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Store or Starve: A beginnerís guide to food storage
nationalexpositor.com ^ | 1/21/10 | Ron Shirtz

Posted on 02/10/2010 7:29:27 PM PST by Kartographer

I want people to store food not only for their sake, but for mine as well. I don’t want to decide which of my kids have to go hungry when you and your unprepared kin come knocking on my door. Contrary to progressive-collectivist thinking, every individual who takes care of themselves and their families benefits society by not becoming a burden. So take responsibility now and start today. Don’t expect the Feds to come by to hand you your ration of government-rationed cheese. You could be in for a long wait. Wait too long, and you may end up with a green-stained mouth from eating grass, like the poor Irish during the potato famine in the mid 1800’s. Or seriously reevaluate your aversion to cannibalism. Compared to those desperate methods, dumpster diving comes off as luxury cuisine.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: cannedgoods; canning; food; foodstorage; groceries; grocery; lping; preparedness; preppers; preps; survival; survivalism; survivalists
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I posted this about a month ago but like the author I too want to see people start taking this seriously, though I am sure I will get a number of 'OH NOES' replies. Things are dark and getting darker so you need to decide if you plan to take care of yourself and your family or stand in line an wait for some 'guberment' stooge to decide if you eat and how much.

“In the house of the wise are stores of choice food and oil, but the foolish man devours all he has.”
Proverbs 21:20

“Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest"
Proverbs 6:6-8

"A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
Proverbs 27:12
1 posted on 02/10/2010 7:29:27 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: metmom; bamahead; AuntB

Here’s another thread on the same level as the last one.


2 posted on 02/10/2010 7:30:40 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: Kartographer

pflr


3 posted on 02/10/2010 7:33:31 PM PST by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: Kartographer

Oh Noes!! ;-)

Seriously, good information, thanks for posting it.

FRegards,
SZ


4 posted on 02/10/2010 7:36:55 PM PST by SZonian (I see people who claim they are victims of "hatred" and say we are "irrelevant".)
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To: Kartographer

So the Mormons are into survival ism?


5 posted on 02/10/2010 7:37:01 PM PST by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Kartographer

ping for later.


6 posted on 02/10/2010 7:37:40 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Kartographer

We’ve been discussing food storage in my house. This is a good way to start. Thanks.

If nothing else, if the inflation begins that some people think, food is a good investment.


7 posted on 02/10/2010 7:38:07 PM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Kartographer

I’m not worried. I got six cats. They’ll tide me over for a month.


8 posted on 02/10/2010 7:38:28 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("My...health care plan is a Bolshevik plot... which will destroy America." - Barack Obama)
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To: Kartographer

Ping for later


9 posted on 02/10/2010 7:38:40 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Kartographer

when you can goods, you might want to think about melting wax to seal the lid to the jar, basically ensuring no oxygen gets to the foodstuff. imho.


10 posted on 02/10/2010 7:38:54 PM PST by robomatik (III %)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

I love cats, but I can’t eat a whole one.


11 posted on 02/10/2010 7:39:10 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
"I’m not worried. I got six cats. They’ll tide me over for a month."

have you seen the movie, "the book of eli?"

12 posted on 02/10/2010 7:39:45 PM PST by robomatik (III %)
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To: Kartographer

Psalm 144:1

“Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight”


13 posted on 02/10/2010 7:40:10 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Political Correctness Will Get Us All Killed)
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To: Kartographer
“In the house of the wise are stores of choice food and oil, but the foolish man devours all he has.”
Proverbs 21:20

“Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest"
Proverbs 6:6-8

"A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
Proverbs 27:12

Great Quotes!

14 posted on 02/10/2010 7:40:41 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Kartographer

Key Sign....when city/state/fed employees start getting laid off in massive numbers.....you’ll know it’s too late.


15 posted on 02/10/2010 7:40:43 PM PST by onona (dbada)
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To: I still care

A small greenhouse is in our plan for the next five years.
We’re looking at “starter plants” as our target.


16 posted on 02/10/2010 7:41:55 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: 70times7
I love cats, but I can’t eat a whole one.

That's why you make jerky.
17 posted on 02/10/2010 7:45:59 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("My...health care plan is a Bolshevik plot... which will destroy America." - Barack Obama)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You may want to move that up to next 5 weeks.


18 posted on 02/10/2010 7:46:23 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Kartographer

Thanks. Started seriously putting food back last fall....Have always kept the freezer full after gardening in the summer and done some canning and drying.


19 posted on 02/10/2010 7:47:59 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: SatinDoll

Wife and I have had several false starts.


20 posted on 02/10/2010 7:49:02 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Kartographer

I became interested in canning a little over a year ago. I love to cook, and I love to eat good food. Canning is so rewarding in many aspects. One, is the fact that you can make a huge stock pot of soup, chili, stew, or anything... and eat for months to come on your pantry supplies. I also love to share my food with friends. It makes me very happy to be able to cook something delicious and share it! When you can, the food is good for virtually a million years. Unlike freezing, where you are totally dependent on the freezer.


21 posted on 02/10/2010 7:49:35 PM PST by hot4plasma
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To: Kartographer; All

i was trying to ping dianafromwisconsin, but am having trouble with FR doing so. help anyone?


22 posted on 02/10/2010 7:50:27 PM PST by robomatik (III %)
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To: onona
Key Sign....when city/state/fed employees start getting laid off in massive numbers.....you’ll know it’s too late.

maybe not too late, but definitely high time...

23 posted on 02/10/2010 7:50:30 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Clintonfatigued

You raise good points, but I just can’t see the value of storing that much for that long.

While I wouldn’t want to be just another person standing at the stadium during Katrina, totally dependent upon others, as a Catholic I would shortly be feeding all the kids and elderly I saw and would be out of food - trusting in God and in selflessness accepting my own and my own family’s starvation if He chooses such. Who needs to live forever, it’s heaven we’re after afterall. Faith of a child.

Save enough to not be a short term burden, but you’d be helping the neighbors soon anyway and no ones a supermarket.

That’s not to insult the faith of anyone saving food for 20-30 years and larger volumes, I just see the side that if we’re all “screwed” together, we’re going to take control of the bad situation sooner, instead of ducking down to the basement and turning more inward.


24 posted on 02/10/2010 7:51:01 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Kartographer

Have you read “One Second After” yet?


25 posted on 02/10/2010 7:51:46 PM PST by Painesright
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To: Painesright

Have you read “One Second After” yet?
________________

About the Rapture?


26 posted on 02/10/2010 7:57:36 PM PST by unkus
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To: Kartographer
"Surprise" starvation is for liberals.

Believe it.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

27 posted on 02/10/2010 7:58:30 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: unkus

One second after an EMP attack...


28 posted on 02/10/2010 7:58:46 PM PST by Painesright
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To: Painesright

Finished it two weeks ago. One reason I am building up for 6 months to 18 months. To be honest I am not sure I would want to live in a world that has under gone chaos for more than two growing seasons.


29 posted on 02/10/2010 7:58:54 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thanks. Bookmarked


30 posted on 02/10/2010 8:01:29 PM PST by raybbr
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To: robomatik

I tried to ping her for you but you have her name spelled not quite right.Which is prolly why you’re having dramas pinging her.


31 posted on 02/10/2010 8:04:20 PM PST by mitch5501 (Yeah,but is it shatterproof?)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

I have some of the same doubts you have, my fear is a neighbor showing up at the door with a staving child, so I do what the bible proscribes and try to put away an extra ten percent as a tithe. But as the head of my household my first duty after that to God is to my family. I can only be so responsible to others and will not place my family in danger to help the careless and the thoughless.


32 posted on 02/10/2010 8:05:07 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

“In the house of the wise are stores of choice food and oil, but the foolish man devours all he has.”
Proverbs 21:20

“Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest”
Proverbs 6:6-8

“A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.”
Proverbs 27:12


33 posted on 02/10/2010 8:05:44 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Big time.


34 posted on 02/10/2010 8:05:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Painesright

On the subject of EMP (I know about that)

Here is an article that references it for tomorrow.

WHAT SHOULD WE EXPECT ON FEB 11TH FROM ISLAMIC IRAN http://bit.ly/cSrgUk Alan Peter’s thoughts on what to expect tomorrow.


35 posted on 02/10/2010 8:05:55 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
I’m not worried. I got six cats. They’ll tide me over for a month.

Right now they are saying the same thing about you.

36 posted on 02/10/2010 8:05:58 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Special SOTU tagline: YOU LIE!)
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To: I still care

Any useful commodities will become good investments.


37 posted on 02/10/2010 8:06:25 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: robomatik; Diana in Wisconsin
Like, *PING*, Diana.

Cheers!

38 posted on 02/10/2010 8:07:08 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: mitch5501

no drama here. i know she has underscores in her FReephandle, but i just have forgotten how it is spelled. anyway, this thread would probably be of interest to her ping list.


39 posted on 02/10/2010 8:07:15 PM PST by robomatik (III %)
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To: robomatik

good movie- ugly cat


40 posted on 02/10/2010 8:07:57 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: Kartographer

So, (and this is a very honest question that my spouse and I have discussed multiple times since reading it)... you don’t think that just like they now take 50% or more of the Earner’s income in taxes, they won’t come and “appropriate” your food when “the collective” is going hungry? Or, the mobs won’t come and take your food when they are hungry?

You read it and you actually think you can fight off the fed gov’t or hundreds of hungry mob members who have been taught to believe that those who have things are bad people?

Again, honest question.


41 posted on 02/10/2010 8:08:11 PM PST by Painesright
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To: Kartographer

btt


42 posted on 02/10/2010 8:10:58 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER ( EPA will rule your life)
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To: Painesright

lookin at buying that...any good?

always wondered if it would work to just replace solenoids and such in an older car...like War of the Worlds. Why would an EMP fry a solenoid in a car that’s not running, but
do nothing to a solenoid on the shelf in the garage?


43 posted on 02/10/2010 8:11:48 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

Well, what you do is set aside some smaller care packets, have them all made up and ready to give away. Make it clear if you help someone out it’s a one time deal, and point them in the direction of the closest pantry or government help. You can’t give away your core foodstuffs, you are not obligated to give away all your food you’ve set aside to be responsible and not a burden on others. You have responsibilities - the others that depend on you, even if they are your animals. The longer you can live the longer you can still help out others or bug out to a place you can live to be useful. You don’t store up stuff so that strangers can come and kill you and reap the benefits of your hard work and planning. Then you may as well not even be doing it at all.


44 posted on 02/10/2010 8:13:39 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
imagine hollyweird releasing a movie in 2010, in which the plot line can be summarized as such, "God speaks to a man (eli) and tells him to protect the book (the Bible) and "head west," and that "He" will protect him, so that the word of God will be printed for the betterment of mankind. of course, the movie is set in a post-apocalyptic mad max type environment. (coming soon for all of us, i think).

hollyweird is actually able to produce something decent every now and then.

45 posted on 02/10/2010 8:14:24 PM PST by robomatik (III %)
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To: lula

ping


46 posted on 02/10/2010 8:17:58 PM PST by plsjr (<>< ... http://NewSpring.cc/webservice - check it out!)
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To: Kartographer

Lets talk about canning..if you are looking to pressure can
you cannot use a glass top stove..nor an outside propane barbeque cooker with a side burner...I am working on changing out my glass top for an electric stove...I may have to look in the dump for it..preferably a gas top stove. Unfortunately for me..I don’t have the gas top option. Will be hitting the farmers market this spring to find good canning stuff.


47 posted on 02/10/2010 8:20:01 PM PST by hope
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To: hot4plasma; Kartographer; Clintonfatigued; hinckley buzzard; If You Want It Fixed - Fix It; ...

Great ongoing self-sufficiency, food handling thread .. full of tips, info and resources:

###

Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition [Survival Today - an On going Thread #3]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2299939/posts

Thanks, Granny!


48 posted on 02/10/2010 8:27:39 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Great question on the solenoid... I don’t know. Sounds like you know much more about those than I do. Much older cars are all that is left after EMP attack in One Second After.

The book is good for showing just how fast society breaks down and what all will be affected... dialogue sucks... just my personal opinion... but glad I read it.


49 posted on 02/10/2010 8:30:08 PM PST by Painesright
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To: Bodleian_Girl
"So the Mormons are into survival ism?"

it's an unwritten rule in the mormon church that all should have a year's supply of food on hand.

how could anyone argue with that?

50 posted on 02/10/2010 8:31:51 PM PST by robomatik (III %)
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