

This Cornhusker did not vote for him to begin with , so I don’t count.


31 posted on 02/10/2010 5:42:01 PM PST by handmade
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To: colorado tanker

This Cornhusker did not vote for him to begin with , so I don’t count.


32 posted on 02/10/2010 5:45:15 PM PST by handmade
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To: handmade
LOL! I wouldn't have voted for him, either. I long ago learned party trumps person. When you elect a Ben to the Senate you are voting for the PelosiReid health care and climate bills and Obama’s Supreme Court nominees and the whole program. Oh, he may vote against them on some token measure every now and then, but vote for him and you vote for the Democrat agenda.
33 posted on 02/10/2010 5:49:11 PM PST by colorado tanker
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