Posted on 02/11/2010 9:44:13 AM PST by Maelstorm
Thank You Sir :)
I have no idea how a poll in 07 can be against DADT, but then a poll 2 years later can favor it and now less than a year later from that one poll we’re being told there’s overwhelming sentiment against DADT. I don’t trust the liberal media.
It depends whether the other person is married, and if their spouse catches you. :-)
Americans also believe by a 66 to 31 percent margin that it is discriminatory to prevent openly gay men and women to serve.
However, by a 54 to 38 percent margin, those surveyed also believe that gays serving in the military should limit displaying their sexual orientation on the job.
If 66% believe it's discriminatory to prevent openly gay persons from serving then why isn't there the same 66% that say gays should be allowed to serve openly?
And how can a gay serve openly if they have to hide their orientation on the job? This poll makes no sense.
That's an old poll. The latest one conducted between 11-30 Nov '09 has opposition dropping to 51%.
Changing attitudes in the military
The Military Times poll is not scientific; the newspaper e-mailed invitations to 45,000 subscribers and randomly inserted fliers in about 40,000 newsstand copies of the paper asking for readers to respond. About 8,200 readers, including National Guard, Reserve, and other readers, responded to the survey. Of those, the paper gleaned responses from about 3,000 active-duty military readers.
This is from the Christian Science Monitor. I can't find on-line the actual Military Times poll results available without a magazine subscription but I've read the latest issue:
And the military polls should be the only ones that count.
Consider the source, Quinnipiac Univ., another leftist polling source.
Do you know how homos have sex? There's nothing healthy or normal about that.
Many of these people believe in protecting the unborn, support the free market and believe in the importance of preserving our freedom against foreign threats
Most homos are overwhelmingly pro-choice and vote Democrat, that nullifies any claim that they desire to preserve our freedom from foreign threats.
Why shouldn'tt they be able to openly serve in the military? Homosexuals are just like any other group, some are bad, but many are good. Why shouldnt we give them a fair chance like anyone else?
The majority of Americans still find homosexuality abhorrent, as do the majority of our military, homos are allowed to serve, they just can't flaunt their abhorrent lifestyle in the face of the majority of people who find it repulsive. And they shouldn't because God says it is an abomination.
Homos are not just like heteros because they ALL suffer from a mental disorder, anyone that thinks such a lifestyle is normal can't possibly have good judgment in other areas of life also. They are a danger and menace to the moral fabric of any decent and God-fearing society.
This poll makes no sense.
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I came to the same conclusion, it would be interesting to see how the questions were asked.
What the hell does THAT mean? No cross-dressing? Lipstick? Plucked eyebrows? Winking at you? Staring at your butt or crotch in the gym, restrooms, showers, barracks?
It's all in the questioning and the assumptions held by the respondents - something that can be controlled by the pollsters.
Many of those polled are likely to be made to assume that nothing would change with the endorsement of sodomy in the military; that those homosexuals now serving will just continue to serve, only not any longer as afraid of their sexuality being found out. This static, status quo-as-usual assumption is the deadly fallacy. If or when DADT is rescinded, the goal post WILL be moved, as it always is with the homo-nazis, not just a few yards, but more than likely to another football field altogether.
If you doubt this, ask yourself how the SCOTUS Lawrence ruling making sodomy laws invalid nationwide could be so powerfully construed by sodomite activists and their powerful liberal legal allies to mandate the "right" of activist homosexuals to redefine marriage, family, society?
Theres more to relationships than sex and I try not to preoccupy myself trying to visualize gay sex. However, there is nothing unhealthy about the kind of sex I presume you are talking about so long as both partners are without disease (same thing goes for heterosexual sex). Im not sure what you mean by the term normal. Other than being a dogmatic outlook, why should we object to gay sex as abnormal?
Most homos[exuals] are overwhelmingly pro-choice and vote Democrat, that nullifies any claim that they desire to preserve our freedom from foreign threats.
Not all gay people are the same. Have you ever been around Republican offices extensively in DC? Nearly every Republican office has at least one gay Republican working for the party or its supporters. But lets suppose there are also many homosexuals among the left. There are a great many heterosexuals among that group too. There is no necessary correlation between sexuality and political thinking. There are many gays who support freedom. But, even for the others who straddle a different political fence. They are still people too. And I count many modern day American liberals among my friends. They may be misguided, but they are still good people.
The majority of Americans still find homosexuality abhorrent, as do the majority of our military, homos[sexuals] are allowed to serve, they just can't flaunt their abhorrent lifestyle in the face of the majority of people who find it repulsive. And they shouldn't because God says it is an abomination.
The majority of voters voted for Barack Obama, that doesnt make voting for Barack Obama a wise decision. You are correct that gays are allowed to serve in the military. Further, you are correct to suggest they shouldnt flaunt their sexuality, nor should heterosexuals. Persons in the military should conduct themselves as professionals. But, that doesnt mean people should hide their orientations. Heterosexuals arent flaunting their sexuality when they talk about their partner in regular conversation, homosexuals should be able to do the same.
Homos[exuals] are not just like heteros because they ALL suffer from a mental disorder, anyone that thinks such a lifestyle is normal can't possibly have good judgment in other areas of life also. They are a danger and menace to the moral fabric of any decent and God-fearing society.
Most of this is just plain assertion without any kind of reasoning to substantiate. Why does the nature of ones relationship influence how they think about tax and spending? As for the idea that homosexuality is in contradiction to the dictates of God, I cant say I know much on that point. But, if one believes in such a doctrine they are certainly free to abstain from homosexuality. However, why should one necessarily subscribe to such doctrine? As Thomas Jefferson wisely opined: But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
by its very definition homosexuality is ONLY about sex and only about recreational sex.
Merriam-Webster definitions:
Homosexuality:
“of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex”
Heterosexuality:
“of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward the opposite sex”
In both cases sexual desire is the base component of the relationship. However, there is nothing to suggest that either orientation is, by definition, antagonistic to long term monogamous relationships. There are nothing about the definitions to suggest mere recreational sexual encounters.
Unfortunately,rampant mental and moral illness in Washington is in favor of mental and moral illness in the military.
Look, FR is a pro-God, pro-Life, pro-family, pro-Liberty conservative site. The homosexual agenda is not welcome here. If you’re going to defend the perverted anti-God, anti-family, anti-conservative, anti-free speech, anti-free religion, anti-constitution homosexual agenda then we can just go ahead and close your account today.
The military is here to defend the nation. They blow things up and kill people defending our freedom and they risk their lives and they and their families make huge sacrifices while doing so. They don’t need this homo shit. The military is not the place for social experimentation, social engineering or social justice.
NO HOMOS IN THE MILITARY!! PERIOD!! GOT IT??
And if not, take a fricken hike already!!
Our God-given unalienable rights to freedom of speech, freedom of association and freedom of religion are not negotiable, not up for sale and are not going to be taken away by HOMOSEXUAL agenda pushers!!
The Military here understand the attack but to get a lecture on the drill pad from the top only helps us say it once and for all!
Anybody looking at me sexually in the showers at basic will get your face beat. I believe in multiply, you don’t. You want to screw my arse, I will kill you.
bttt
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