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From engagement to confrontation with Iran
BBC News ^ | February 11, 2010 | Barbara Plett

Posted on 02/10/2010 7:31:33 PM PST by myknowledge

Statements out of Washington and other Western capitals suggest a shift from engagement to confrontation with Iran over its nuclear programme.

"What we are going to be working on over the next several weeks is developing a significant regime of sanctions that will indicate to them how isolated they are from the international community as a whole," President Barack Obama told journalists earlier this week.

The president sounded not unlike his predecessor George W Bush, who worked for years to contain Iran, a sign that Mr Obama's policy to engage with the Islamic Republic has failed.

The question now is whether a new round of sanctions would be any more successful than those imposed under Mr Bush's watch.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: confrontation; iran; irannukes; irantweets; nukeprogram
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To: myknowledge
"What we are going to be working on over the next several weeks is developing a significant regime of sanctions that will indicate to them how isolated they are from the international community as a whole,"

Wow, that's new, that's historic, that's...wait...been tried before, with limited success. Really obama? You think they don't already feel isolated, yet continue to calculate the potential payoff is worth it?

...obama's policy to engage with the Islamic Republic has failed.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! No kidding obama's policy has failed. Why should his Iranian policy be any different than any other one? Every policy of obama's has failed, with the possible exception of his attempts to destroy America. Those are moving forward.

The question now is whether a new round of sanctions would be any more successful than those imposed under Mr Bush's watch.

That's former President Bush please. The answer to that question is undoubtedly a resounding no. The sanctions have only (probably) slowed Iran's progress. Since obama's naive policy has failed, he is falling back on a policy that has been demonstrated to be only marginally effective. With obama the inept, ill-prepared one running the show, it will no doubt be less effective...

21 posted on 02/10/2010 8:10:05 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Doesn’t matter much really, at this point. Tonight is the night.


22 posted on 02/10/2010 8:11:33 PM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: MarMema

ali_vigh: #iranelection 20 min left till 8Am when the protest starts
half a minute ago from web

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Yup,,,don’t wanna miss this,,,

Ain’t no tellin’ what nutjob is gunna pull...


23 posted on 02/10/2010 8:16:12 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: MarMema

It is now 7:46 am in Tehran.


24 posted on 02/10/2010 8:16:47 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: rdl6989
An hour ago I was seeing a tweet every now and then, and now there are 50 or so every few minutes.

They are saying there is a BIG VID fence around the square. Got any ideas what a VID fence is?

25 posted on 02/10/2010 8:19:17 PM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: rdl6989

07:45 in Tehran. People already making their way towards Azadi monument


26 posted on 02/10/2010 8:22:51 PM PST by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; rdl6989

should we do a live thread or just stay here?


27 posted on 02/10/2010 8:23:06 PM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: MarMema

I found nothing about vid fence on Google, Yahoo, or Goodsearch. As for live thread or stay here I’m fine either way.


28 posted on 02/10/2010 8:24:27 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: myknowledge
The ONLY sanctions that will work are an air and naval blockade and embargo of all energy products...particularly oil.

The result would certainly be war...but at least it would be on our terms and they would fire the first shot.

Yeah, we'd have to warn off a few Chinese, NK and Russian ships...but NO WAY would they challenge a US Navy at sea and ready to shoot. And yes, we may take a couple of hits from Iranian shore-based batteries but they could be fairly quickly suppressed.

It would be supremely important to notify Iran and any potential allies that if they fire on a US Capital ship...we would take it as an act of unlimited war.

THAT's what Reagan would do:)

29 posted on 02/10/2010 8:25:23 PM PST by Mariner
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To: MarMema

should we do a live thread or just stay here?
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That’s up to you,,,

As for that fence,,,

Mite be a heavy steel fence to keep people out of that area...


30 posted on 02/10/2010 8:27:11 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
The Junta's Game Plan
31 posted on 02/10/2010 8:30:22 PM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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U.S.-linked journalist arrested in Iran
TEHRAN, Feb. 10 (UPI) — An Iranian minister said Wednesday security forces had arrested eight people, one of them a journalist, tied to U.S.-funded Radio Free Europe’s Persian arm.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/02/10/US-linked-journalist-arrested-in-Iran/UPI-83011265858044/


32 posted on 02/10/2010 8:30:22 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: All

http://ow.ly/16apG

Youtube of the VIDEO fence. Whatever that is.


33 posted on 02/10/2010 8:41:23 PM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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TANKS,ya’ll,,,
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monique2824: RT @ThinkIran Tehran 30 Minutes Ago Presense of Security Forces On Their Feet Clearly Outside Hospital Khomeini #Iran #IranElection
half a minute ago from web

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I guess the tear gas will start soon...


34 posted on 02/10/2010 8:46:02 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: MarMema

http://homylafayette.blogspot.com/

This live blog will begin at 10 AM Tehran time - 6:30 AM GMT
The protesters plan to infiltrate the official routes of today’s marches which will begin at 9:30 AM at seven locations in Tehran and move towards Azadi Square:

View Tehran - Official routes for revolution anniversary - 9:30 AM, Thursday, 11

Live blogging also here -

http://www.dailyniteowl.com/wordpress/


35 posted on 02/10/2010 8:46:03 PM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: MarMema

IAY4Iran: RT @sina_21: first news from Tehran: all routes closed to Azadi SQ #iran #iranelection #22bahman
half a minute ago from web


36 posted on 02/10/2010 8:51:51 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Carl LaFong
“Where’s this “punch” that will ‘stun the west. that I’ve been hearing so much about?”

It's still early in the day, even in Iran, on the East coast of the US, it won't be Feb. 11, for about 5 more minutes.

37 posted on 02/10/2010 8:55:12 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Cars Driving By Security Forces People In Cars Yelling Marg Bar Dictator! & Allah Akbar!


38 posted on 02/10/2010 8:55:28 PM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: All
Listening to epersianradio.com

Not in english of course.

39 posted on 02/10/2010 8:58:27 PM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: MarMema

jomhirani: PLS send NOW http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=333148560099&id=171288838053&ref=nf Canada embassy open doors 2 injured #iranelection
less than 20 seconds ago from web


40 posted on 02/10/2010 9:01:52 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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