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Obama Espoused Radical Views in College
NewsMax ^ | Monday, 08 Feb 2010 09:42 PM | Ronald Kessler

Posted on 02/11/2010 2:19:26 PM PST by TBP

Dr. John C. Drew, a grant writing consultant in Laguna Niguel, Calif., tells Newsmax he met Obama in 1980 when Obama was a sophomore at Occidental College in Los Angeles. Drew had just graduated from Occidental and was attending graduate school at Cornell University.

Drew’s then girlfriend, Caroline Boss—now Grauman-Boss—knew Obama because she shared classes with him at Occidental.

During Christmas break, Drew says he was at Grauman-Boss’ home in Palo Alto when Obama came over with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, his roommate from Pakistan.

“He was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth,” says Drew, who says he himself was then a Marxist.

“The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others,” Drew says. “That this was the secret of their wealth, that they weren’t paying others enough for their work, and they were using and taking advantage of other people. He was convinced that a revolution would take place, and it would be a good thing.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; certifigate; communist; kessler; marxist; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamarecord; radicalleft
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The real meaning of "remaking America."
1 posted on 02/11/2010 2:19:26 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

I’m shocked, shocked!


2 posted on 02/11/2010 2:21:43 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: TBP

yawn...

Now, how about his Occidental (or ANY school) transcripts?


3 posted on 02/11/2010 2:23:13 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Freepmail me to get on the Bourbon ping list.)
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To: TBP
“The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others,” Drew says. “That this was the secret of their wealth, that they weren’t paying others enough for their work, and they were using and taking advantage of other people.

I have to wonder if Bill Ayers feels he was rewarded adequately for writing Obama's autobiographies, or if he was exploited?

4 posted on 02/11/2010 2:23:35 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: TBP

This isn’t news.


5 posted on 02/11/2010 2:23:59 PM PST by FTJM
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To: TBP

Too bad Obama never grew up to have an epiphany and realize that Marxism is rubbish.


6 posted on 02/11/2010 2:24:48 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: TBP

“That this was the secret of their wealth, that they weren’t paying others enough for their work”

Michelle Obama’s salry was $300,000 to do hospital PR work in Chicago. I wonder if Obama thought she was being exploited.


7 posted on 02/11/2010 2:26:46 PM PST by Starboard
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To: FTJM

“This isn’t news.”

At least it’s an interview with someone who knew him back then!


8 posted on 02/11/2010 2:27:06 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: The Great RJ

It might be a good idea for Obama to read Thomas Sowell’s book Marxism. Maybe it’s not too late for him to learn something other than all that crap he’s imbibed over the years.


9 posted on 02/11/2010 2:27:54 PM PST by donaldo
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

...or how about a long form birth certificate? Any SAT scores available? College transcripts? Does anybody in the MSM care about this fake’s background? How did he get into Columbia and Harvard Law? Affirmative action, anyone?

There’s lots we don’t know about The Messiah...like what drugs did he take when living in New York City? Did he sell drugs? Where did his money come from during his student days?

Is anybody in the media interested in the life of the man who is currently the POTUS...and draining this country’s last resources? Who is he?


10 posted on 02/11/2010 2:28:02 PM PST by kjo
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To: TBP

Dr. John C. Drew, kiss your career goodbye. The DNC attack goons are already researching your entire life, plotting how to take you down.


11 posted on 02/11/2010 2:28:50 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: TBP

“Obama Espoused Radical Views in College”

No! Really??? I’m shocked.


12 posted on 02/11/2010 2:28:52 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: TBP

I call BS to this story. I find it interesting that as the BC issue takes hold and Obamafascist’s college transcripts are to be found we have this story. Reminds me of his thrid grade picture that the person sad he only recently recieved from Obama.


13 posted on 02/11/2010 2:31:40 PM PST by stockpirate (Hey Beck, Thomas Jefferson was a birther!)
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To: TBP

Where was this guy a year and a half ago?


14 posted on 02/11/2010 2:31:46 PM PST by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: donaldo
I told another guy on another thread — you presume too much. You've assumed our President wants to learn. By now you should be fully aware our President isn't interested in anything America is selling. He wants a “do-over” HIS (or Soros) way. It's hard to face, but I think you come to the point where, cute as he is, adorable as his family is, you have to say to yourself, “Self, the guy just isn't for you.”
15 posted on 02/11/2010 2:32:11 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: kjo
"...or how about a long form birth certificate? Any SAT scores available? College transcripts? Does anybody in the MSM care about this fake’s background? How did he get into Columbia and Harvard Law? Affirmative action, anyone? "

We just need to find out if he was a foreign exchange student, and that will open the door to the rest of the quest for this information. I've read where one of his "classmates" said he lived in the "exchange students" dorm in college, but I haven't heard any more about it.
16 posted on 02/11/2010 2:33:21 PM PST by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: TBP

“In a similar vein, when he discussed politics with him in 1980, Drew says that in Obama’s view, “America was definitely the enemy, and American elites were the enemy, and whatever America was doing was definitely wrong and bad. He thought that perhaps the Soviet Union was misunderstood, and it was doing a better job for its people than most people realized.”

Gee what a surprise.


17 posted on 02/11/2010 2:34:07 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: TBP

From the campaign, and from CBS:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/02/opinion/main4145761.shtml

“Obama’s connections to the radical-left politics espoused by Pfleger and Wright are broad and deep. The real reason Obama bound himself to Wright and Pfleger in the first place is that he largely approved of their political-theological outlooks.”

The rest of the article is worth a read.


18 posted on 02/11/2010 2:34:31 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

And Drew didn’t think this information was important enough to tell Americans about BEFORE the election?


19 posted on 02/11/2010 2:35:12 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: TBP

This story can’t be true. According to Reverand Manning, Obama was in Afghanistan at this time and in training with Al Qaeda.

(On the other hand, this sounds like every conversation I had in 1994).


20 posted on 02/11/2010 2:36:46 PM PST by MrRobertPlant2009
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To: TBP

More from the article:

Referring to Obama’s quote from “Dreams from My Father” that he associated with Marxist professors, Drew says, “What he’s not saying is that he was in 100 percent total agreement with those Marxist professors. When you understand that, Obama’s later associations and policies make more sense, including why he was taken in by Rev. Wright’s ideology.”

In 1983 and 1984, Drew says he came to realize that his own Marxist views were rubbish. He now considers himself a conservative.

In contrast, Drew says, Obama has never revealed how his political thinking evolved and “what were the logical steps he took to get out of his Marxist world view.”


21 posted on 02/11/2010 2:36:49 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: FTJM

“This isn’t news.”

No, it’s ignored news.

Most Americans can’t even utter “socialist”, let alone the term that truly fits him: communist.


22 posted on 02/11/2010 2:39:57 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: TBP

When Obama said he wanted to “Fundamentally Transform America”, I took him seriously because I knew he meant what he said. That’s why I did not vote for him.


23 posted on 02/11/2010 2:43:50 PM PST by Wee-Weed Up
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To: TBP

Obama has never revealed how his political thinking evolved and “what were the logical steps he took to get out of his Marxist world view.”

He never outgrew his Marxist world view,
his continued obsession with class warfare
and wealth redistribution show that.


24 posted on 02/11/2010 2:45:05 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: TBP
“The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others,” Drew says. “That this was the secret of their wealth, that they weren’t paying others enough for their work

Sounds like a crude assertion of Marxian economics, based on the so-called labor theory of value.

As Dr. Sowell has observed, there is not a significant proposition of Marxian economics that has survived and been accepted into mainstream modern economic understanding, whether by liberal or conservative economists.

What we have is worse than a president who is ignorant of economics; we have a president who arrogantly thinks he has a penetrating insight into economics based on a fundamentally flawed theory.

25 posted on 02/11/2010 2:45:12 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

True, what I mean to say is that this isn’t a surprise given his involvement with the SDS then.


26 posted on 02/11/2010 2:45:30 PM PST by FTJM
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To: TBP
So, anybody able to regale us with -14bama's views at Columbia?

...crickets chirping...

27 posted on 02/11/2010 2:45:45 PM PST by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: Wee-Weed Up

I’m with you on that one.

I will never understand those who consider all change by definition to be an improvement.

In fact, of course, it’s a lot like Darwinian evolution. Mutations are a change. The vast majority of possible mutations are negative. Only a tiny subset of possible changes in an organism, or a society, have a positive net effect.


28 posted on 02/11/2010 2:48:08 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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To: FTJM

Gotcha! I just find it interesting that someone new is speakin’ out.


29 posted on 02/11/2010 2:48:19 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: LucyT

Ping


30 posted on 02/11/2010 2:50:18 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: FTJM
this isn’t a surprise given his involvement with the SDS then.

Obama was involved with the SDS in 1980?

Quite a feat, since the organization disbanded in 1969.

31 posted on 02/11/2010 2:50:29 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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To: tet68

“Look, my wife’s name is in your reception book
right after Barrak Obama...”


32 posted on 02/11/2010 2:52:19 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Sherman Logan

That’s not so. The SDS is still around, in chapter-by-chapter form since the mid 70’s. In 2006 a new national SDS was created.


33 posted on 02/11/2010 2:56:28 PM PST by bvw
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To: TBP

We knew that. It’s obvious that the man in the White House is a full marxist and that he sees everything in terms of “have” and “have not” and is now using the full power of the government to seize money from the haves and give it to the have nots.


34 posted on 02/11/2010 2:59:10 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: bvw

You got any evidence there was a chapter at Obama’s college or that he was part of it?

I am aware the organization was reactivated recently. That doesn’t mean it was in existence in 1980.


35 posted on 02/11/2010 2:59:36 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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To: TBP

Check this out....looks like he never attended Occidental.
http://americangrandjury.org/investigators-declare-obama-never-attended-columbia-university


36 posted on 02/11/2010 2:59:53 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Hopefully, as the Emperor finds himself weakened, more people from his past will come forward and we can tease out some of this man’s well concealed past.


37 posted on 02/11/2010 3:01:26 PM PST by dogcaller
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To: TBP

Sorry..meant Columbia.


38 posted on 02/11/2010 3:02:28 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

He believes that America is the enemy.


39 posted on 02/11/2010 3:03:11 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: dogcaller

Thas what I’m hopin’!


40 posted on 02/11/2010 3:05:28 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: TBP

Ping


41 posted on 02/11/2010 3:13:46 PM PST by TheVitaminPress (as goes the Second Amendment . . . so goes the Constitution.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Obama was involved with the SDS in 1980?

Quite a feat, since the organization disbanded in 1969.

Obama has long been involved with "former" SDS members, and gave his first public speech in college at an event sponsored by an SDS successor organization, the Students for Economic Democracy:

Obama's first public speech was at an Occidental event sponsored by the Students for Economic Democracy, a group affiliated with far left radical Tom Hayden and Hayden's militant group SDS (Students for a Democratic Society.) David Peck, an organizer of the Occidental rally, is now coordinating Americans in Spain for Obama.

In 1969 Hayden's SDS began breaking into groups including a group calling itself Weatherman. The group proclaimed that the time had come to launch a race war on behalf of the Third World and against the United States. The new entity formed a terrorist cult and was given the name Weather Underground. Two of the Weather Underground founders were Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers. The group is most famous for a campaign from 1969 through the middle 1970s of bombings and riots including the bombing of the US Pentagon in 1972.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/obama_and_dohrn_and_ayers.html

42 posted on 02/11/2010 3:17:23 PM PST by FTJM
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0bama Espoused Radical Views in College
NewsMax ^ | Monday, 08 Feb 2010 09:42 PM | Ronald Kessler

"...when 0bama was a sophomore at Occidental College in Los Angeles

0bama came over with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, his roommate from Pakistan. (Is that the guy in the photo that shows them holding hands? And why was 0's private parts showing?) (Just askin'...)

“He (obama)was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth,”

[snip]

"He (0bama) was convinced that a revolution would take place, and it would be a good thing.”

[Thanks, Smokeyblue; good find.]

43 posted on 02/11/2010 3:17:24 PM PST by LucyT
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To: FTJM

It is quite different to say Obama was involved in 1980 with people who used to be part of SDS, and to say he was involved with the SDS itself.

I’m aware of his association with Ayers.


44 posted on 02/11/2010 3:19:54 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Did someone from Newsmax get a hold of Chandoo and not ask about what passport Obama used to visit his home in Pakistan? Or if he remembers Barry actually attending classes at Columbia? Still have yet to see an actual classmate of Barry’s at Columbia.


45 posted on 02/11/2010 3:25:01 PM PST by ccruse456
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To: LucyT

were


46 posted on 02/11/2010 3:25:26 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Sherman Logan

Well, an underground organization tries to stay ‘underground’ doesn’t it?

How exactly did it get reactivated recently? Two high schoolers got a bug up their keisters? Yeah, ri-ight.


47 posted on 02/11/2010 3:25:44 PM PST by bvw
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To: TBP
This is news?
48 posted on 02/11/2010 3:26:02 PM PST by curiosity
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To: kjo

One thing I know for sure is that he wouldn’t meet the requirements to join any little leagues, 4H or boy scouts.


49 posted on 02/11/2010 3:26:36 PM PST by mcshot (Son of Liberty. Palm pilot in use to identify libs.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Care for your split hairs.
50 posted on 02/11/2010 3:29:38 PM PST by bvw
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